The last post for this "Spring Zing questions" did get a bit out of hand and it was in the wrong forum, so lets do that right here in "dyno and drag". I was speaking with Hector about this last night and told him I found that other post to be one of the most humerous ones to date here
As long as theres NO name calling or street racing stories, this post can pic up where that one left off, or locked as the case may be, no hard feelings Jim
It seems theres 3 camps for the "shootout" at SZ...
-The EVO camp
-The turbo'd 3.0L CSVT camp
-The WRX camp
Going into this we do have a couple facts, like Dereks car runnin' a 13.7 @99 mph modded out with more on the way. We also know that EVO's run mid 13's stock and driven accordingly. Its also true theres several Tours runnin' into the 13's at high mph. This all combines for the best bench racing and even better actual race at SZ (at the dragstrip, ofcoarse!) The variables for these cars vary considerably...
-3.0L turbo vs. 2.0L turbo vs. 2.5L turbo (STi if one shows up)
-the weight seems pretty close for all cars, give or take a couple
-gearing, inparticular the final drives (3.71/4.06 vs. 4.52)
-transmission gearing- I don't know what it is in the EVO's but I know this, their very short to keep the engine on boil, something the gearing in the Contour does NOT do.
Now in closing I don't know where all the venom is coming from and no, I'm not talking about the NOS system either
but rather towards the EVO guys (Kevin and Hector) These are two, long standing members here in the CEG and should be treated with some type of respect IMO. To some degree its gotta have something to do with be jealous, period. I wouldn't call myself jealous of their cars, rather envious, especially when I could've bought one of those damn things a week before I leased my Crossfire
, but thats another story! Kevin said it best, the EVO GUYS DIDN'T START IT, so check yourself
Now with further to do, let the bench racing begin, I'll start...
I'm going to take out an ATX/Zetec with my Crossfire, wish me luck
Nobody is mad at Hector or Kevin.
Why blow it out of proportion? As for big contenders, I do hope to see Stazi hit the track. I've tried talking Jim into it several times, but it may take some more pushing from CEG.
Venom = nitrous kit
NOS = nitrous kit
Venom does not = NOS kit
I now have 3 people interested in the Venom nitrous kit, so I am pretty certain that I won't have it at the time of Spring Zing. If that's the case, I'll just shoot for some nice N/A 1/4 miles, and be happy with that.
As for the smack talking, that's what car people do. You just rarely see it here on CEG, because someone will have a hissy-fit if you talk about racing, and "Contours aren't drag cars."
Go over to svtperformance.com, they have a smackdown forum. Personally, I just want to see a bunch of people go to the track this year, so I'm stirring the pot a little bit.
Mark
Originally posted by Y2KSVT:
Nobody is mad at Hector or Kevin. Why blow it out of proportion? As for big contenders, I do hope to see Stazi hit the track. I've tried talking Jim into it several times, but it may take some more pushing from CEG.
Which I've never understood. All that $$$ and it doesn't go to the track?
Originally posted by Y2KSVT:
Originally posted by LocoGSR:
Originally posted by 5V7 Dr1v3r627:
Originally posted by LocoGSR: I am going to the drag strip this time....who wants to LOSE?
Fixed...
Actually, there's a small chance that my car will be ready to show an EVO whatsup at the dragstrip. Depends on a few things between now and May 20th.
Mark
Let me do the math:
Fastest Contour is 13.4? Stock Evo's with grandma launch run 13.9.....my car isn't stock and I can launch my car......
Yeah, because hector wasn't the first one to bring up this!
My beef is simply this...Hector hasn't been to the track with his EVO yet he assumes because of said mods it automatically equals 12's. I've been to the track with my buddy's MR and he ran 13.8s all night long. That also being said how many turbo/blown contours are there as opposed to EVO's? For the past two years at SZ the drag has never happened. So certain people have no seen what their cars can do. I went to the track 2 years ago and couldn't pull better than a 2.4 60'...was I affraid of breaking something yes...was it my first time at the track...yes. Have I gone since...nope. Look at it this way...3-4 contours have run mid to low 13's. There are 5-7 turbo/blown contours PERIOD. You guys have a much larger pool of vehicles to project your potential 1/4 mile. What you all seem to be missing is that when I stated the trap speed argument my point was that with practice (that I certaintly won't get) I can get my 1/4 mile time down. I go to the drag strip very rarely and if I'm trapping 96 mph with another 2.4 60'...give me a flippin break. This is racing and racing takes practice...whatever you THINK you are gonna run...throw some more time onto it.
If Harold comes, its over for everybody.
Hell, I'd be happy to get the chance to run mine down the strip at SZ.
Rick
Originally posted by MapOfTaziFoShoââ??¢:
Originally posted by Y2KSVT:
Originally posted by LocoGSR:
Originally posted by 5V7 Dr1v3r627:
Originally posted by LocoGSR: I am going to the drag strip this time....who wants to LOSE?
Fixed...
Actually, there's a small chance that my car will be ready to show an EVO whatsup at the dragstrip. Depends on a few things between now and May 20th.
Mark
Let me do the math:
Fastest Contour is 13.4? Stock Evo's with grandma launch run 13.9.....my car isn't stock and I can launch my car......
Yeah, because hector wasn't the first one to bring up this!
My beef is simply this...Hector hasn't been to the track with his EVO yet he assumes because of said mods it automatically equals 12's. I've been to the track with my buddy's MR and he ran 13.8s all night long. That also being said how many turbo/blown contours are there as opposed to EVO's? For the past two years at SZ the drag has never happened. So certain people have no seen what their cars can do. I went to the track 2 years ago and couldn't pull better than a 2.4 60'...was I affraid of breaking something yes...was it my first time at the track...yes. Have I gone since...nope. Look at it this way...3-4 contours have run mid to low 13's. There are 5-7 turbo/blown contours PERIOD. You guys have a much larger pool of vehicles to project your potential 1/4 mile. What you all seem to be missing is that when I stated the trap speed argument my point was that with practice (that I certaintly won't get) I can get my 1/4 mile time down. I go to the drag strip very rarely and if I'm trapping 96 mph with another 2.4 60'...give me a flippin break. This is racing and racing takes practice...whatever you THINK you are gonna run...throw some more time onto it.
Then STFU and let someone who has been to the track in that vehicle type numerous times drive it. Otherwise, you are just 
ing about getting beat because you suck.
Hey [censored]...how many things have you done once and immediatly been good at!?
How many skilled contour drivers are there...and by that I mean guys that frequent the track enough to get their 60' down to 2.0 etc...maybe 2 or 3 guys...
Its very unusual for a car to run a 14.7 @81 mph, how in the hell did that happen and again, not doubting it, but rather, just trying to understand it
Secondly, Pete, Hector said he wanted to know who wants to race and then, Alex, fixed it and said "who wants to lose", so like we said, they didn't start it
As far as the Venom comment, well, that was a joke on my part, get it, "venom"
Now onto the important stuff, who's ATX/Zetec ass am I going to kick first with the Crossfire
Originally posted by hector:
Let me do the math:
Fastest Contour is 13.4? Stock Evo's with grandma launch run 13.9.....my car isn't stock and I can launch my car......
The above is what I considered started it... 
Anyone can go out and buy an EVO. There is a handful of guys that can build a 13 second contour. I was offended at the push over factor that was brought forth in the above post.
Honestly im not sure how it happened, It was at lapeer. Possibly a timing problem or something but if im not mistaken it happened twice that day trapped low 80mph.
Y do you wanna race a atx/zetec i though your Crossfire was Crazy fast?
Originally posted by MapOfTaziFoShoââ??¢:
Originally posted by hector:
Let me do the math:
Fastest Contour is 13.4? Stock Evo's with grandma launch run 13.9.....my car isn't stock and I can launch my car......
The above is what I considered started it...
Anyone can go out and buy an EVO. There is a handful of guys that can build a 13 second contour. I was offended at the push over factor that was brought forth in the above post.
OK, we get it, now can we move on?
Quote:
Y do you wanna race a atx/zetec i though your Crossfire was Crazy fast?
Ok, you busted me Jason, I'm saying that "tounge in cheek" and all I ever said about my car is that it will beat a stock CSVT, thats all Actually, I'm trying to set something up with John to "compare the performance" our two cars!
Originally posted by beyondloadedSE:
If Harold comes, its over for everybody.
everybody?
Originally posted by MxRacer:
Originally posted by beyondloadedSE:
If Harold comes, its over for everybody.
everybody?
Unless you know someone who runs...... 7's? 
Mark
Originally posted by MapOfTaziFoShoââ??¢:
Hey [censored]...how many things have you done once and immediatly been good at!?
How many skilled contour drivers are there...and by that I mean guys that frequent the track enough to get their 60' down to 2.0 etc...maybe 2 or 3 guys...
It ain't hard to get a 2.3 60. I haven't been to the track in almost two years in my conturd, but I beat you I could still pull the same consistent 60fts.
There are many things I've only done once and been good at. I'm sorry that you just suck!
If i had a Replacement Diff or a lsd i would race ya but ya I dno't soo im good LOL
Im kinda known for smokin stock diffs and im trying my hardest to make this one last
Originally posted by RTStabler51:
Originally posted by MapOfTaziFoShoââ??¢:
Hey [censored]...how many things have you done once and immediatly been good at!?
How many skilled contour drivers are there...and by that I mean guys that frequent the track enough to get their 60' down to 2.0 etc...maybe 2 or 3 guys...
It ain't hard to get a 2.3 60. I haven't been to the track in almost two years in my conturd, but I beat you I could still pull the same consistent 60fts.
There are many things I've only done once and been good at. I'm sorry that you just suck!
Hey Pete, check this out My first time down the dragstrip ever was in a 93' Dakota (318, auto w/3.55 "open diff") and I cut a .027 light (.000 being perfect on this particular tree), so sometimes you do get it right right away My best ever was a .005, but I did cut a -.001 once, but that was obviously a redlight FWIW, that Dakota ran a 16.0 @85 mph and then we swapped out the stock computer, replaced it with a Mopar performance unit and right after ran a 15.7 @88 mph! The truck had stock everything, with the exection of a Flowmaster muffler, so it ran pretty well IMO.
Been to the track twice in my life and pulled 2.1 and 2.2 60' times in my SE on a stock dif no less
. Seemed like no matter how hard i tried i couldn't break it....
Originally posted by pole120:
Been to the track twice in my life and pulled 2.1 and 2.2 60' times in my SE on a stock dif no less . Seemed like no matter how hard i tried i couldn't break it....
Thata boy!!! Ladies and gentlemen, this is a prime example of a car enthusiast! He goes out EXPECTING to break something! All you people going out with your tail between your legs, are the ones who end up towing your cars home. If ya can't afford the repairs, you either can't afford the hobby, or you should take up purse collecting.
Mark
Shoot, I tow mine TO the track expecting to break something!
Lets see i went through 4 diffs in my First SVT between Drag racing and Auto X'in... Def not scared but i would rather spend my money on other items
If I can make it, I'll be sure to run.
Originally posted by Buckshot77:
Shoot, I tow mine TO the track expecting to break something!
I have seen the footage. I completely understand why.
Originally posted by mbb41:
Originally posted by Buckshot77:
Shoot, I tow mine TO the track expecting to break something!
I have seen the footage. I completely understand why.
Originally posted by The EX- Striped SVT:
Originally posted by RTStabler51:
Originally posted by MapOfTaziFoShoââ??¢:
Hey [censored]...how many things have you done once and immediatly been good at!?
How many skilled contour drivers are there...and by that I mean guys that frequent the track enough to get their 60' down to 2.0 etc...maybe 2 or 3 guys...
It ain't hard to get a 2.3 60. I haven't been to the track in almost two years in my conturd, but I beat you I could still pull the same consistent 60fts.
There are many things I've only done once and been good at. I'm sorry that you just suck!
Hey Pete, check this out My first time down the dragstrip ever was in a 93' Dakota (318, auto w/3.55 "open diff") and I cut a .027 light (.000 being perfect on this particular tree), so sometimes you do get it right right away My best ever was a .005, but I did cut a -.001 once, but that was obviously a redlight FWIW, that Dakota ran a 16.0 @85 mph and then we swapped out the stock computer, replaced it with a Mopar performance unit and right after ran a 15.7 @88 mph! The truck had stock everything, with the exection of a Flowmaster muffler, so it ran pretty well IMO.
Roger we are talking about 60' times...not rXn time.
Originally posted by Y2KSVT:
Originally posted by MxRacer:
Originally posted by beyondloadedSE:
If Harold comes, its over for everybody.
everybody?
Unless you know someone who runs...... 7's?
Mark
how about 6's?
but i doubt i would get him to a contour meet in IN.
who's harold, and what does he drive?
2jzfe with a T-1,000,000,000 in a Lexus SC 400
Originally posted by SteedaSVTââ??¢:
Lets see i went through 4 diffs in my First SVT between Drag racing and Auto X'in... Def not scared but i would rather spend my money on other items
Uhhhh, you should have spent money on an LSD after your FIRST diff went out.
The thing is, if you build a car to handle abuse, why not go ballz to the wall sometimes? If I have a lot of money into my car(which I do), I'm going to drive it like I stole it.
Mark
Originally posted by Y2KSVT:
The thing is, if you build a car to handle abuse, why not go ballz to the wall sometimes?
That is the EXACLT mentality i'm taking with my SVT buildup, except replace sometimes with nonstop....
Originally posted by Y2KSVT:
Originally posted by SteedaSVTââ??¢:
Lets see i went through 4 diffs in my First SVT between Drag racing and Auto X'in... Def not scared but i would rather spend my money on other items
Uhhhh, you should have spent money on an LSD after your FIRST diff went out.
It was covered under extended warranty and they wouldn't allow me to spend the extra money to get the lsd. Soo i just broke it every 12k instead. Sucked to be them
Originally posted by SteedaSVTââ??¢:
Originally posted by Y2KSVT:
Originally posted by SteedaSVTââ??¢:
Lets see i went through 4 diffs in my First SVT between Drag racing and Auto X'in... Def not scared but i would rather spend my money on other items
Uhhhh, you should have spent money on an LSD after your FIRST diff went out.
It was covered under extended warranty and they wouldn't allow me to spend the extra money to get the lsd. Soo i just broke it every 12k instead. Sucked to be them
Hahaa! Nice! I would have done the same thing. Oh wait, I did! Had them do 2 tranny rebuilds for me while under warranty.
