How many 14sec contours?

My car began life as a test drive car... You know it was taken out hard from mile one.

Its still got its balls, but it also eats oil

Originally posted by Y2KSVT:

Originally posted by fastcougar:
With manufacturing standards that have been in place in America for the past 10-15 years, there is no such thing as a factory freak. It all comes down to how the engine was broken in

I 2nd that notion. I've never liked the idea of "breaking in" a new car with easy miles. You want it to be a runner? Take that thing out from day 1, and drive it like you stole it.

Mark

Well i didn't get to do that with my car cause it had 35,9xx on it when i got it...but i have drove the sh!t out of it since then!

Originally posted by fastcougar:
With manufacturing standards that have been in place in America for the past 10-15 years, there is no such thing as a factory freak. It all comes down to how the engine was broken in

Disagreement here!

<yep>

I can't for the life of me see how breaking in an engine can make THAT much of a difference. In longevity of the engine yes, but power production, NO.
That is solely a product of mass flow in, and power extracted, or the efficiency of it. Then of course there is weight, atmospheric properties the day it was tested...etc.

Originally posted by Pudmunkie:
My car began life as a test drive car... You know it was taken out hard from mile one.

As did mine. They had one of each of the 4 colors. Mine was the test drive model, and it had 260 miles on it when I picked it up. Since day one, I've given her what she likes.

Mark

Originally posted by Y2KSVT:

Originally posted by Pudmunkie:
My car began life as a test drive car... You know it was taken out hard from mile one.

As did mine. They had one of each of the 4 colors. Mine was the test drive model, and it had 260 miles on it when I picked it up. Since day one, I've given her what she likes.

Mark

Action from the rear?

i'm in the 14's with intake/headers/exhaust/and UDP's

A built trans is a must

Originally posted by warmonger:

Originally posted by fastcougar:
With manufacturing standards that have been in place in America for the past 10-15 years, there is no such thing as a factory freak. It all comes down to how the engine was broken in

Disagreement here! <yep>

I can't for the life of me see how breaking in an engine can make THAT much of a difference. In longevity of the engine yes, but power production, NO.
That is solely a product of mass flow in, and power extracted, or the efficiency of it. Then of course there is weight, atmospheric properties the day it was tested...etc.

I totally agree. I've heard of SHOs pulling 14.5s with just a filter and I've heard of fox body mustangs pull 13s stock. Plus some people just drive like mad men at the track!

Originally posted by giddyup306:

Originally posted by warmonger:

Originally posted by fastcougar:
With manufacturing standards that have been in place in America for the past 10-15 years, there is no such thing as a factory freak. It all comes down to how the engine was broken in

Disagreement here! <yep>

I can't for the life of me see how breaking in an engine can make THAT much of a difference. In longevity of the engine yes, but power production, NO.
That is solely a product of mass flow in, and power extracted, or the efficiency of it. Then of course there is weight, atmospheric properties the day it was tested...etc.

I totally agree. I've heard of SHOs pulling 14.5s with just a filter and I've heard of fox body mustangs pull 13s stock. Plus some people just drive like mad men at the track!

I've also seen mustangs run 15.1s stock.

Originally posted by giddyup306:

Originally posted by warmonger:

Originally posted by fastcougar:
With manufacturing standards that have been in place in America for the past 10-15 years, there is no such thing as a factory freak. It all comes down to how the engine was broken in

Disagreement here! <yep>

I can't for the life of me see how breaking in an engine can make THAT much of a difference. In longevity of the engine yes, but power production, NO.
That is solely a product of mass flow in, and power extracted, or the efficiency of it. Then of course there is weight, atmospheric properties the day it was tested...etc.

I totally agree. I've heard of SHOs pulling 14.5s with just a filter and I've heard of fox body mustangs pull 13s stock. Plus some people just drive like mad men at the track!

I have never seen a 5.0 run 13's stock. the best I have seen is 15.0

Originally posted by johnny hennessy:

Originally posted by giddyup306:

Originally posted by warmonger:

Originally posted by fastcougar:
With manufacturing standards that have been in place in America for the past 10-15 years, there is no such thing as a factory freak. It all comes down to how the engine was broken in

Disagreement here! <yep>

I can't for the life of me see how breaking in an engine can make THAT much of a difference. In longevity of the engine yes, but power production, NO.
That is solely a product of mass flow in, and power extracted, or the efficiency of it. Then of course there is weight, atmospheric properties the day it was tested...etc.

I totally agree. I've heard of SHOs pulling 14.5s with just a filter and I've heard of fox body mustangs pull 13s stock. Plus some people just drive like mad men at the track!

I have never seen a 5.0 run 13's stock. the best I have seen is 15.0

Ya even with slicks i am pretty sure a stock 5.0 would make it into the 13's. They got a good bit of torque...but the HP is just lacking in that motor without some work to go with it.

The rumor has it that in like 87 88 (The speed density ones...suspected to run leaner than the MAF ..later models)
stripper 5.0 lx's with headers, gears, and tractions bars with GOOD tires mayb even slicks on a GOOD day with an awesome driver could break into 13.9x's.

They meant stock...like engine work I think.

Can we get back to talking about 14 second contours?

Even though most of the attention here was on duratecs, doesn't SleeperZ belong here with maybe some other zetecs?

The brohers bone stock 93 gt with the least power and tq of all years leading up to 93. He ran 14.4 with stock tires.

BONE STOCk 14.4's maybe he can drive right.

There is no way the fox body mustang in stock form can run 13.xx.No way in hell buddy save the bs.

