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Alas, not my car.

http://www.nobleforums.com/showthread.php?t=1012

That's using dual Garrett GT-28RS turbos.
nice! Any more specs on the car?
Um wow! I don't ever visit this forum and your title got my attention. That's amazing. Tell ya what, if you're unhappy with the performance of your Noble. I'll take it off your hands for you.
I don't know too much about it. I know they did open it up to swap in some titanium.

http://www.nobleforums.com/showthread.php?t=990

His car is not a drag car though; I don't think it's ever been to the strip. This guy is a SERIOUS track monster. He goes from track to track to track. I kid you not, he did like 30 track days in 3 months, and is doing many many more.
Nice numbers!
I am envious. I do wonder about the base plot. The tq & hp lines cross at near 5300 rpm. Weird that the boost pressure should come on so late with twin T28 fans... That was all fugged up...
Originally posted by TourDeForce:
I am envious. I do wonder about the base plot. The tq & hp lines cross at near 5300 rpm. Weird that the boost pressure should come on so late with twin T28 fans... That was all fugged up...




By definition, HP must equal torque at 5252 rpm, so the lines will cross there every time.

I don't think they've done any fuel tuning yet, nor played with the gain on the turbos too much yet. It should improve from here. However, they are GT28RS turbos, which are reasonably big for twin applications, with a flow capacity of about 350hp EACH.
Originally posted by gotapex:
I don't think they've done any fuel tuning yet, nor played with the gain on the turbos too much yet. It should improve from here. .




"Well everyone, we have just completed tuning of Dereks M400GTRS for the 1Lap of America. Currently the car is dynoed out at 454.072 wheel horse power and 434.585 rear wheel torque."
Originally posted by Rickson:
Originally posted by gotapex:
I don't think they've done any fuel tuning yet, nor played with the gain on the turbos too much yet. It should improve from here. .




"Well everyone, we have just completed tuning of Dereks M400GTRS for the 1Lap of America. Currently the car is dynoed out at 454.072 wheel horse power and 434.585 rear wheel torque."




I believe they're eventually going to use either a piggyback, or full Motec system. Once they get the built tranny in, the power is going to go up again.
i like the quote in the one guy's sig on that page:

"Understeer is when you hit the wall with the front of the car and oversteer is when you hit the wall with the rear of the car. Horsepower is how fast you hit the wall, torque is how far you take the wall with you."
Originally posted by gotapex:
Originally posted by TourDeForce:
I am envious. I do wonder about the base plot. The tq & hp lines cross at near 5300 rpm. Weird that the boost pressure should come on so late with twin T28 fans... That was all fugged up...




By definition, HP must equal torque at 5252 rpm, so the lines will cross there every time.




I realize that. Maybe my eyes are goin' bad, but that graph looks like the lines cross at well OVER 5300. Do you see it, or is it just me...
Originally posted by GreaseyMonkey:
i like the quote in the one guy's sig on that page:

"Understeer is when you hit the wall with the front of the car and oversteer is when you hit the wall with the rear of the car. Horsepower is how fast you hit the wall, torque is how far you take the wall with you."




I prefer the quote "Understeer is when you see the tree you're about to hit, Oversteer is when you don't"
Anyone notice the stock head bolts ... what is his internal component configuration?
They are graphed in Excel, from a spreadsheet. The spreadsheet data is fine, but there doesn't happen to be a data point right at 5252, and Excel's guess at the line doesn't hit that point.
Update:

More tuning. Now at 488 rear wheel hp and an incredible 530 lb/ft rear wheel torque!

http://www.nobleforums.com/showthread.php?t=1049
rear wheel? i'm confused
click the link and all will be clear
Hello, my name is Dan, would you possibly let me have sex with your car, sir?
Originally posted by gotapex:
Update:

More tuning. Now at 488 rear wheel hp and an incredible 530 lb/ft rear wheel torque!

http://www.nobleforums.com/showthread.php?t=1049




Wow, that's impressive!
Good Job.
Originally posted by GreaseyMonkey:
i like the quote in the one guy's sig on that page:

"Understeer is when you hit the wall with the front of the car and oversteer is when you hit the wall with the rear of the car. Horsepower is how fast you hit the wall, torque is how far you take the wall with you."




Yeah, I like that sig. too. Funny!
The big question is:

How do you build up the tranny to take that kind of torque?
Am I the only one here that has SEEN this car?

Granted I only saw it on the trailer when he was at the drag strip. He was running his "us's fastest street legal mercedes", one of them supercharged ones with nitrous and slicks. I believe running 10 something.
Originally posted by Kremithefrog:
Am I the only one here that has SEEN this car?

Granted I only saw it on the trailer when he was at the drag strip. He was running his "us's fastest street legal mercedes", one of them supercharged ones with nitrous and slicks. I believe running 10 something.




Yeah, that thing was a monster at the dragstrip.

http://www.stang.cc/sgmp/derek-10.95.wmv
The motorhome he pulls his big trailer with is the same kind that is on MTV's NEXT, the one with contour headlights. Just was sorta interesting to me.
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