Mark
Originally posted by SteedaSVTââ??¢:
Lets see i went through 4 diffs in my First SVT between Drag racing and Auto X'in... Def not scared but i would rather spend my money on other items
I couldn't agree with you more I also understand Marks point about "building it to run", but if you haven't done so, why do it and be w/o your ride for some time I don't want to piss of Steeda here and bring up my old car but I only do it to disprove my "rep" When I bought my GN 10 years ago it had 87K on the clock and then modded the car out over the next 5 seasons. I made FIFTY passes on the car at Ubly, runnin' anywhere from 13.4@101 mph when I did the first "basic mods" to a 12.6@109 mph when I had the turbo/ 40 lb injectors/front-mounted intercooler/3" downpipe and exhaust done. I also cut a 1.91 60 ft time w/ that 12.6@ 109 mph, but by then, the car had 120K on the original engine/trans and the valve springs needed to be replaced twice by then, not to mention the TE-60 turbo needed a 3000 stall to make it work "properly", so I was stuck with my mid 12 second car. I bring all this up because I knew the car could handle all of this and just "went for it" The CSVT on the hand, well, its not built for that abuse stock and didn't care too much about draggin' a car that would go no better than high 14's with a couple mods and IMO, cost WAY too much money to get it into the 13's, not worth it IMO. Those of you who did so, especially on one that your bought new, well, it must be nice to have money, thats all I'm sayin' and I spent my fair share of money on the Caprice I raced as well as the GN and those days are long behind me The moral of the story is this, if your going to drag, get something that can truely handle it and if its something you really care about, i.e. more emphasis on cruizin' and handling, DON'T DO IT
It dosn't piss me off that you show your age
Gn's are cool, If you have a mullet and live in roseville HAHAHAHA
Originally posted by The EX- Striped SVT:
The moral of the story is this, if your going to drag, get something that can truely handle it and if its something you really care about, i.e. more emphasis on cruizin' and handling, DON'T DO IT
the world would be an awfully boring place if people only raced cars that were "ideally suited" for drag racing. actually, if people followed that acumen, your precious GN (i.e. a six cyl turbo family car) would never have existed, right? or if it did, it would have done so with a big block instead? and what fun is that?
to each his own. if everybody liked the same thing, we'd all be banging steedas mom instead of just most of us.
I somewhat agree with you Roger, but all I'm saying is, why go through the hassle of doing a fully built motor, a $5500(now $6000) turbo kit, beefing up your transmission and axles to handle the power, and then just take it out once a week and baby it? If I wanted a $30+k cruiser, I'd buy a Mercedes. And just because I take my Contour to the dragstrip from time to time, doesn't mean that I consider it a drag queen. It's a comfortable car to drive everyday if I want to, looks good, low maintenance, and just feels good to drive. I can't stand auto-x, and there aren't really any open road courses in my area. When I need my crazy HP and 1/4 mile fix, I'll buy an 03/04 Cobra.
Mark
Originally posted by MapOfTaziFoShoââ??¢:
Originally posted by hector:
Let me do the math:
Fastest Contour is 13.4? Stock Evo's with grandma launch run 13.9.....my car isn't stock and I can launch my car......
The above is what I considered started it...
Anyone can go out and buy an EVO. There is a handful of guys that can build a 13 second contour. I was offended at the push over factor that was brought forth in the above post.
It all equals out:
Stock SVT Contour 15 sec.....you build it up to a 13 sec
Stock EVO 13 sec....you build it up to a 11 sec.
I just started with something faster.
If I can do it like my Contour (19-16 sec)...I will run 10s sometime in the future.
Originally posted by MapOfTaziFoShoââ??¢:
How many skilled contour drivers are there...and by that I mean guys that frequent the track enough to get their 60' down to 2.0 etc...maybe 2 or 3 guys...
I do a 60ft in 2.8 seconds...
...In a '97 Zetec ATX with nothing but a jury-rigged intake and a messload of runs down the track with "ugly" Radial T/As.
Give me a faster car and I'll do 2 seconds. Maybe faster.
Originally posted by MadMerc97:
Originally posted by MapOfTaziFoShoââ??¢:
How many skilled contour drivers are there...and by that I mean guys that frequent the track enough to get their 60' down to 2.0 etc...maybe 2 or 3 guys...
I do a 60ft in 2.8 seconds...
...In a '97 Zetec ATX with nothing but a jury-rigged intake and a messload of runs down the track with "ugly" Radial T/As.
Give me a faster car and I'll do 2 seconds. Maybe faster.
I got a 2.3 out of my Zetec ATX.
Yeah, but you had a blower and a '00 model at that.
Originally posted by LocoGSR:
Originally posted by MapOfTaziFoShoââ??¢:
Originally posted by hector:
Let me do the math:
Fastest Contour is 13.4? Stock Evo's with grandma launch run 13.9.....my car isn't stock and I can launch my car......
The above is what I considered started it...
Anyone can go out and buy an EVO. There is a handful of guys that can build a 13 second contour. I was offended at the push over factor that was brought forth in the above post.
It all equals out:
Stock SVT Contour 15 sec.....you build it up to a 13 sec
Stock EVO 13 sec....you build it up to a 11 sec.
I just started with something faster.
If I can do it like my Contour (19-16 sec)...I will run 10s sometime in the future.
Fair...I just get sick of everyone sh!tting on the car I own. I get no respect from my neon, honda, DSM, or any friends. I wonder why I even bother...
Originally posted by MapOfTaziFoShoââ??¢:
2jzfe with a T-1,000,000,000 in a Lexus SC 300
fixed. Not sure what size turbo hes running, but its good for about 1000 whp. It is on the bottle too.
Originally posted by SteedaSVTââ??¢:
If i had a Replacement Diff or a lsd i would race ya but ya I dno't soo im good LOL
Im kinda known for smokin stock diffs and im trying my hardest to make this one last
Okay.. When-TF is spring zing and is it going to be on a weekend? This post already has me fired up! I can't tell you how many Evo's I saw with boost controllers only pushing high 13's!!! I can't tell you how many people on here think they can drive so friggin good..... I may not drive all that good but I know how to make power and I have the know-how to put it to the ground if I spend the money!
Oh yeah, I hope to hell Hector shows up in the low 13's or 12s so we can all feel good about getting beat. However, if not....he'll never live it down.
AS for me... I'm fired up enough to try and plan a road trip to Spring Zing just to put some "shut up" on as many people as possible.
If it is on a weekend, then I might be able to go. If it is over a holiday weekend then I'm even better.
I have wider tires and I just might come with a suprise or two....
Originally posted by MxRacer:
Originally posted by The EX- Striped SVT:
The moral of the story is this, if your going to drag, get something that can truely handle it and if its something you really care about, i.e. more emphasis on cruizin' and handling, DON'T DO IT
the world would be an awfully boring place if people only raced cars that were "ideally suited" for drag racing. actually, if people followed that acumen, your precious GN (i.e. a six cyl turbo family car) would never have existed, right? or if it did, it would have done so with a big block instead? and what fun is that?
to each his own. if everybody liked the same thing, we'd all be banging steedas mom instead of just most of us.
Wow. Nicely put.
Originally posted by warmonger:
Originally posted by SteedaSVTââ??¢:
If i had a Replacement Diff or a lsd i would race ya but ya I dno't soo im good LOL
Im kinda known for smokin stock diffs and im trying my hardest to make this one last
Okay.. When-TF is spring zing and is it going to be on a weekend? This post already has me fired up! I can't tell you how many Evo's I saw with boost controllers only pushing high 13's!!! I can't tell you how many people on here think they can drive so friggin good..... I may not drive all that good but I know how to make power and I have the know-how to put it to the ground if I spend the money!
Oh yeah, I hope to hell Hector shows up in the low 13's or 12s so we can all feel good about getting beat. However, if not....he'll never live it down.
AS for me... I'm fired up enough to try and plan a road trip to Spring Zing just to put some "shut up" on as many people as possible.
If it is on a weekend, then I might be able to go. If it is over a holiday weekend then I'm even better.
I have wider tires and I just might come with a suprise or two....
WTF does your post have to do with the post of mine you quoted????
Are you saying your gonna put some "Shut UP" on me?
Originally posted by warmonger:
Originally posted by SteedaSVTââ??¢:
If i had a Replacement Diff or a lsd i would race ya but ya I dno't soo im good LOL
Im kinda known for smokin stock diffs and im trying my hardest to make this one last
Okay.. When-TF is spring zing and is it going to be on a weekend? This post already has me fired up! I can't tell you how many Evo's I saw with boost controllers only pushing high 13's!!! I can't tell you how many people on here think they can drive so friggin good..... I may not drive all that good but I know how to make power and I have the know-how to put it to the ground if I spend the money!
Oh yeah, I hope to hell Hector shows up in the low 13's or 12s so we can all feel good about getting beat. However, if not....he'll never live it down.
AS for me... I'm fired up enough to try and plan a road trip to Spring Zing just to put some "shut up" on as many people as possible.
If it is on a weekend, then I might be able to go. If it is over a holiday weekend then I'm even better.
I have wider tires and I just might come with a suprise or two....
LOL....I never live down anything anyway. I get more trash-talking than should be allowed.
Originally posted by LocoGSR:
Originally posted by warmonger:
Originally posted by SteedaSVTââ??¢:
If i had a Replacement Diff or a lsd i would race ya but ya I dno't soo im good LOL
Im kinda known for smokin stock diffs and im trying my hardest to make this one last
Okay.. When-TF is spring zing and is it going to be on a weekend? This post already has me fired up! I can't tell you how many Evo's I saw with boost controllers only pushing high 13's!!! I can't tell you how many people on here think they can drive so friggin good..... I may not drive all that good but I know how to make power and I have the know-how to put it to the ground if I spend the money!
Oh yeah, I hope to hell Hector shows up in the low 13's or 12s so we can all feel good about getting beat. However, if not....he'll never live it down.
AS for me... I'm fired up enough to try and plan a road trip to Spring Zing just to put some "shut up" on as many people as possible.
If it is on a weekend, then I might be able to go. If it is over a holiday weekend then I'm even better.
I have wider tires and I just might come with a suprise or two....
LOL....I never live down anything anyway. I get more trash-talking than should be allowed.
Def not more trash talking than me Nancy!!!!
So SHUT IT!
Originally posted by SteedaSVTââ??¢:
Originally posted by LocoGSR:
Originally posted by warmonger:
Originally posted by SteedaSVTââ??¢:
If i had a Replacement Diff or a lsd i would race ya but ya I dno't soo im good LOL
Im kinda known for smokin stock diffs and im trying my hardest to make this one last
Okay.. When-TF is spring zing and is it going to be on a weekend? This post already has me fired up! I can't tell you how many Evo's I saw with boost controllers only pushing high 13's!!! I can't tell you how many people on here think they can drive so friggin good..... I may not drive all that good but I know how to make power and I have the know-how to put it to the ground if I spend the money!
Oh yeah, I hope to hell Hector shows up in the low 13's or 12s so we can all feel good about getting beat. However, if not....he'll never live it down.
AS for me... I'm fired up enough to try and plan a road trip to Spring Zing just to put some "shut up" on as many people as possible.
If it is on a weekend, then I might be able to go. If it is over a holiday weekend then I'm even better.
I have wider tires and I just might come with a suprise or two....
LOL....I never live down anything anyway. I get more trash-talking than should be allowed.
Def not more trash talking than me Nancy!!!!
So SHUT IT!
Shut what? I shut my door earlier.
Originally posted by warmonger:
Okay.. When-TF is spring zing and is it going to be on a weekend? This post already has me fired up! I can't tell you how many Evo's I saw with boost controllers only pushing high 13's!!! I can't tell you how many people on here think they can drive so friggin good..... I may not drive all that good but I know how to make power and I have the know-how to put it to the ground if I spend the money!
Oh yeah, I hope to hell Hector shows up in the low 13's or 12s so we can all feel good about getting beat. However, if not....he'll never live it down.
AS for me... I'm fired up enough to try and plan a road trip to Spring Zing just to put some "shut up" on as many people as possible.
If it is on a weekend, then I might be able to go. If it is over a holiday weekend then I'm even better.
I have wider tires and I just might come with a suprise or two....
SWEET You need to come!!! Us contour people need you!
Originally posted by SteedaSVTââ??¢:
Originally posted by warmonger:
Originally posted by SteedaSVTââ??¢:
If i had a Replacement Diff or a lsd i would race ya but ya I dno't soo im good LOL
Im kinda known for smokin stock diffs and im trying my hardest to make this one last
Okay.. When-TF is spring zing and is it going to be on a weekend? This post already has me fired up! I can't tell you how many Evo's I saw with boost controllers only pushing high 13's!!! I can't tell you how many people on here think they can drive so friggin good..... I may not drive all that good but I know how to make power and I have the know-how to put it to the ground if I spend the money!
Oh yeah, I hope to hell Hector shows up in the low 13's or 12s so we can all feel good about getting beat. However, if not....he'll never live it down.
AS for me... I'm fired up enough to try and plan a road trip to Spring Zing just to put some "shut up" on as many people as possible.
If it is on a weekend, then I might be able to go. If it is over a holiday weekend then I'm even better.
I have wider tires and I just might come with a suprise or two....
WTF does your post have to do with the post of mine you quoted????
Are you saying your gonna put some "Shut UP" on me?
Hahaha... nope, I just USED you to pick a post and start smack talking.
Hows it feel to be used so badly.......
But if I can make it, and if you wanna step up to the plate....
This is the place to trash talk and bench race right? j/k man, its all in fun. I'll still win though.
Hey Tom, do a search to find out when Spring Zing is.
Actually, just go down to the Spring Zing forum and check out the details. May 18-21(Thurs-Sun). Round up some southerners, and make your way up for a good time.
Mark
Originally posted by warmonger:
Originally posted by SteedaSVTââ??¢:
Originally posted by warmonger:
Originally posted by SteedaSVTââ??¢:
If i had a Replacement Diff or a lsd i would race ya but ya I dno't soo im good LOL
Im kinda known for smokin stock diffs and im trying my hardest to make this one last
Okay.. When-TF is spring zing and is it going to be on a weekend? This post already has me fired up! I can't tell you how many Evo's I saw with boost controllers only pushing high 13's!!! I can't tell you how many people on here think they can drive so friggin good..... I may not drive all that good but I know how to make power and I have the know-how to put it to the ground if I spend the money!
Oh yeah, I hope to hell Hector shows up in the low 13's or 12s so we can all feel good about getting beat. However, if not....he'll never live it down.
AS for me... I'm fired up enough to try and plan a road trip to Spring Zing just to put some "shut up" on as many people as possible.
If it is on a weekend, then I might be able to go. If it is over a holiday weekend then I'm even better.
I have wider tires and I just might come with a suprise or two....
WTF does your post have to do with the post of mine you quoted????
Are you saying your gonna put some "Shut UP" on me?
Hahaha... nope, I just USED you to pick a post and start smack talking.
Hows it feel to be used so badly.......
But if I can make it, and if you wanna step up to the plate....
This is the place to trash talk and bench race right? j/k man, its all in fun. I'll still win though.
Bring your little girly Contour Tom By then Ill have something that runs 10's
Originally posted by SteedaSVTââ??¢:
Bring your little girly Contour Tom By then Ill have something that runs 10's
you may own something that can run 10's, but it will never see them with your ass on it.