I heard svts run 16.1 before in a 1/4 mile.(Cough Alex)

Originally posted by Rickson:
There is no way the fox body mustang in stock form can run 13.xx.No way in hell buddy save the bs.

stock from the factory? no. but without any additional or different parts? absolutely.

been there, done that.

but chuck norris will beat all of your cars, running.

Wow 3 pages, that was quick.

Only heard a cofirmed report of 1 CSVT in the 14's with I/H/E and a UDP.

Any others, bolts ons etc?

-Steve

Once you start adding the "bolt ons" issue in to the mix, the number of confirmed <=14.99 runs will increase substantially.

Exactly HOW MANY bolt ons can I count? I have a few.."bolt" ons but what counts in your list?

Originally posted by Ray:
Once you start adding the "bolt ons" issue in to the mix, the number of confirmed <=14.99 runs will increase substantially.

Exactly HOW MANY bolt ons can I count? I have a few.."bolt" ons but what counts in your list?

When did you take it to the track?

Mark

Originally posted by Ray:
Once you start adding the "bolt ons" issue in to the mix, the number of confirmed <=14.99 runs will increase substantially.

Exactly HOW MANY bolt ons can I count? I have a few.."bolt" ons but what counts in your list?

2.5 N/A was the request.....so no bolt on turbo's or nitrous or 3L's that bolt in

there was a guy wayyyy back in the day that hit 14.5 with his n/a 2.5L svt. Car was on slicks though.

Originally posted by Ray:

2.5 N/A was the request.....so no bolt on turbo's or nitrous or 3L's that bolt in

Agreed, interested in what the 2.5 can do NA, no NOS.

Slicks, etc are ok, try to stick with bolt on mods though.

Thanks,

-Steve

Originally posted by beyondloadedSE:
there was a guy wayyyy back in the day that hit 14.5 with his n/a 2.5L svt. Car was on slicks though.

I'ld like to hit that before track closes this season....i'm on my way and have plans to get me ther

A few years back there were a couple Capitol CEGers running high 14s with bolt-ons - intake, catback, headers, pulleys.

Originally posted by BV1:

Originally posted by Ray:

2.5 N/A was the request.....so no bolt on turbo's or nitrous or 3L's that bolt in

Agreed, interested in what the 2.5 can do NA, no NOS.

Slicks, etc are ok, try to stick with bolt on mods though.

Thanks,

-Steve

Wouldent worry about NOS cause IIRC they dont make a kit for our car, now Nitrous.. thats a different story.

Originally posted by Tourige:

Wouldent worry about NOS cause IIRC they dont make a kit for our car, now Nitrous.. thats a different story.

Nitrous Oxide System? Like Nawwwwzzzz.... Does NOS imply a wet system and Nitrous imply a dry system? Did I miss something? lol

-Steve

Originally posted by BV1:

Originally posted by Tourige:

Wouldent worry about NOS cause IIRC they dont make a kit for our car, now Nitrous.. thats a different story.

Nitrous Oxide System? Like Nawwwwzzzz.... Does NOS imply a wet system and Nitrous imply a dry system? Did I miss something? lol

-Steve

NOS is a company that makes nitrous kits (dry, wet, and direct port)

Originally posted by Tourige:

Originally posted by BV1:

Originally posted by Ray:

2.5 N/A was the request.....so no bolt on turbo's or nitrous or 3L's that bolt in

Agreed, interested in what the 2.5 can do NA, no NOS.

Slicks, etc are ok, try to stick with bolt on mods though.

Thanks,

-Steve

Wouldent worry about NOS cause IIRC they dont make a kit for our car, now Nitrous.. thats a different story.

nos certainly does makes a kit that will work on contours.

Originally posted by Tourige:

Originally posted by BV1:

Originally posted by Ray:

2.5 N/A was the request.....so no bolt on turbo's or nitrous or 3L's that bolt in

Agreed, interested in what the 2.5 can do NA, no NOS.

Slicks, etc are ok, try to stick with bolt on mods though.

Thanks,

-Steve

Wouldent worry about NOS cause IIRC they dont make a kit for our car, now Nitrous.. thats a different story.

How was being banned?

This freaking NOS crap is getting very annoying... next time you say Kleenex or something along those lines I hope someone says... It's sanitary tissue or whatever and they punch you in the face.

Originally posted by WRX Barge:
This freaking NOS crap is getting very annoying... next time you say Kleenex or something along those lines I hope someone says... It's sanitary tissue or whatever and they punch you in the face.

facial tissue

Originally posted by 99cougar:

Originally posted by johnny hennessy:

Originally posted by giddyup306:

Originally posted by warmonger:

Originally posted by fastcougar:
With manufacturing standards that have been in place in America for the past 10-15 years, there is no such thing as a factory freak. It all comes down to how the engine was broken in

Disagreement here! <yep>

I can't for the life of me see how breaking in an engine can make THAT much of a difference. In longevity of the engine yes, but power production, NO.
That is solely a product of mass flow in, and power extracted, or the efficiency of it. Then of course there is weight, atmospheric properties the day it was tested...etc.

I totally agree. I've heard of SHOs pulling 14.5s with just a filter and I've heard of fox body mustangs pull 13s stock. Plus some people just drive like mad men at the track!

I have never seen a 5.0 run 13's stock. the best I have seen is 15.0

Ya even with slicks i am pretty sure a stock 5.0 would make it into the 13's. They got a good bit of torque...but the HP is just lacking in that motor without some work to go with it.

My brother's old 88 hatch had just about every bolt on possible, bored .030 over, 10:1 JE pistons, and a sh1tty ATX and it ran 13.0 flat. I'll try and dig up some slips to show ya.....

Morgan