Ya ok
Next i suppose i don't really know how to ride?
I'm really sick of you Following me around and Cuasing nonsense. How about you run your mouth to my face tough guy!!! Ya thought soo....
Originally posted by SteedaSVTââ??¢:
Ya ok
Next i suppose i don't really know how to ride?
I'm really sick of you Following me around and Cuasing nonsense. How about you run your mouth to my face tough guy!!! Ya thought soo....
Dear Jason,
I am so very sorry for making fun of you. I understand, now, that my actions were childish and immature. Please accept my apologies, and I hope we can move forward from this point in love and harmony.
If anyone needs me, I'll be driving my NSX.
-Dave
Originally posted by MxRacer:
Originally posted by SteedaSVTââ??¢:
Ya ok
Next i suppose i don't really know how to ride?
I'm really sick of you Following me around and Cuasing nonsense. How about you run your mouth to my face tough guy!!! Ya thought soo....
Dear Jason,
I am so very sorry for making fun of you. I understand, now, that my actions were childish and immature. Please accept my apologies, and I hope we can move forward from this point in love and harmony.
If anyone needs me, I'll be driving my NSX.
-Dave
LOL I knew that would get that sort of response
mmm NSX 
Sorry i had the money to get one but i bought a G6 instead ya I know there almost the same car...
The GN is NOT a mullett ride, sorry, thats the Monte Carlo SS or "Gutlass"
The year of the car says mullett, but the engine doesn't
Dave, you said something about the car having a BB, well, it does, kinda, check this out. I used to tell people this, the engine was 3.8L and the little "hairdryer" to the left was another 3.8L
, thus equaling the power of a BB. IMO, 355 ft/lbs of torque @2000 rpm STOCK is muscle car territory
I was kinda hoping the post wouldn't take the turn it has, but it was inevitable I guess
Pete, I don't think anyone is ragging your ride, you've got your 3.0L up and running so whats the problem my man
All I ever said is I didn't believe you took out one of my cars with your old set up, thats all but as far as everyone else, well, I can only speak for myself here
The hype machine is rollin and it will sell more tickets for SZ06'
From a roll is very different from a dig...but a race is a race is a race. Have I raced a Crossfire from a dig...no...from a roll yes.
My car will run less than its current 13.7's by then or I will drive it off a cliff.
Originally posted by WRX Barge:
My car will run less than its current 13.7's by then or I will drive it off a cliff.
You can drive it out to the Grand Canyon with me and Rtstabler51.
Mark
Originally posted by Y2KSVT:
You can drive it out to the Grand Canyon with me and Rtstabler51.
Mark
Easy Thelma!
Originally posted by WRX Barge:
My car will run less than its current 13.7's by then or I will drive it off a cliff.
I don't think there is any cliffs in Indiana.
Seriously I would like to see a quick WRX (yours). I've raced 2 and a STi and beat them. I want to race one with a good driver.
If all the smacktalkers are a certainty, I may have to roll up there.
I will run the fastest non body kitted SE ever!
Originally posted by MapOfTaziFoShoââ??¢:
I will run the fastest non body kitted SE ever!
IF i bring the SE and the SVT i'ld be more than happy to show some SVT's what up on the track with the SE.....
Originally posted by pole120:
Originally posted by MapOfTaziFoShoââ??¢:
I will run the fastest non body kitted SE ever!
IF i bring the SE and the SVT i'ld be more than happy to show some SVT's what up on the track with the SE.....
Bring it
Mark
Originally posted by LocoGSR:
Originally posted by WRX Barge:
My car will run less than its current 13.7's by then or I will drive it off a cliff.
I don't think there is any cliffs in Indiana.
Seriously I would like to see a quick WRX (yours). I've raced 2 and a STi and beat them. I want to race one with a good driver.
Don't try to flatter me to get me to let my guard down 
My goal of hitting 12's with the stock turbo isnt helping.. be so much easier to just slap a bigger turbo on... but where's the fun in that.
Originally posted by WRX Barge:
Originally posted by LocoGSR:
Originally posted by WRX Barge:
My car will run less than its current 13.7's by then or I will drive it off a cliff.
I don't think there is any cliffs in Indiana.
Seriously I would like to see a quick WRX (yours). I've raced 2 and a STi and beat them. I want to race one with a good driver.
Don't try to flatter me to get me to let my guard down
My goal of hitting 12's with the stock turbo isnt helping.. be so much easier to just slap a bigger turbo on... but where's the fun in that.
Which one? KD04E (something like that )?
Originally posted by pole120:
Originally posted by MapOfTaziFoShoââ??¢:
I will run the fastest non body kitted SE ever!
IF i bring the SE and the SVT i'ld be more than happy to show some SVT's what up on the track with the SE.....
I will back Josh. 15.1 on a SE with stock diff and minimal mods is crazy. I KNOW he will have more by the time SZ comes.
Originally posted by LocoGSR:
Originally posted by WRX Barge:
blah blah blah
Which one? KD04E (something like that )?
TD04-13G is stock
Originally posted by WRX Barge:
Originally posted by LocoGSR:
Originally posted by WRX Barge:
blah blah blah
Which one? KD04E (something like that )?
TD04-13G is stock
Thanks for enlighting me.....now what was the upgrade again?
Should be a good race....all I need is to get rid of these crappy all-seasons before SZ!
Can people that don't run 13's just not post in this thread
Originally posted by WRX Barge:
Can people that don't run 13's just not post in this thread
That would be everyone except for you, warmonger, GTO pete, DemonSVT, BurritaSVT, Buckshot77, I-Dom-In-VIII, and me. NOW, what fun would that be?
An upgrade would be to a similar size turbo as the EVO comes with (the reason "stock" cars can run so fast).
TD05-16g would be my likely upgrade turbo.
Originally posted by LocoGSR:
Originally posted by WRX Barge:
Can people that don't run 13's just not post in this thread
That would be everyone except for you, warmonger, GTO pete, DemonSVT, BurritaSVT, Buckshot77, I-Dom-In-VIII, and me. NOW, what fun would that be?
You have Slips saying that you ran 13's hector?
Originally posted by LocoGSR:
Originally posted by WRX Barge:
Can people that don't run 13's just not post in this thread
That would be everyone except for you, warmonger, GTO pete, DemonSVT, BurritaSVT, Buckshot77, I-Dom-In-VIII, and me. NOW, what fun would that be?
we are talking about 13 min's, right?
Quote:
You have Slips saying that you ran 13's hector?
Jason, I know your a part of "Team Barge", but do you really think Hectors ride isn't going to hit 13's come on now. The comment about "people only runnin' 13's" is silly because in bracket racing its all about consistency, as you all know Personally, I'm going to need to hit Ubly before I run down there as I've never driven a stick car down the track 
I thought I'd share an experience with you guys I had today, inparticular, driving a turbo'd 2.5L CSVT! JD came over today to check out some of the Barrett-Jackson auction (Cabo Wabo
) and I heard a blowoff valve go off, so I knew he was here. I asked right away if the "miss" was out of it that was present when they first got it and and he said yes, so I told him I need to drive it! So I'm going down the road in 2nd gear and just nail it and all of a sudden the thing is wheel hopin', BADLY
I asked him, "is that wheelhop" and he said YEAH! I couldn't believe it because the wheel pulled like it needed an alignment
Even nailing it in 3rd gear you could feel the wheel workin' against you a bit and a slight variation of this in 4th
The showdown at SZ is going to be VERY interesting, but I haven't driven the EVO, yet
Timeslips don't prove anything. Yeah your car ran that time....but if you can duplicate it again when racing the next opponent is what matters. Just in case you didn't understand: If I have a timeslip that says I ran 13.5 and I run a car that has run 13.7, we race and I lose running only a 13.9 to this guys 13.7 I lost, bottom line. In the end times don't mean ****.
As far as racing....I really don't care if I win or lose. In my Contour I lost EVERY race at the track (except a stock Zetec). No sweat off my back. In the end I got to race and that is all that matters to me.
BTW all of you trying to compare your Contours to an Evo....apples and oranges. There are big differences between a $20k new CSVT vs. a $30k new Evo. Honestly even if you put $10k into your Tour....still apples and oranges.
In the end it will be:
CSVT- Touring sports car
Evo- Race car
If you don't believe or can see what I am saying...look at the hardware on the Evo compared to the CSVT.
After reading all of this, it seems like as soon as every shows up to SZ, there is just going to be a brawl...
I doubt some of y'all would even bother with turning the car off.
i wouldnt call a evo a race car...rally car is more like it
Originally posted by Shawnb:
After reading all of this, it seems like as soon as every shows up to SZ, there is just going to be a brawl...
I doubt some of y'all would even bother with turning the car off.
I can't speak for everyone here as I haven't met everyone inperson, but I know this, Hector is about as laid back as they come (I wish I could be more like that ) and will not start anything with anyone. Theres a couple other here though, I wouldn't worry about either. Its not so much that they're "E-thugs", but its alot easier to spit venom here than inperson. The only way this will get completely blown out of proportion is someone says something personal and to quote Clint Eastwood from "Line of Fire"..."thats not going to happen".
With all that being said, I wanna have something like "Pinks" and I'm the host I've got the guys same haircut and personality We need to pick something to race for, other than money, but something they really don't wanna lose, any 's?
Originally posted by Shawnb:
After reading all of this, it seems like as soon as every shows up to SZ, there is just going to be a brawl...
I doubt some of y'all would even bother with turning the car off.
we always talked crap online and a lot of us have been here for a while and either know each other from the board, Or we have met at past SZs, notn is gonna happen its all in fun.
Originally posted by I-Dom-In-VIII:
Originally posted by Shawnb:
After reading all of this, it seems like as soon as every shows up to SZ, there is just going to be a brawl...
I doubt some of y'all would even bother with turning the car off.
we always talked crap online and a lot of us have been here for a while and either know each other from the board, Or we have met at past SZs, notn is gonna happen its all in fun.
you guys both took what he was saying out of text..he talking a "brawl" in the sense of racing,sh!t talking and more racing..he's not saying brawl as in people are you to be putting there dukes up thirty style boxing or anything...but if they do,i want in on it
Originally posted by tour96se:
Originally posted by I-Dom-In-VIII:
Originally posted by Shawnb:
After reading all of this, it seems like as soon as every shows up to SZ, there is just going to be a brawl...
I doubt some of y'all would even bother with turning the car off.
we always talked crap online and a lot of us have been here for a while and either know each other from the board, Or we have met at past SZs, notn is gonna happen its all in fun.
you guys both took what he was saying out of text..he talking a "brawl" in the sense of racing,sh!t talking and more racing..he's not saying brawl as in people are you to be putting there dukes up thirty style boxing or anything...but if they do,i want in on it
Ohh welll in that case i can at least back my stuff up
Originally posted by LocoGSR:
Timeslips don't prove anything. Yeah your car ran that time....but if you can duplicate it again when racing the next opponent is what matters. Just in case you didn't understand: If I have a timeslip that says I ran 13.5 and I run a car that has run 13.7, we race and I lose running only a 13.9 to this guys 13.7 I lost, bottom line. In the end times don't mean ****.
As far as racing....I really don't care if I win or lose. In my Contour I lost EVERY race at the track (except a stock Zetec). No sweat off my back. In the end I got to race and that is all that matters to me.
BTW all of you trying to compare your Contours to an Evo....apples and oranges. There are big differences between a $20k new CSVT vs. a $30k new Evo. Honestly even if you put $10k into your Tour....still apples and oranges.
In the end it will be:
CSVT- Touring sports car
Evo- Race car
If you don't believe or can see what I am saying...look at the hardware on the Evo compared to the CSVT.
LOL you crack me up....
All I asked for was a 13's slip since your claimin that.
Just because Motor Trend drivers run a 13.8 doesn't mean you will.
Originally posted by LocoGSR:
Timeslips don't prove anything. Yeah your car ran that time....but if you can duplicate it again when racing the next opponent is what matters. Just in case you didn't understand: If I have a timeslip that says I ran 13.5 and I run a car that has run 13.7, we race and I lose running only a 13.9 to this guys 13.7 I lost, bottom line. In the end times don't mean ****.
As far as racing....I really don't care if I win or lose. In my Contour I lost EVERY race at the track (except a stock Zetec). No sweat off my back. In the end I got to race and that is all that matters to me.
BTW all of you trying to compare your Contours to an Evo....apples and oranges. There are big differences between a $20k new CSVT vs. a $30k new Evo. Honestly even if you put $10k into your Tour....still apples and oranges.
In the end it will be:
CSVT- Touring sports car
Evo- Race car
If you don't believe or can see what I am saying...look at the hardware on the Evo compared to the CSVT.
No, you are right about the hardware. Even if I match the engine and suspension mods, the AWD and cool differential setups of the EVO are still far advanced. It would take putting in the Jag AWD system or Mondeo AWD system with some tweaking to make the contour into something that could beat the evo in all areas.
But, as far as straight times, I ran 13.9s very consistently with it all the time on the old stock width, street tires all the time. It was harder to drop down in the 13.8s on those same tires due to traction problems and therefore the consistency wasn't there.
So I agree with you on one had that ONE timeslip doesn't mean you'll win, but on the other hand I think if it is pretty consistent then it is a perfect indicator of who will win.
Which by the way, will be ME if I go.
lol
Originally posted by SteedaSVTââ??¢:
LOL you crack me up....
All I asked for was a 13's slip since your claimin that.
Just because Motor Trend drivers run a 13.8 doesn't mean you will.
Well since the magazines are putting down better than 13.8 down in a stock Evo......13.8 shouldn't be far fetched IF I drive like ass and since my car is modded. I have a friend who ran her 03 Evo STOCK....13.7. Give me a break Steeda.
BTW since I know you aren't bringing anything good to run at the track I will get you some pom-poms so you can cheer for WRXBarge.
Oh I found you some: 
I like that idea... I need a squad of cheerleaders.. Steeda can be the head Pom-Pom girl.
I honestly don't care if I win or lose either... because I'll have fun either way.
Warmonger.... 13.9 @ 109... me... 13.7 @ 99 :P Hah... Need more Powa.
LMAO!
My svt will probably be castrated by SZ so I won't be able to join the festivities.
Originally posted by LocoGSR:
Originally posted by SteedaSVTââ??¢:
LOL you crack me up....
All I asked for was a 13's slip since your claimin that.
Just because Motor Trend drivers run a 13.8 doesn't mean you will.
Well since the magazines are putting down better than 13.8 down in a stock Evo......13.8 shouldn't be far fetched IF I drive like ass and since my car is modded. I have a friend who ran her 03 Evo STOCK....13.7. Give me a break Steeda.
BTW since I know you aren't bringing anything good to run at the track I will get you some pom-poms so you can cheer for WRXBarge.
Oh I found you some:
Ill buy a 4cly buy then im sure wanna race?
I really don't care who wins it just think its kinda cheesy that you don't have your pos zetec anymore now your all high and mighty. Give me a break. Like i couldn't go out and take out a loan for a car. But ya im good
We'll see what happens at SZ. and i don't need pom poms so you can cram them in your cramhole!
Quote:
Just because Motor Trend drivers run a 13.8 doesn't mean you will.
Jason, you really don't believe his car is going to run 14-teen something do you I know you gotta go out there and do it, but come on now As far as calling his Zetec a POS, too bad you didn't drive in it or you might think differently, but then again, you don't give ANY Zetec any credit Hector isn't acting "high and mighty" about his car, but then again, when you have the King of all SCC's, you don't need to act, you are!
King of all SCC's is a pretty strong comment... if everyone thought that way you wouldn't see nearly as many WRX's and STI's around.
Originally posted by SteedaSVTââ??¢:
Originally posted by LocoGSR:
Originally posted by SteedaSVTââ??¢:
LOL you crack me up....
All I asked for was a 13's slip since your claimin that.
Just because Motor Trend drivers run a 13.8 doesn't mean you will.
Well since the magazines are putting down better than 13.8 down in a stock Evo......13.8 shouldn't be far fetched IF I drive like ass and since my car is modded. I have a friend who ran her 03 Evo STOCK....13.7. Give me a break Steeda.
BTW since I know you aren't bringing anything good to run at the track I will get you some pom-poms so you can cheer for WRXBarge.
Oh I found you some:
Ill buy a 4cly buy then im sure wanna race?
I really don't care who wins it just think its kinda cheesy that you don't have your pos zetec anymore now your all high and mighty. Give me a break. Like i couldn't go out and take out a loan for a car. But ya im good
We'll see what happens at SZ. and i don't need pom poms so you can cram them in your cramhole!
High and mighty? You are posting in a thread you aren't going to take place in. Like I posted before you are all talk; just a cheerleader.
POS Zetec? My POS Zetec's blower setup cost more than your badass $2500 SVT. I've done more with the Contour than you have even thought of.... Once you have put in the time and money that I have into a Tour....we can talk.
As far as the Evo being the king of SCCs......I have to agree. The Evolution has a following like no other SCC and performance to boot. EvoM.net alone has over 30k members all over the world. The only reason there are more WRXs and STis on the road is because they were released 2 years before the Evo and they are cheaper (especially the first years).
SZ06 will be interesting.
Ya your cool Sc'd zetec was amazing...
and just so you know I have owned 2 SVT's one of them costing 17k since it seems to play an important factor in this. Time? Your joking i hope, WTF did you do? You need to open your eyes. Im not some [censored] newb. So the cost of my car doesn't exactly play a factor. I guess becuase i got a good deal its a problem?
As stated before i could go get a loan if i wanted to. I would be buying a Lightning, im pretty sure a evo is faster than one of them also correct?
You've done more? WHy cuase your obviously highly intelligent to sink money into a Zetec/auto right? Sure!!!!!
Dream on! and the STI would be the king of the SCC's but becuase your hero roger said the evo is then its cool!
and maybe i will run at SZ but i don't see a point it in since i don't get anything out of drag racing.
You can start preparing your list of excuses now why you lost to barge in his WRX though..
Originally posted by SteedaSVTââ??¢:
Ya your cool Sc'd zetec was amazing...
and just so you know I have owned 2 SVT's one of them costing 17k since it seems to play an important factor in this. Time? Your joking i hope, WTF did you do? You need to open your eyes. Im not some [censored] newb.
You've done more? WHy cuase your obviously highly intelligent to sink money into a Zetec/auto right? Sure!!!!!
Dream on! and the STI would be the king of the SCC's but becuase your hero roger said the evo is then its cool!
and maybe i will run at SZ but i don't see a point it in since i don't get anything out of drag racing.
You can start preparing your list of excuses now why you lost to barge in his WRX though..
Your post here proves your intelligence.
I modded my Zetec auto to because I wanted to. I didn't mod it for anybody but myself. People like you would/could never understand that.
The whole Evo vs STi is lame. You like what you like....BUT, if your boy Barge had an Evo you'd be cheering for Mitsu.
I will see the REAL racer at the track....Derek.
I like the EVO, honestly more than the WRX but your attitude since you got the EVO is lame!
Originally posted by LocoGSR:
The whole Evo vs STi is lame. You like what you like....BUT, if your boy Barge had an Evo you'd be cheering for Mitsu.
Somebody's gotta cheer for the underdog (and I think I would be considered the underdog in my little ol WRX... the Subaru SE Sport).
Just wanna "air out some facts here"...
Hectors ATX/Zetec ran in the 18's stock, then, he did alot of work to it, including a Jackson Racing S/C'er and by the time he was done with it, he cut THREE seconds off of his 1/4 mile times, has anyone done that with a CSVT, the obvious better starting platform than the Zetec
IMO going from an 18 second car to a 15 second car is pretty good and those are just facts you can't deny Jason. I haven't seen any CSVT's runnin' mid to high 12's yet, maybe it will happen at SZ06', who knows
I haven't noticed Hector acting high and mighty at all and he never fired the first salvo about this either, check out the locked thread and you'll see. I think when you look at what Hector has brought to the table when doing his old ride, its paved the way for alot of other guys, who may be younger and not have alot of money, who also may happen to have "just a Zetec" to get SVT perf out of it for a couple thousand dollars invested. Think about what you can get a Zetec Tour for these days and the kind of people you'll get them from, sounds like a pretty good idea to me!
BTW Jason, I'm not a hero and I'm not a role model
The problem with using that logic is it is infinitely easier to make a car go from 18's to 15's then from 15's to 12's. Much less power gain required to do so! Not to mention no traction issues at that low of a power level.
Plus the whole fact that 15's are not remotely quick at all. My wife's 4cyl ATX Cavalier could crack 15's when bone stock. (Just barely but 15's none-the-less) I would not rate it quick in my book. Great gas mileage and very reliable but not a fast car worth bragging about. Now if Hector did all those mods to his Zetec himself (IIRC) then that fact is definitely worth bragging about! The ET or its improvement is not though.
Originally posted by DemonSVT:
The problem with using that logic is it is infinitely easier to make a car go from 18's to 15's then from 15's to 12's. Much less power gain required to do so! Not to mention no traction issues at that low of a power level.
Exactly what I was thinking. By Roger's logic, 03 Cobras running 12.8's stock, should be able to run 9.8's with a few grand thrown at it. I know that comparing 03 Cobras to an ATX Zetec Contour are apples to oranges, but so is comparing an ATX Zetec Contour to an SVT Contour. Taking a second off your 1/4 mile time is a LOT easier when we're talking 18's to 17's, than 12's to 11's.
Mark
Point well taken guys, its been some time since I've been personally involved with getting something down into the 12's from the mid 14's
I guess I'm just saying Hector isn't getting his props for what he actually did with the car, thats all. I've been in the car and thought it moved out pretty well and on the freeway, well, it ran VERY well
Now, about the EVO vs. WRX! I thought about something, something that hasn't really been talked about and thats the cheerleading thing
Derek not only has Steeda at his disposal, but PAWS as well and I for one don't think thats all too fair
I "even things up", I'm going to need to apply an "aerodynamic package" to the EVO while its here for the D&B's meet, say 4 coats of acrylic and caranuba! That should do the trick
Ya its gonna need it..
cuase teh WRX is gonna "wax dat ass!" get it!
and when you have the amount of time i have wrapped up into a car one would assume you would cheer for it.
We could meet at Skunkworks an hour before, "take care of business" and then head to the meet
Originally posted by The EX- Striped SVT:
We could meet at Skunkworks an hour before, "take care of business" and then head to the meet
hahahha....for some stress relief
Originally posted by DemonSVT:
The problem with using that logic is it is infinitely easier to make a car go from 18's to 15's then from 15's to 12's. Much less power gain required to do so! Not to mention no traction issues at that low of a power level.
Plus the whole fact that 15's are not remotely quick at all. My wife's 4cyl ATX Cavalier could crack 15's when bone stock. (Just barely but 15's none-the-less) I would not rate it quick in my book. Great gas mileage and very reliable but not a fast car worth bragging about. Now if Hector did all those mods to his Zetec himself (IIRC) then that fact is definitely worth bragging about! The ET or its improvement is not though.
I did all the mods (everything except exhaust).
Question? Why does it matter that the car ran 15s? I improved my quarter mile time 3 seconds from stock and again the car gets bashed and put down. 3 seconds is 3 seconds despite traction or other "issues" associated with high horsepower cars. I never claimed the car was fast but a HELL of a lot faster than stock. I worked with what I had and it paid off.
Come on Demon, I would expect better from you. Saying that your wife's Cavy ran 15s stock (comparing it to my modded Zetec). That is like saying you put all this money into your modded SVT and it only runs 13s......then comparing it to my car which runs 13's stock.
Hector,
I think you're taking it the wrong way. I've seen your old Tour, and thought it was badass. I know what sort of effort it took, as I've been on here reading every one of your posts about fitment issues, tuning issues, etc. The only thing I argued was Roger's comment. Just stating that it's a lot of time to take off, but 3 seconds isn't 3 seconds when it comes to 1/4 mile times. 3 seconds off of a 20 second car, and 3 seconds off of a 10 second car are two totally different things. You know that, and it doesn't make the work you put into your Tour, any less respectable.
I wasn't referring to any vehicles imparticular with the 20 and 10 second comments. Just stating in general.
Mark
Yeah, I agree with your viewpoint Mark.
The work you did Hector was great! It made a zetec ATX run with a base SVT. But getting times lower is like raising the volume on your stereo, it is progressively more difficult and expensive the more you go.
Originally posted by warmonger:
Yeah, I agree with your viewpoint Mark.
The work you did Hector was great! It made a zetec ATX run with a base SVT. But getting times lower is like raising the volume on your stereo, it is progressively more difficult and expensive the more you go.
Very well put and VERY, VERY true about getting a car to go faster as you go down in E.T.'s. I guess the best example is if you have say an F-body that runs its mid 13's stock, then, do a couple bolt-ons and it runs into the 12's and then you wanna go 11's w/o the use of NOS or S/C'er, although those would be the easiest routes. So even if you did the S/C'er or NOS, then look at what it takes to go into the low 11's/high 10's...$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ and then you have to worry about breakage and building up the rearend to an 9" Ford, changing out stalls, etc. I'm glad those days are long behind me, been there, done that, now its time for canyon carving and cruizin'
It's a matter of power. Give an 18 second Contour an extra 50HP and you can take 3 seconds off of it's 1/4 mile time. Give a mid 13 second F-body 50HP and hope for low 13's. I'm sure someone will give some sort of equation to figure out how much HP it takes to drop X seconds off your ET, depending on stock power.
Mark
Originally posted by PurpleMystique:
They have...
Google is your friend.
I played with that. Defintely not a solid calculator. 195hp was good for a 16.0, to hit a 15.0 you needed 231hp. Somethings a-miss there, a stock 195hp CSVT will pull a 15.4, and I know my last ride was pulling 15.0's and wasn't pushing 231hp, probably closer to 200hp and 225ft/lbs. Interesting little toy though.
Thanks.....and well said guys.
Originally posted by SteedaSVTââ??¢:
LOL!
Just face it, my Slushbox owns all.
Originally posted by Pre98:
Just face it, my Slushbox owns all.
bill, wanna race out there?
I'll run you and make my T/C light flash in second gear too
Originally posted by The EX- Striped SVT:
I'll run you and make my T/C light flash in second gear too
Traction Control? Who needs that?
Originally posted by The EX- Striped SVT:
I'll run you and make my T/C light flash in second gear too
..you dont want none of this
Originally posted by LocoGSR:
Traction Control? Who needs that?
Traction Control. Power windows. Cruise control. Who needs any of that?
I only got to page 6 of this thread and then got bored of reading. I've thought this through and have carefully chosen what I want my post to say:
I will embarass anyone in this thread from a roll. At the track assuming I get below a 2.1 60' time, I will beat every last one of you. I drive a Neon. Who wants some?
Ok Ryan, I'll run you from a 100 roll up to 150
Would you expect to win? Oh Roger, you were always a kidder.
Originally posted by RyeLou:
I only got to page 6 of this thread and then got bored of reading. I've thought this through and have carefully chosen what I want my post to say:
I will embarass anyone in this thread from a roll. At the track assuming I get below a 2.1 60' time, I will beat every last one of you. I drive a Neon. Who wants some?
Be careful with such bold comments... SZ is a ways away yet.
Don't make me put you in your place again, Derek.
Originally posted by RyeLou:
I only got to page 6 of this thread and then got bored of reading. I've thought this through and have carefully chosen what I want my post to say:
I will embarass anyone in this thread from a roll. At the track assuming I get below a 2.1 60' time, I will beat every last one of you. I drive a Neon. Who wants some?
Hahahahahahahhahahahahahahah
Bwahahahahahahahahahahah LMAO
Originally posted by warmonger:
Originally posted by RyeLou:
I only got to page 6 of this thread and then got bored of reading. I've thought this through and have carefully chosen what I want my post to say:
I will embarass anyone in this thread from a roll. At the track assuming I get below a 2.1 60' time, I will beat every last one of you. I drive a Neon. Who wants some?
Hahahahahahahhahahahahahahah
Bwahahahahahahahahahahah LMAO
Does that mean you're both coming to spring zing? Jim and mark know a bitchin highway out that way. (sub 65 mph side by side driving of course)
Originally posted by warmonger:
Hahahahahahahhahahahahahahah
Bwahahahahahahahahahahah LMAO
Originally posted by Pudmunkie:
Does that mean you're both coming to spring zing? Jim and mark know a bitchin highway out that way. (sub 65 mph side by side driving of course)
I'm not sure yet. The Mid-West SRT's nationals are the same weekend. They rented out Norwalk and have a few other things.
Originally posted by RyeLou:
Would you expect to win? Oh Roger, you were always a kidder.
Ooh....a SRT-4 jumping in the lions den!
Yep, lets hear all the "It's just a Neon" comments.
Yeah man, its Just a Neon!!
Looks sort like cat food to the rest of us cats....
Originally posted by RyeLou:
Yep, lets hear all the "It's just a Neon" comments.
I am surprised I haven't heard "It's just a Lancer!"
Cat food that eats back, right?
Dude, very bold statement, you're not modded enough to say you'll eat everybody from a roll. I will run you to see what happens. I don't plan on losing.
Originally posted by BStoneMega:
Dude, very bold statement, you're not modded enough to say you'll eat everybody from a roll. I will run you to see what happens. I don't plan on losing.
He lives in fantasy island with the other SRT-4 clowns
Originally posted by BStoneMega:
Dude, very bold statement, you're not modded enough to say you'll eat everybody from a roll. I will run you to see what happens. I don't plan on losing.
I was more or less just running my mouth like everyone else was. However, I do believe I'd be the winner from the people I've seen post in here. I have had the chance to meet up with a turbo CSVT, so I'm not basing this off nothing. I won't post details. I don't know if you have anything done to your Evo or not (and I also hadn't seen you post in this thread yet anyhow), but if you're stock you really don't stand a chance from a roll. If you're modified it's obviously a whole other story.
In my own defense, I think I'm plenty modded enough to talk the talk. 300whp and 365wtq on 94 gas
Can't wait for the spring modding to begin... plans are already being laid out... will they be completed in time? and what are these mysterious spring time mods? only time will tell.
Barge we should discuss things. The only thing restricting my HP is the turbo now...so the turbo is next to go. I've been debating S3 or other aftermarket, but with my fuel set-up I'm leaning towards other aftermarket. I could get S3 and sell a fair amount of what I have...but then I need to go through the process of pulling everything back off and putting some of the same stuff with a Mopar name on. The discussion with you would be about how you get to do all of the work and I just get to enjoy the results.
Ill race another v6 auto or a I-4(non turbo!!!) stick...just throwing in my 2 cents
I may ask for a slight headstart against warmonger.
Originally posted by LocoGSR:
Originally posted by RyeLou:
Yep, lets hear all the "It's just a Neon" comments.
I am surprised I haven't heard "It's just a Lancer!"
Thats because it only shares the Lancers roof and trunk IIRC
Originally posted by SCC:
Even though the badge clearly says "lancer" Evolution, seeing the distinct silhouette of the EVO's blistered fenders coming down the line sprinkled between the masses of lancer sedans, wagons and Outlander SUVs is a total let down. the realization of how much the EVO has in commonwith the plebian of mitsubishi transports makes you wonder if the car really is all its cracked up to be. ..... Outside of the aluminum parts, the EVO uses differnt stampings for the rear floor section that are designed specifically to fit over the differential, rear suspension, and tubbed out fenders of the EVO. The body frame, interal side structures, main floor and tailgate are all identical to the lancer.
Thanks. I probably have more trouble launching than you do since your car weighs less than mine.
I don't know, I rather took a liking to the EVO's looks, esp. the MR version.
My best 60' is a 2.0, which is fairly sad in the SRT community. I haven't kept up to date on the CSVT 60' times, but I think on average they're a bit higher than that. With slicks some of the SRT guys are hitting as low as 1.6!
Originally posted by warmonger:
I don't know, I rather took a liking to the EVO's looks, esp. the MR version.
Ditto. I'm a big fan. I often switch between which I like more (Evo vs STI), but lately I'm on the Evo side.
I like the Evo from the front and some side shots but I think the rear looks like poop.
Of course I don't think the WRX is that great looking either... it's what's under the sheetmetal that attracted me. I'd much rather have a RWD turbo charged contour
Originally posted by WRX Barge:
I like the Evo from the front and some side shots but I think the rear looks like poop.
Of course I don't think the WRX is that great looking either... it's what's under the sheetmetal that attracted me. I'd much rather have a RWD turbo charged contour
LOL.....I would have gone the 03-04 Cobra route if it wasn't for the snow in IL. So I got something that was "all-season!"
"Factory aftermarket", good idea Hector
Looks like Hector is coming to town a day early, maybe we could just say...SATURDAY, SATURDAY, SATURDAY
What do you think Derek and Ryelou
I work Saturday until 5pm. I could potentially do something after, but I'm not sure. I was thinking the meet was this Friday, not Sunday. I can't believe you guys are doing it on Superbowl day. Anyhow, I plan on showing up to the meet at least for a little bit still. I have to head to Port Huron though, but D&B can be on the way so it's not a huge deal to stop for a few minutes. I can't guarantee the car will be clean, but for those that ever saw my CSVT you shouldn't expect anything else.
Having the meet on this day has been a tradition for about 4 years now and is perfect because whats going on that time before the Superbowl other than a very lame and VERY long pre-game show
I call it great time management! I sent you a PM Ryan about Saturday and didn't realize you work till 5:00 p.m. and I'm not sure where/what we'll be doing then, so give me a buzz
Originally posted by The EX- Striped SVT:
So, where were we....
Roger...you are a total rable rouser!
Originally posted by MapOfTaziFoShoââ??¢:
Originally posted by The EX- Striped SVT:
So, where were we....
Roger...you are a total rable rouser!
..wtf....................^^^^^^^^^^????? must be a midwestern term
Originally posted by MapOfTaziFoShoââ??¢:
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=rabble+rouser
...guess it just hasnt reached central new york yet..
Would you prefer we called him a punk b!tch?! LOL
Actually, "rable rouser" is a term used by the pre-baby boomer generation, but it makes sense that Pete's using it, afterall, he does have a LeSabre w/ white walls
Back on topic, I'm calling you out Pete, I'm going to take your 3.0L out
Originally posted by The EX- Striped SVT:
Actually, "rable rouser" is a term used by the pre-baby boomer generation, but it makes sense that Pete's using it, afterall, he does have a LeSabre w/ white walls
Back on topic, I'm calling you out Pete, I'm going to take your 3.0L out
Originally posted by MapOfTaziFoShoââ??¢:
Originally posted by The EX- Striped SVT:
Actually, "rable rouser" is a term used by the pre-baby boomer generation, but it makes sense that Pete's using it, afterall, he does have a LeSabre w/ white walls
Back on topic, I'm calling you out Pete, I'm going to take your 3.0L out
HAHAHAHA
Roger doesn't wanna race me i guess?
Sure, no problem Jason, but you said you didn't want to that to this car because it doesn't have the ESP like your first one did. I'm going to put about 3 cars on your
Originally posted by The EX- Striped SVT:
I'm going to put about 3 cars on your
im sure you will
I have the Ebay intake mod
Originally posted by SteedaSVTââ??¢:
Originally posted by The EX- Striped SVT:
I'm going to put about 3 cars on your
im sure you will
I have the Ebay intake mod
I have the "turn off the T/C" option
Originally posted by The EX- Striped SVT:
Originally posted by SteedaSVTââ??¢:
Originally posted by The EX- Striped SVT:
I'm going to put about 3 cars on your
im sure you will
I have the Ebay intake mod
I have the "turn off the T/C" option
Make sure you take your alzhiemers pills that day soo you remember
"I live my life a quarter mile at a time"
Originally posted by The EX- Striped SVT:
"I live my life a quarter mile at a time"
"In between those 15-20 seconds, I'm free"
it don't matter if you lose by a mile...or two, losing is losing.
Originally posted by The EX- Striped SVT:
"I live my life a quarter mile at a time"
have you ever driven a Manual car at the Strip? Cause i hear alot of talk about ATX cars and you
Originally posted by SteedaSVTââ??¢:
Originally posted by The EX- Striped SVT:
"I live my life a quarter mile at a time"
have you ever driven a Manual car at the Strip? Cause i hear alot of talk about ATX cars and you
yeah, I really liked that you criticized my times at the track when your first time was in an AT dodge dakota...gimme a break.
Originally posted by MapOfTaziFoShoââ??¢:
Originally posted by SteedaSVTââ??¢:
Originally posted by The EX- Striped SVT:
"I live my life a quarter mile at a time"
have you ever driven a Manual car at the Strip? Cause i hear alot of talk about ATX cars and you
yeah, I really liked that you criticized my times at the track when your first time was in an AT dodge dakota...gimme a break.
I don't recall critizing you Pete, are you sure your not just being your over sensitive self Either way, I'll be ready for your 3.0L Pete as well as your CSVT Steeda, even if its got the Ebay intake
I prob am...
I don't know what to expect out of my car or more importantly, my driving skills at the drags with a stick car but I do know this, I'll give it my best
your gonna get crushed! Better ask your wife if you can use some of your kids Savings bonds
If you think im joking we can put money on it?
Originally posted by SteedaSVTââ??¢:
your gonna get crushed! Better ask your wife if you can use some of your kids Savings bonds
If you think im joking we can put money on it?
Give me a break Steeda......your gonna need a tow truck to get home after your diff breaks!
Originally posted by LocoGSR:
Originally posted by SteedaSVTââ??¢:
your gonna get crushed! Better ask your wife if you can use some of your kids Savings bonds
If you think im joking we can put money on it?
Give me a break Steeda......your gonna need a tow truck to get home after your diff breaks!
I won't even launch hard and ill win. Roger can't drive its a known fact
Originally posted by SteedaSVTââ??¢:
Originally posted by LocoGSR:
Originally posted by SteedaSVTââ??¢:
your gonna get crushed! Better ask your wife if you can use some of your kids Savings bonds
If you think im joking we can put money on it?
Give me a break Steeda......your gonna need a tow truck to get home after your diff breaks!
I won't even launch hard and ill win. Roger can't drive its a known fact
I know otherwise......but you will find out soon enough.
Originally posted by LocoGSR:
Originally posted by SteedaSVTââ??¢:
Originally posted by LocoGSR:
Originally posted by SteedaSVTââ??¢:
your gonna get crushed! Better ask your wife if you can use some of your kids Savings bonds
If you think im joking we can put money on it?
Give me a break Steeda......your gonna need a tow truck to get home after your diff breaks!
I won't even launch hard and ill win. Roger can't drive its a known fact
I know otherwise......but you will find out soon enough.
and he will find out some stuff too
are you next on the list?
Originally posted by SteedaSVTââ??¢:
Originally posted by LocoGSR:
Originally posted by SteedaSVTââ??¢:
Originally posted by LocoGSR:
Originally posted by SteedaSVTââ??¢:
your gonna get crushed! Better ask your wife if you can use some of your kids Savings bonds
If you think im joking we can put money on it?
Give me a break Steeda......your gonna need a tow truck to get home after your diff breaks!
I won't even launch hard and ill win. Roger can't drive its a known fact
I know otherwise......but you will find out soon enough.
and he will find out some stuff too
are you next on the list?
I can take off Grandpa style and beat you.....gonna need more than that cheap intake mod and ghetto exhaust!
Originally posted by LocoGSR:
Originally posted by SteedaSVTââ??¢:
Originally posted by LocoGSR:
Originally posted by SteedaSVTââ??¢:
Originally posted by LocoGSR:
Originally posted by SteedaSVTââ??¢:
your gonna get crushed! Better ask your wife if you can use some of your kids Savings bonds
If you think im joking we can put money on it?
Give me a break Steeda......your gonna need a tow truck to get home after your diff breaks!
I won't even launch hard and ill win. Roger can't drive its a known fact
I know otherwise......but you will find out soon enough.
and he will find out some stuff too
are you next on the list?
I can take off Grandpa style and beat you.....gonna need more than that cheap intake mod and ghetto exhaust!
I wouldn't be soo cocky there, tough guy
But we'll leave it at that.
and Ghetto exhuast? ya brullen ypipe and Basanni Def Ghetto
Originally posted by SteedaSVTââ??¢:
and he will find out some stuff too
are you next on the list?
wanna add me to that list, pumpkin? maybe we can make it monetarily interesting
Originally posted by SteedaSVTââ??¢:
Originally posted by LocoGSR:
Originally posted by SteedaSVTââ??¢:
Originally posted by LocoGSR:
Originally posted by SteedaSVTââ??¢:
Originally posted by LocoGSR:
Originally posted by SteedaSVTââ??¢:
your gonna get crushed! Better ask your wife if you can use some of your kids Savings bonds
If you think im joking we can put money on it?
Give me a break Steeda......your gonna need a tow truck to get home after your diff breaks!
I won't even launch hard and ill win. Roger can't drive its a known fact
I know otherwise......but you will find out soon enough.
and he will find out some stuff too
are you next on the list?
I can take off Grandpa style and beat you.....gonna need more than that cheap intake mod and ghetto exhaust!
I wouldn't be soo cocky there, tough guy
But we'll leave it at that.
and Ghetto exhuast? ya brullen ypipe and Basanni Def Ghetto
Cocky? Just stating the truth.....you will need nitrous to even stay with me.
As far as your exhaust.....it looks ghetto..... I should know...I am the king of ghetto exhausts on the Contour.
Originally posted by LocoGSR:
Originally posted by SteedaSVTââ??¢:
Originally posted by LocoGSR:
Originally posted by SteedaSVTââ??¢:
Originally posted by LocoGSR:
Originally posted by SteedaSVTââ??¢:
Originally posted by LocoGSR:
Originally posted by SteedaSVTââ??¢:
your gonna get crushed! Better ask your wife if you can use some of your kids Savings bonds
If you think im joking we can put money on it?
Give me a break Steeda......your gonna need a tow truck to get home after your diff breaks!
I won't even launch hard and ill win. Roger can't drive its a known fact
I know otherwise......but you will find out soon enough.
and he will find out some stuff too
are you next on the list?
I can take off Grandpa style and beat you.....gonna need more than that cheap intake mod and ghetto exhaust!
I wouldn't be soo cocky there, tough guy
But we'll leave it at that.
and Ghetto exhuast? ya brullen ypipe and Basanni Def Ghetto
Cocky? Just stating the truth.....you will need nitrous to even stay with me.
As far as your exhaust.....it looks ghetto..... I should know...I am the king of ghetto exhausts on the Contour.
ya coming from the Guy with the Ghetto Zetec? Dream on..
Worry about Barge and when i beat you, you can go kill yourself cuase i beat you with my POS as you so stated
Originally posted by SteedaSVTââ??¢:
Originally posted by LocoGSR:
Originally posted by SteedaSVTââ??¢:
Originally posted by LocoGSR:
Originally posted by SteedaSVTââ??¢:
Originally posted by LocoGSR:
Originally posted by SteedaSVTââ??¢:
Originally posted by LocoGSR:
Originally posted by SteedaSVTââ??¢:
your gonna get crushed! Better ask your wife if you can use some of your kids Savings bonds
If you think im joking we can put money on it?
Give me a break Steeda......your gonna need a tow truck to get home after your diff breaks!
I won't even launch hard and ill win. Roger can't drive its a known fact
I know otherwise......but you will find out soon enough.
and he will find out some stuff too
are you next on the list?
I can take off Grandpa style and beat you.....gonna need more than that cheap intake mod and ghetto exhaust!
I wouldn't be soo cocky there, tough guy
But we'll leave it at that.
and Ghetto exhuast? ya brullen ypipe and Basanni Def Ghetto
Cocky? Just stating the truth.....you will need nitrous to even stay with me.
As far as your exhaust.....it looks ghetto..... I should know...I am the king of ghetto exhausts on the Contour.
ya coming from the Guy with the Ghetto Zetec? Dream on..
Worry about Barge and when i beat you, you can go kill yourself cuase i beat you with my POS as you so stated
Ghetto Zetec....I doubt your SVT makes what my Zetec made on the dyno.
Originally posted by LocoGSR:
Originally posted by SteedaSVTââ??¢:
Originally posted by LocoGSR:
Originally posted by SteedaSVTââ??¢:
Originally posted by LocoGSR:
Originally posted by SteedaSVTââ??¢:
Originally posted by LocoGSR:
Originally posted by SteedaSVTââ??¢:
Originally posted by LocoGSR:
Originally posted by SteedaSVTââ??¢:
your gonna get crushed! Better ask your wife if you can use some of your kids Savings bonds
If you think im joking we can put money on it?
Give me a break Steeda......your gonna need a tow truck to get home after your diff breaks!
I won't even launch hard and ill win. Roger can't drive its a known fact
I know otherwise......but you will find out soon enough.
and he will find out some stuff too
are you next on the list?
I can take off Grandpa style and beat you.....gonna need more than that cheap intake mod and ghetto exhaust!
I wouldn't be soo cocky there, tough guy
But we'll leave it at that.
and Ghetto exhuast? ya brullen ypipe and Basanni Def Ghetto
Cocky? Just stating the truth.....you will need nitrous to even stay with me.
As far as your exhaust.....it looks ghetto..... I should know...I am the king of ghetto exhausts on the Contour.
ya coming from the Guy with the Ghetto Zetec? Dream on..
Worry about Barge and when i beat you, you can go kill yourself cuase i beat you with my POS as you so stated
Ghetto Zetec....I doubt your SVT makes what my Zetec made on the dyno.
HAHAHAHAHAHA now your dreaming!!!!!!
Ill make over 185fwhp if you wanna question it look at barges 183fwhp then add the stuff i have that he didn't.
I wish i could live in your fantasy world it would be interesting.
Maybe ill just take out a loan and Crush everyone there?
Originally posted by LocoGSR:
Originally posted by SteedaSVTââ??¢:
Originally posted by LocoGSR:
Originally posted by SteedaSVTââ??¢:
Originally posted by LocoGSR:
Originally posted by SteedaSVTââ??¢:
Originally posted by LocoGSR:
Originally posted by SteedaSVTââ??¢:
Originally posted by LocoGSR:
Originally posted by SteedaSVTââ??¢:
your gonna get crushed! Better ask your wife if you can use some of your kids Savings bonds
If you think im joking we can put money on it?
Give me a break Steeda......your gonna need a tow truck to get home after your diff breaks!
I won't even launch hard and ill win. Roger can't drive its a known fact
I know otherwise......but you will find out soon enough.
and he will find out some stuff too
are you next on the list?
I can take off Grandpa style and beat you.....gonna need more than that cheap intake mod and ghetto exhaust!
I wouldn't be soo cocky there, tough guy
But we'll leave it at that.
and Ghetto exhuast? ya brullen ypipe and Basanni Def Ghetto
Cocky? Just stating the truth.....you will need nitrous to even stay with me.
As far as your exhaust.....it looks ghetto..... I should know...I am the king of ghetto exhausts on the Contour.
ya coming from the Guy with the Ghetto Zetec? Dream on..
Worry about Barge and when i beat you, you can go kill yourself cuase i beat you with my POS as you so stated
Ghetto Zetec....I doubt your SVT makes what my Zetec made on the dyno.
Yet his SVT would still run better 1/4 mile times than your zetec.
Originally posted by SteedaSVTââ??¢:
Originally posted by LocoGSR:
Originally posted by SteedaSVTââ??¢:
Originally posted by LocoGSR:
Originally posted by SteedaSVTââ??¢:
Originally posted by LocoGSR:
Originally posted by SteedaSVTââ??¢:
Originally posted by LocoGSR:
Originally posted by SteedaSVTââ??¢:
Originally posted by LocoGSR:
Originally posted by SteedaSVTââ??¢:
your gonna get crushed! Better ask your wife if you can use some of your kids Savings bonds
If you think im joking we can put money on it?
Give me a break Steeda......your gonna need a tow truck to get home after your diff breaks!
I won't even launch hard and ill win. Roger can't drive its a known fact
I know otherwise......but you will find out soon enough.
and he will find out some stuff too
are you next on the list?
I can take off Grandpa style and beat you.....gonna need more than that cheap intake mod and ghetto exhaust!
I wouldn't be soo cocky there, tough guy
But we'll leave it at that.
and Ghetto exhuast? ya brullen ypipe and Basanni Def Ghetto
Cocky? Just stating the truth.....you will need nitrous to even stay with me.
As far as your exhaust.....it looks ghetto..... I should know...I am the king of ghetto exhausts on the Contour.
ya coming from the Guy with the Ghetto Zetec? Dream on..
Worry about Barge and when i beat you, you can go kill yourself cuase i beat you with my POS as you so stated
Ghetto Zetec....I doubt your SVT makes what my Zetec made on the dyno.
HAHAHAHAHAHA now your dreaming!!!!!!
Ill make over 185fwhp if you wanna question it look at barges 183fwhp then add the stuff i have that he didn't.
I wish i could live in your fantasy world it would be interesting.
Maybe ill just take out a loan and Crush everyone there?
Um where are your car's dyno graphs?
Originally posted by LocoGSR:
Originally posted by SteedaSVTââ??¢:
Originally posted by LocoGSR:
Originally posted by SteedaSVTââ??¢:
Originally posted by LocoGSR:
Originally posted by SteedaSVTââ??¢:
Originally posted by LocoGSR:
Originally posted by SteedaSVTââ??¢:
Originally posted by LocoGSR:
Originally posted by SteedaSVTââ??¢:
Originally posted by LocoGSR:
Originally posted by SteedaSVTââ??¢:
your gonna get crushed! Better ask your wife if you can use some of your kids Savings bonds
If you think im joking we can put money on it?
Give me a break Steeda......your gonna need a tow truck to get home after your diff breaks!
I won't even launch hard and ill win. Roger can't drive its a known fact
I know otherwise......but you will find out soon enough.
and he will find out some stuff too
are you next on the list?
I can take off Grandpa style and beat you.....gonna need more than that cheap intake mod and ghetto exhaust!
I wouldn't be soo cocky there, tough guy
But we'll leave it at that.
and Ghetto exhuast? ya brullen ypipe and Basanni Def Ghetto
Cocky? Just stating the truth.....you will need nitrous to even stay with me.
As far as your exhaust.....it looks ghetto..... I should know...I am the king of ghetto exhausts on the Contour.
ya coming from the Guy with the Ghetto Zetec? Dream on..
Worry about Barge and when i beat you, you can go kill yourself cuase i beat you with my POS as you so stated
Ghetto Zetec....I doubt your SVT makes what my Zetec made on the dyno.
HAHAHAHAHAHA now your dreaming!!!!!!
Ill make over 185fwhp if you wanna question it look at barges 183fwhp then add the stuff i have that he didn't.
I wish i could live in your fantasy world it would be interesting.
Maybe ill just take out a loan and Crush everyone there?
Um where are your car's dyno graphs?
They'll be around just stating whos doing the tuning and i have way more mods than he did. Hate to break your ego trip but you don't konw [censored]!
Originally posted by SteedaSVTââ??¢:
Originally posted by LocoGSR:
Originally posted by SteedaSVTââ??¢:
Originally posted by LocoGSR:
Originally posted by SteedaSVTââ??¢:
Originally posted by LocoGSR:
Originally posted by SteedaSVTââ??¢:
Originally posted by LocoGSR:
Originally posted by SteedaSVTââ??¢:
Originally posted by LocoGSR:
Originally posted by SteedaSVTââ??¢:
Originally posted by LocoGSR:
Originally posted by SteedaSVTââ??¢:
your gonna get crushed! Better ask your wife if you can use some of your kids Savings bonds
If you think im joking we can put money on it?
Give me a break Steeda......your gonna need a tow truck to get home after your diff breaks!
I won't even launch hard and ill win. Roger can't drive its a known fact
I know otherwise......but you will find out soon enough.
and he will find out some stuff too
are you next on the list?
I can take off Grandpa style and beat you.....gonna need more than that cheap intake mod and ghetto exhaust!
I wouldn't be soo cocky there, tough guy
But we'll leave it at that.
and Ghetto exhuast? ya brullen ypipe and Basanni Def Ghetto
Cocky? Just stating the truth.....you will need nitrous to even stay with me.
As far as your exhaust.....it looks ghetto..... I should know...I am the king of ghetto exhausts on the Contour.
ya coming from the Guy with the Ghetto Zetec? Dream on..
Worry about Barge and when i beat you, you can go kill yourself cuase i beat you with my POS as you so stated
Ghetto Zetec....I doubt your SVT makes what my Zetec made on the dyno.
HAHAHAHAHAHA now your dreaming!!!!!!
Ill make over 185fwhp if you wanna question it look at barges 183fwhp then add the stuff i have that he didn't.
I wish i could live in your fantasy world it would be interesting.
Maybe ill just take out a loan and Crush everyone there?
Um where are your car's dyno graphs?
They'll be around just stating whos doing the tuning and i have way more mods than he did. Hate to break your igo trip but you don't konw [censored]!
Well until it is done and you have any kind of proof......who's fooling who? Talk is cheap....especially the crap that I see here.
Seriously.. can you guys quote more posts when you reply... i mean... if people are reading the thread I don't think they need to have the last 20 posts quoted in your reply.
Originally posted by LocoGSR:
Originally posted by SteedaSVTââ??¢:
Originally posted by LocoGSR:
Originally posted by SteedaSVTââ??¢:
Originally posted by LocoGSR:
Originally posted by SteedaSVTââ??¢:
Originally posted by LocoGSR:
Originally posted by SteedaSVTââ??¢:
Originally posted by LocoGSR:
Originally posted by SteedaSVTââ??¢:
Originally posted by LocoGSR:
Originally posted by SteedaSVTââ??¢:
Originally posted by LocoGSR:
Originally posted by SteedaSVTââ??¢:
your gonna get crushed! Better ask your wife if you can use some of your kids Savings bonds
If you think im joking we can put money on it?
Give me a break Steeda......your gonna need a tow truck to get home after your diff breaks!
I won't even launch hard and ill win. Roger can't drive its a known fact
I know otherwise......but you will find out soon enough.
and he will find out some stuff too
are you next on the list?
I can take off Grandpa style and beat you.....gonna need more than that cheap intake mod and ghetto exhaust!
I wouldn't be soo cocky there, tough guy
But we'll leave it at that.
and Ghetto exhuast? ya brullen ypipe and Basanni Def Ghetto
Cocky? Just stating the truth.....you will need nitrous to even stay with me.
As far as your exhaust.....it looks ghetto..... I should know...I am the king of ghetto exhausts on the Contour.
ya coming from the Guy with the Ghetto Zetec? Dream on..
Worry about Barge and when i beat you, you can go kill yourself cuase i beat you with my POS as you so stated
Ghetto Zetec....I doubt your SVT makes what my Zetec made on the dyno.
HAHAHAHAHAHA now your dreaming!!!!!!
Ill make over 185fwhp if you wanna question it look at barges 183fwhp then add the stuff i have that he didn't.
I wish i could live in your fantasy world it would be interesting.
Maybe ill just take out a loan and Crush everyone there?
Um where are your car's dyno graphs?
They'll be around just stating whos doing the tuning and i have way more mods than he did. Hate to break your igo trip but you don't konw [censored]!
Well until it is done and you have any kind of proof......who's fooling who? Talk is cheap....especially the crap that I see here.
Meh
Its skunkworks I can't tell you what happening
I'll take you all!
Hector...I will race you from a roll on one of those special tracks...
Originally posted by MxRacer:
Originally posted by SteedaSVTââ??¢:
and he will find out some stuff too
are you next on the list?
wanna add me to that list, pumpkin? maybe we can make it monetarily interesting
ahem....
Originally posted by MxRacer:
Originally posted by MxRacer:
Originally posted by SteedaSVTââ??¢:
and he will find out some stuff too
are you next on the list?
wanna add me to that list, pumpkin? maybe we can make it monetarily interesting
ahem....
ill race you my svt vs yours?
Originally posted by SteedaSVTââ??¢:
Originally posted by MxRacer:
Originally posted by MxRacer:
Originally posted by SteedaSVTââ??¢:
and he will find out some stuff too
are you next on the list?
wanna add me to that list, pumpkin? maybe we can make it monetarily interesting
ahem....
ill race you my svt vs yours?
mmmm.... nope. my svt will be long gone by then.
ill have a SVT either way
Originally posted by SteedaSVTââ??¢:
ill have a SVT either way
lol... good. want to race for pinks? i'll give you a car length.
if i get a diff svt im pretty sure ill crush you
Originally posted by SteedaSVTââ??¢:
if i get a diff svt im pretty sure ill crush you
good. want to race for pinks? i'll give you a car length!
This thread sucks. Steeda, go buy your Cobra or Lightning, your hinting sucks.
If you've still got the CSVT, you don't stand a chance against Hector if you're barely pushing 185fwhp. Hell, I'll shift from 1st to 3rd to 5th and take you.
Mark
All I can say is... I CANNOT WAIT FOR SZ06!!! The drag strip is going to be nuts, you can bet that I'll be taping everyone of these so called races. I bet 50 percent of these races will fall through!
Originally posted by Y2KSVT:
This thread sucks. Steeda, go buy your Cobra or Lightning, your hinting sucks. If you've still got the CSVT, you don't stand a chance against Hector if you're barely pushing 185fwhp. Hell, I'll shift from 1st to 3rd to 5th and take you.
Mark
I wasn't really hinting towards anything 99% of the people on this board know i want a 03-04 cobra or a lightning.
Also i never said that i will only be at 185. i guess we'll have to see
I love the "its a known fact that Roger can't drive" bit, its the funniest thing in the CEG, EVER
but for the record, I have never claimed to be "Big Daddy" Don Garlits at the dragstrip, even though I cut a good light my first time out of the box
Nor do I claim to be Colin McRae on the Dragon, but I'm sure my enthusiasm for going down there every year makes it "look" like I'm saying that I am and if either ones the case, its really too bad
Now as far as Steedas ride beating Hectors, well, I don't see you putting $20K into the car to come "close", but I could see you getting a used Cobra though. Then, after you do the pulley/cat-back/intake and Superchip, the race between you and Hector would be interesting
As far as your current car though, I'm ready, willing and very able!
03-04 cobra would WALK hector...I've been in a few...they are stupid fast....oh wait but on these boards racing from a roll doesn't count...
Originally posted by MapOfTaziFoShoââ??¢:
03-04 cobra would WALK hector...I've been in a few...they are stupid fast....oh wait but on these boards racing from a roll doesn't count...
nothing a set of street slicks wouldn't take care of.
Originally posted by MapOfTaziFoShoââ??¢:
03-04 cobra would WALK hector...I've been in a few...they are stupid fast....oh wait but on these boards racing from a roll doesn't count...
Racing from a roll counts Pete, but the last time I checked, theres no RFRHRA (Racing From a Roll Hot Rod Association) In a street race the Cobra will need to hook-up, obviously, but at the dragstrip a modded Cobra (pulley/exhaust/intake/Superchip) would beat Hectors EVO in its current set-up, he'll say as much when he reads this. The Cobra is an awesome car, no doubt and what you can get out of them for about $1000 in mods is sick, but check out that street fire site because I've seen modded Cobras vs. modded EVO and all I can say is "launch, hook and over" for the Cobras I've seen, sorry
Im gonna move very soon soo thats obviously first. After that i'll check the funds and go from there on the Cobra/Lightning.
As far as the CSVT i guess we'll just have to race roger.
bone stock 03/04 Cobra > stock to lightly modded EVO
If you can cut a 2.0 60' with the Cobra, I don't care if the EVO pulls a 1.5, it's lights out Mitsubishi.
That $1000 - $2000 in mods for the Cobra, you're looking at 11's without batting an eye.
Mark
I remember watching Hot Rod TV and they spent $600.00 total on the pulley and SCT to get 440 RWHP out of the Cobra, amazing. IMO, with a better exhaust and CAI, that number is sure to go up another 20 hp, making those 11's VERY easy
The rule of thumb is this, "theres 20 cars you can beat and theres 20 cars that can beat you!"
Cobra > Evo
I would have had one if there wasn't winter here.
Originally posted by LocoGSR:
Cobra > Evo
I would have had one if there wasn't winter here.
I knew you'd see it that way, but what do you expect, Hector is a stand up guy I bet alot more of us would have different cars if we didn't live in the "snow belt" 
okay who's racing something other than a evo or wrx...i.e were's the slow cars? that way i dont look stupid my first time to the track
Originally posted by tour96se:
okay who's racing something other than a evo or wrx...i.e were's the slow cars? that way i dont look stupid my first time to the track
me
Originally posted by MapOfTaziFoShoââ??¢:
Originally posted by tour96se:
okay who's racing something other than a evo or wrx...i.e were's the slow cars? that way i dont look stupid my first time to the track
me
...cool,so we can talk [censored] to each other than?
Originally posted by tour96se:
Originally posted by MapOfTaziFoShoââ??¢:
Originally posted by tour96se:
okay who's racing something other than a evo or wrx...i.e were's the slow cars? that way i dont look stupid my first time to the track
me
...cool,so we can talk [censored] to each other than?
I am gonna show you where the wild goose goes and then I am gonna butter yo bread.
Originally posted by MapOfTaziFoShoââ??¢:
Originally posted by tour96se:
Originally posted by MapOfTaziFoShoââ??¢:
Originally posted by tour96se:
okay who's racing something other than a evo or wrx...i.e were's the slow cars? that way i dont look stupid my first time to the track
me
...cool,so we can talk [censored] to each other than?
I am gonna show you where the wild goose goes and then I am gonna butter yo bread.
...oh man here we go with the midwestern street slang again ....how am i supposed to take you serious when you do that?....
I'll race a stock '03 or '04 Cobra from a roll (..again). I forfit anything from a stop or against a non-stock car though.
Originally posted by RyeLou:
I'll race a stock '03 or '04 Cobra from a roll (..again). I forfit anything from a stop or against a non-stock car though.
well ok get a stock srt-4. and a stock cobra!!
Well well, there is always rules to races .
I have never gone to a race track or drag stip and seeing people go from am roll? were did u race this cobra doing this at??
Originally posted by HarryBallz:
Originally posted by RyeLou:
I'll race a stock '03 or '04 Cobra from a roll (..again). I forfit anything from a stop or against a non-stock car though.
well ok get a stock srt-4. and a stock cobra!!
Well well, there is always rules to races .
I have never gone to a race track or drag stip and seeing people go from am roll? were did u race this cobra doing this at??
There is this infamous race track in MI called woodward. Great place!
Originally posted by tour96se:
okay who's racing something other than a evo or wrx...i.e were's the slow cars? that way i dont look stupid my first time to the track
My car is rated at 14.9@96 mph, who wants some
Originally posted by The EX- Striped SVT:
Originally posted by tour96se:
okay who's racing something other than a evo or wrx...i.e were's the slow cars? that way i dont look stupid my first time to the track
My car is rated at 14.9@96 mph, who wants some
I want some of that. Anytime old man
Originally posted by The EX- Striped SVT:
Originally posted by tour96se:
okay who's racing something other than a evo or wrx...i.e were's the slow cars? that way i dont look stupid my first time to the track
My car is rated at 14.9@96 mph, who wants some
...ohhhhhhhh ohhhhhhhhhh me me ..i'm in than
Originally posted by HarryBallz:
well ok get a stock srt-4. and a stock cobra!!
Well well, there is always rules to races .
I have never gone to a race track or drag stip and seeing people go from am roll? were did u race this cobra doing this at??
Good point. I forfit the above race as well. I raced him at a raceway in MI.
Originally posted by The EX- Striped SVT:
My car is rated at 14.9@96 mph, who wants some
I'll take some of that for sure!! Because once I beat you, maybe you'll realize that the crossfire is by all means not cool or fast
Originally posted by RawBurt:
Originally posted by The EX- Striped SVT:
My car is rated at 14.9@96 mph, who wants some
I'll take some of that for sure!! Because once I beat you, maybe you'll realize that the crossfire is by all means not cool or fast
Take him in your camaro
Originally posted by HarryBallz:
Originally posted by RawBurt:
Originally posted by The EX- Striped SVT:
My car is rated at 14.9@96 mph, who wants some
I'll take some of that for sure!! Because once I beat you, maybe you'll realize that the crossfire is by all means not cool or fast
Take him in your camaro
Aint happening
Originally posted by RawBurt:
Originally posted by The EX- Striped SVT:
My car is rated at 14.9@96 mph, who wants some
I'll take some of that for sure!! Because once I beat you, maybe you'll realize that the crossfire is by all means not cool or fast
i wouldnt go that far...i think the crossfires looks pretty cool
Crossfire has a nice feel to it. I haven't gotten to drive one though.
I'll go and race anyone and everyone in my 79 F-250 if someone helps me buy;
Ford Motorsport Cobra Jet heads (the current Kaase design) port matched and blended
A mild hydraulic roller cam (like the Crane 311-2s-12)
500-520 cid stroker kit
Something along the lines of 10.5:1 CR (achievable with aluminum heads)
A good set of headers with 2" to 2-1/4" primaries.
Weiand Stealth intake topped with a 900-950 cfm carb
Only produces 562 HP @ 5000 RPM and 651 lb-ft torque from 2500 to 4000 RPM. there is 642 lb-ft on tap at 2500 RPM and it doesn't drop below 600 lb-ft until 5000 RPM
I just saw that set up on another forum for the truck and couldn't believe it. Screw modding the tour from now on, I need to same money for that!!!! Lots and lots of money
all this talk about racing...
anyone want to race on foot?
i'll demolish
Quote:
I'll take some of that for sure!! Because once I beat you, maybe you'll realize that the crossfire is by all means not cool or fast
I missed the part where I said the car was fast, maybe you should've told me about that at our last meet but as far as the car being cool, well, I guess thats ones opinion but the car gets alot of looks for sure One thing thats cool about the car is its M-B heritage, so theres not that....nah, never mind, I forgot my flamesuit BTW, lets talk numbers Rawburt:
-215 hp vs. 200/195 hp
-230 ft/lbs of torque vs. 169 ft/lbs of torque
-3,000 lbs plus vs. 3200//3300 lbs
Now you've got me in the final drive department 4.06 vs. 3.25, but thats ok, I'm not worried!
Originally posted by GreaseyMonkey:
all this talk about racing...
anyone want to race on foot?
i'll demolish
are we talking foot or feet?
as in running. two feet, two legs.
Originally posted by GreaseyMonkey:
all this talk about racing...
anyone want to race on foot?
i'll demolish
Ill crush you!!!!!
4.4 fourty time 10.2 100 meter
Originally posted by SteedaSVTââ??¢:
Originally posted by GreaseyMonkey:
all this talk about racing...
anyone want to race on foot?
i'll demolish
Ill crush you!!!!!
4.4 fourty time 10.2 100 meter
the only crushing you'll do is if you fall on him.
I "used" to run a 9.98 100m. Of course, I "used" to have a top speed of about 22.5 mph (though, granted, not for long at all)
I wouldn't dare exert myself that much, anymore.
Originally posted by SteedaSVTââ??¢:
Originally posted by GreaseyMonkey:
all this talk about racing...
anyone want to race on foot?
i'll demolish
Ill crush you!!!!!
4.4 fourty time 10.2 100 meter
When 2 years ago?
Originally posted by LocoGSR:
Originally posted by SteedaSVTââ??¢:
Originally posted by GreaseyMonkey:
all this talk about racing...
anyone want to race on foot?
i'll demolish
Ill crush you!!!!!
4.4 fourty time 10.2 100 meter
When 2 years ago?
lol Nope
like 8 years ago
Originally posted by The EX- Striped SVT:
Quote:
I'll take some of that for sure!! Because once I beat you, maybe you'll realize that the crossfire is by all means not cool or fast
I missed the part where I said the car was fast, maybe you should've told me about that at our last meet but as far as the car being cool, well, I guess thats ones opinion but the car gets alot of looks for sure One thing thats cool about the car is its M-B heritage, so theres not that....nah, never mind, I forgot my flamesuit BTW, lets talk numbers Rawburt:
-215 hp vs. 200/195 hp
-230 ft/lbs of torque vs. 169 ft/lbs of torque
-3,000 lbs plus vs. 3200//3300 lbs
Now you've got me in the final drive department 4.06 vs. 3.25, but thats ok, I'm not worried!
Take it easy Rog, I was just messing with ya!!! But I'll still beat ya
Originally posted by RawBurt:
Originally posted by The EX- Striped SVT:
Quote:
I'll take some of that for sure!! Because once I beat you, maybe you'll realize that the crossfire is by all means not cool or fast
I missed the part where I said the car was fast, maybe you should've told me about that at our last meet but as far as the car being cool, well, I guess thats ones opinion but the car gets alot of looks for sure One thing thats cool about the car is its M-B heritage, so theres not that....nah, never mind, I forgot my flamesuit BTW, lets talk numbers Rawburt:
-215 hp vs. 200/195 hp
-230 ft/lbs of torque vs. 169 ft/lbs of torque
-3,000 lbs plus vs. 3200//3300 lbs
Now you've got me in the final drive department 4.06 vs. 3.25, but thats ok, I'm not worried!
Take it easy Rog, I was just messing with ya!!! But I'll still beat ya
Roger lives in this world where everyone is a motor trend test driver. he will soon find out that im gonna Crush him!!!!!!!!!!
Originally posted by SteedaSVTââ??¢:
Originally posted by RawBurt:
Originally posted by The EX- Striped SVT:
Quote:
I'll take some of that for sure!! Because once I beat you, maybe you'll realize that the crossfire is by all means not cool or fast
I missed the part where I said the car was fast, maybe you should've told me about that at our last meet but as far as the car being cool, well, I guess thats ones opinion but the car gets alot of looks for sure One thing thats cool about the car is its M-B heritage, so theres not that....nah, never mind, I forgot my flamesuit BTW, lets talk numbers Rawburt:
-215 hp vs. 200/195 hp
-230 ft/lbs of torque vs. 169 ft/lbs of torque
-3,000 lbs plus vs. 3200//3300 lbs
Now you've got me in the final drive department 4.06 vs. 3.25, but thats ok, I'm not worried!
Take it easy Rog, I was just messing with ya!!! But I'll still beat ya
Roger lives in this world where everyone is a motor trend test driver. he will soon find out that im gonna Crush him!!!!!!!!!!
Like I said.....you'd better have more than a exhaust and "tune"
Originally posted by LocoGSR:
Originally posted by SteedaSVTââ??¢:
Originally posted by RawBurt:
Originally posted by The EX- Striped SVT:
Quote:
I'll take some of that for sure!! Because once I beat you, maybe you'll realize that the crossfire is by all means not cool or fast
I missed the part where I said the car was fast, maybe you should've told me about that at our last meet but as far as the car being cool, well, I guess thats ones opinion but the car gets alot of looks for sure One thing thats cool about the car is its M-B heritage, so theres not that....nah, never mind, I forgot my flamesuit BTW, lets talk numbers Rawburt:
-215 hp vs. 200/195 hp
-230 ft/lbs of torque vs. 169 ft/lbs of torque
-3,000 lbs plus vs. 3200//3300 lbs
Now you've got me in the final drive department 4.06 vs. 3.25, but thats ok, I'm not worried!
Take it easy Rog, I was just messing with ya!!! But I'll still beat ya
Roger lives in this world where everyone is a motor trend test driver. he will soon find out that im gonna Crush him!!!!!!!!!!
Like I said.....you'd better have more than a exhaust and "tune"
To beat roger? HA he'll run like a mid 15 if that. I won't beat you but I'll bet its alot closer than you think
Roger, whats 0-60 in your car?
Originally posted by The EX- Striped SVT:
One thing thats cool about the car is its M-B heritage, so theres not that
I like my Porsche/Cosworth heritage more
Originally posted by SteedaSVTââ??¢:
Originally posted by LocoGSR:
Originally posted by SteedaSVTââ??¢:
Originally posted by RawBurt:
Originally posted by The EX- Striped SVT:
Quote:
I'll take some of that for sure!! Because once I beat you, maybe you'll realize that the crossfire is by all means not cool or fast
I missed the part where I said the car was fast, maybe you should've told me about that at our last meet but as far as the car being cool, well, I guess thats ones opinion but the car gets alot of looks for sure One thing thats cool about the car is its M-B heritage, so theres not that....nah, never mind, I forgot my flamesuit BTW, lets talk numbers Rawburt:
-215 hp vs. 200/195 hp
-230 ft/lbs of torque vs. 169 ft/lbs of torque
-3,000 lbs plus vs. 3200//3300 lbs
Now you've got me in the final drive department 4.06 vs. 3.25, but thats ok, I'm not worried!
Take it easy Rog, I was just messing with ya!!! But I'll still beat ya
Roger lives in this world where everyone is a motor trend test driver. he will soon find out that im gonna Crush him!!!!!!!!!!
Like I said.....you'd better have more than a exhaust and "tune"
To beat roger? HA he'll run like a mid 15 if that. I won't beat you but I'll bet its alot closer than you think
I can't see you running better than a mid 15 either. I guess we will find out.
Originally posted by LocoGSR:
Originally posted by SteedaSVTââ??¢:
Originally posted by LocoGSR:
Originally posted by SteedaSVTââ??¢:
Originally posted by RawBurt:
Originally posted by The EX- Striped SVT:
Quote:
I'll take some of that for sure!! Because once I beat you, maybe you'll realize that the crossfire is by all means not cool or fast
I missed the part where I said the car was fast, maybe you should've told me about that at our last meet but as far as the car being cool, well, I guess thats ones opinion but the car gets alot of looks for sure One thing thats cool about the car is its M-B heritage, so theres not that....nah, never mind, I forgot my flamesuit BTW, lets talk numbers Rawburt:
-215 hp vs. 200/195 hp
-230 ft/lbs of torque vs. 169 ft/lbs of torque
-3,000 lbs plus vs. 3200//3300 lbs
Now you've got me in the final drive department 4.06 vs. 3.25, but thats ok, I'm not worried!
Take it easy Rog, I was just messing with ya!!! But I'll still beat ya
Roger lives in this world where everyone is a motor trend test driver. he will soon find out that im gonna Crush him!!!!!!!!!!
Like I said.....you'd better have more than a exhaust and "tune"
To beat roger? HA he'll run like a mid 15 if that. I won't beat you but I'll bet its alot closer than you think
I can't see you running better than a mid 15 either. I guess we will find out.
Sorry I know how to drive and Its not a zetec ATZ
14.7 at best. i'm betting 14.9 though
Originally posted by RawBurt:
Roger, whats 0-60 in your car?
I believe its 6.9, but don't quote me and BTW, its all good ...BUT, you'll be enjoying my wing deploying in all its glory and notice the de-badging while your at it too
Steeda, you may be right since I've never dragged a stick car, but we'll see and keeping it close with Hector with your ride is going to need a combo of 3.0L w/ NOS (lots of it), turbo'd 2.5L/3.0L or S/C-er, so what is it
Originally posted by Bronco_SVT:
Originally posted by The EX- Striped SVT:
One thing thats cool about the car is its M-B heritage, so theres not that
I like my Porsche/Cosworth heritage more
I'm aware of where the "ideas" came from for the 2.5L, but my car has actual M-B parts, 80% of it for the record
Originally posted by The EX- Striped SVT:
I believe its 6.9, but don't quote me and BTW, its all good ...BUT, you'll be enjoying my wing deploying in all its glory and notice the de-badging while your at it too
well, when I'm in front of you Roger, I'll just vent my moonroof ( for added effect).
-Tim
Originally posted by ContourPower:
Originally posted by The EX- Striped SVT:
I believe its 6.9, but don't quote me and BTW, its all good ...BUT, you'll be enjoying my wing deploying in all its glory and notice the de-badging while your at it too
well, when I'm in front of you Roger, I'll just vent my moonroof ( for added effect).
-Tim
OUCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Crossfire = Not Cool!!!!!!
and To bad it doesn't have any of the only M-B parts worth a damn AMG!!
Originally posted by SteedaSVTââ??¢:
Originally posted by ContourPower:
Originally posted by The EX- Striped SVT:
I believe its 6.9, but don't quote me and BTW, its all good ...BUT, you'll be enjoying my wing deploying in all its glory and notice the de-badging while your at it too
well, when I'm in front of you Roger, I'll just vent my moonroof ( for added effect).
-Tim
OUCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Crossfire = Not Cool!!!!!!
and To bad it doesn't have any of the only M-B parts worth a damn AMG!!
Originally posted by SteedaSVTââ??¢:
and To bad it doesn't have any of the only M-B parts worth a damn AMG!!
SLR > any AMG
Originally posted by The EX- Striped SVT:
keeping it close with Hector with your ride is going to need a combo of 3.0L w/ NOS (lots of it), turbo'd 2.5L/3.0L or S/C-er, so what is it
You sir, are insane. I'm going to make sure that I have a bottle on my car, come Spring Zing. I probably won't even be pushing 300fwhp, and I'll show you that it doesn't take a turbo and a LOT of "NOS" as you like to put it. This is going to be interesting.
Mark
I'll guarantee it takes a turbo and at least a decent sized shot of nitrous to keep up. I've raced a turbo CSVT a handful of times at different mod levels.
Originally posted by Y2KSVT:
Originally posted by The EX- Striped SVT:
keeping it close with Hector with your ride is going to need a combo of 3.0L w/ NOS (lots of it), turbo'd 2.5L/3.0L or S/C-er, so what is it
You sir, are insane. I'm going to make sure that I have a bottle on my car, come Spring Zing. I probably won't even be pushing 300fwhp, and I'll show you that it doesn't take a turbo and a LOT of "NOS" as you like to put it. This is going to be interesting.
Mark
Hahaha. No kidding.
I would take a standard 2.5L SVT with the 75 wet shot I used to run and expect to destroy the 'average driver' in a bone stock EVO. Modded is different story of course.
There was a guy in TX who came in with his evo using a fancy boost controller and intake, new blow-off valve, plugs etc, and he maxed out the boost on his car and he was only pulling mid 13s around a little over 102.xx or 103.xx mph range.
Driven well and with a few good mods I'm sure it is a consistent mid 13's car, but actual bone stock for the normal driver it seems to be a low 14's maybe 13.9x 1/4mile car.
A 3L on nitrous.....if he can launch fairly well and hook up in 2nd gear then I wouldn't vote for the basic EVO being the winner, even with an intake.
Either way, I'll give the nod to the 3L SVT with Nitrous once they hit 3rd gear, the duratec is so nice with a little power and room to stretch its legs.
Of course with mods on both, it will be a kick ass race but the EVO will get a good hole shot and maybe enough to keep the lead! Please take lots of video.
Originally posted by RyeLou:
I'll guarantee it takes a turbo and at least a decent sized shot of nitrous to keep up. I've raced a turbo CSVT a handful of times at different mod levels.
Keep up with who? You mean to keep up with an EVO or your SRT-4....or do you mean to keep up with a turbo SVT?
Originally posted by warmonger:
A 3L on nitrous.....if he can launch fairly well and hook up in 2nd gear then I wouldn't vote
Which is exactly why I've been dieing to get my car running right and to the track with the bottle. Consistently low 2.2 and 2.1 60' times, and the tires barely bark in 2nd. Not sure what makes my car hook and most not, but I think Jim can contest to it. 2nd gear hooks pretty violently. Can't wait til May!
Mark
Originally posted by warmonger:
Originally posted by RyeLou:
I'll guarantee it takes a turbo and at least a decent sized shot of nitrous to keep up. I've raced a turbo CSVT a handful of times at different mod levels.
Keep up with who? You mean to keep up with an EVO or your SRT-4....or do you mean to keep up with a turbo SVT?
I was typing without thinking really. I think a turbo 2.5L or a turbo 3.0L would keep up with a stock Evo, but I still think it would lose. If you're talking about a car like yours with full internals (I'm guessing, right?) and pretty much every other part made for the CSVT, that may be different. To really beat on a stock Evo or beat a lightly modded SRT I do think you'll need something on top of a standard turbo kit. I have no idea where the S/C CSVT fits into the picture.
Originally posted by SteedaSVTââ??¢:
Originally posted by ContourPower:
Originally posted by The EX- Striped SVT:
I believe its 6.9, but don't quote me and BTW, its all good ...BUT, you'll be enjoying my wing deploying in all its glory and notice the de-badging while your at it too
well, when I'm in front of you Roger, I'll just vent my moonroof ( for added effect).
-Tim
OUCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Crossfire = Not Cool!!!!!!
and To bad it doesn't have any of the only M-B parts worth a damn AMG!!
Too you its not cool, fine! I didn't lease the car because I thought it was the coolest ride out there, I just liked the car and how it drove and I certainly don't think its that fast, but its fast enough to beat a CSVT w/ exhaust/CAI, thats for sure.
Now as far as it not having M-B parts worth a damn, well your right Steeda, the engine/trans/rearend/suspension/brakes/chassis isn't really that much and as far as AMG, well, I couldn't afford the SRT-6 Crossfire because at the time they were still $47K+, but in addition to the cost, I didn't want it either because they only come in automatics
In any case, which one of you and your CSVT wants to run it before SZ because all this talk is cheap Just do me a favor and make sure:
-your car is in tune
-you've got good tires
-your car's "ready"
NO EXUSES!
You do realize that all your doing is talking too. You keep flappin your gums about how fast your homosexual car is.
Your gonna need more than some debadging and different muffler to be around me. Maybe try racing Pete, Or ContourPower
I wish i could live in the cool Compound Dream world, seems like a very interesting place
So let me see if I got this right, race a 3.0L SE and a CSVT w/150K on it and then, only then, do I get to "prove myself" against your ride and its "mystery mods"
Thats fine, but like I said, unless your doing something "major", I don't see the results being that much different either way, but we'll see. Your right, I'm talkin' too, so when someone is ready out there, lets head down to the city airport area on a Sunday
As far as the car being a "homo ride", well, becareful Steeda, you don't want to get banned, do you
Not sayin' I'm going to get all pissed about it, but we do have someone who's a vetern CEG-er who is that way and he could make a stink to Lance about it, something to think about.
Originally posted by The EX- Striped SVT:
So let me see if I got this right, race a 3.0L SE and a CSVT w/150K on it and then, only then, do I get to "prove myself" against your ride and its "mystery mods" Thats fine, but like I said, unless your doing something "major", I don't see the results being that much different either way, but we'll see. Your right, I'm talkin' too, so when someone is ready out there, lets head down to the city airport area on a Sunday
As far as the car being a "homo ride", well, becareful Steeda, you don't want to get banned, do you Not sayin' I'm going to get all pissed about it, but we do have someone who's a vetern CEG-er who is that way and he could make a stink to Lance about it, something to think about.
is Homosexual not the PC term????
City airport? WOW big risk taker, maybe we can have one of your girls say when to go? Seriously Lapeer and maybe ill run becuase after i smoke you, you will come on CEG and tell everyone what i have. Soo odds are prob not
And there is no mystery mod's just you don't have a need to know. The people who have the need to know, Know what mods it has
stick to "rubbin one out" a car that is
cars on fire own.
-Tim
Originally posted by ContourPower:
cars on fire own.
-Tim
the one and only true "flaming" car, eh?
Seriously, whats the deal with all the secrets
First it was Marks ride and I said something to JD about it, now this 1 to 1.5 second improvement in a stock CSVT, just say what it is already, I mean, its a Contour, not some muscle car w/ a s/b chevy that could have any number of mods, so just tell everyone already
-3.0L
-3.0L w/ NOS
-2.5L w/NOS
-2.5L w/S/C-er
-3.0L w/S/C-er
-2.5L w/turbo
-3.0L w/turbo
-2.5L w/exhaust/CAI and "Barge" tune
-2003 "Terminator" and if thats the case, I SURRENDER
As far as going down to city airport and it being a risk, well, have someone videotape it and then put it on streetfire, that way, everyone can see how bad I got smoked and what I got smoked by
Roger...you are missing the point. You have NEVER dragged a MT automobile before. You are 'thinking' that you can hit the C/D times your first shot...and you are DEAD WRONG. Jason has been to the track enough times to be confident that he can beat you on skill alone. I think that is what this entire argument is based upon.
Secrets kept my interest. Knowledge fulfilled it.
Mystery Roger, is in the eye of the beholder
-Tim
Originally posted by MapOfTaziFoShoââ??¢:
Roger...you are missing the point. You have NEVER dragged a MT automobile before. You are 'thinking' that you can hit the C/D times your first shot...and you are DEAD WRONG. Jason has been to the track enough times to be confident that he can beat you on skill alone. I think that is what this entire argument is based upon.
The question is if Jason's tired SVT can even hold up. Not only to the drag race itself but to the "mystery" power mods that are going into it. I think it will be close.....even if Roger doesn't drive the car 100% the car is still going to run a low 15 which is hard for any mildly modded SVT driver to hit. This will be a driver's race.
Originally posted by LocoGSR:
Originally posted by MapOfTaziFoShoââ??¢:
Roger...you are missing the point. You have NEVER dragged a MT automobile before. You are 'thinking' that you can hit the C/D times your first shot...and you are DEAD WRONG. Jason has been to the track enough times to be confident that he can beat you on skill alone. I think that is what this entire argument is based upon.
The question is if Jason's tired SVT can even hold up. Not only to the drag race itself but to the "mystery" power mods that are going into it. I think it will be close.....even if Roger doesn't drive the car 100% the car is still going to run a low 15 which is hard for any mildly modded SVT driver to hit. This will be a driver's race.
Think before you post....
Jasons Tired SVT contour's engine has 25k on it.. Anything i can fill you in on?
Originally posted by SteedaSVTââ??¢:
Originally posted by LocoGSR:
Originally posted by MapOfTaziFoShoââ??¢:
Roger...you are missing the point. You have NEVER dragged a MT automobile before. You are 'thinking' that you can hit the C/D times your first shot...and you are DEAD WRONG. Jason has been to the track enough times to be confident that he can beat you on skill alone. I think that is what this entire argument is based upon.
The question is if Jason's tired SVT can even hold up. Not only to the drag race itself but to the "mystery" power mods that are going into it. I think it will be close.....even if Roger doesn't drive the car 100% the car is still going to run a low 15 which is hard for any mildly modded SVT driver to hit. This will be a driver's race.
Think before you post....
Jasons Tired SVT contour's engine has 25k on it.. Anything i can fill you in on?
How about the trans?
Originally posted by LocoGSR:
Originally posted by SteedaSVTââ??¢:
Originally posted by LocoGSR:
Originally posted by MapOfTaziFoShoââ??¢:
Roger...you are missing the point. You have NEVER dragged a MT automobile before. You are 'thinking' that you can hit the C/D times your first shot...and you are DEAD WRONG. Jason has been to the track enough times to be confident that he can beat you on skill alone. I think that is what this entire argument is based upon.
The question is if Jason's tired SVT can even hold up. Not only to the drag race itself but to the "mystery" power mods that are going into it. I think it will be close.....even if Roger doesn't drive the car 100% the car is still going to run a low 15 which is hard for any mildly modded SVT driver to hit. This will be a driver's race.
Think before you post....
Jasons Tired SVT contour's engine has 25k on it.. Anything i can fill you in on?
How about the trans?
How about worry how bad Barge is Gonna crush your EVO,
Originally posted by SteedaSVTââ??¢:
Originally posted by LocoGSR:
Originally posted by SteedaSVTââ??¢:
Originally posted by LocoGSR:
Originally posted by MapOfTaziFoShoââ??¢:
Roger...you are missing the point. You have NEVER dragged a MT automobile before. You are 'thinking' that you can hit the C/D times your first shot...and you are DEAD WRONG. Jason has been to the track enough times to be confident that he can beat you on skill alone. I think that is what this entire argument is based upon.
The question is if Jason's tired SVT can even hold up. Not only to the drag race itself but to the "mystery" power mods that are going into it. I think it will be close.....even if Roger doesn't drive the car 100% the car is still going to run a low 15 which is hard for any mildly modded SVT driver to hit. This will be a driver's race.
Think before you post....
Jasons Tired SVT contour's engine has 25k on it.. Anything i can fill you in on?
How about the trans?
How about worry how bad Barge is Gonna crush your EVO,
Crush? LOL now you are smoking.
Originally posted by LocoGSR:
Originally posted by SteedaSVTââ??¢:
Originally posted by LocoGSR:
Originally posted by SteedaSVTââ??¢:
Originally posted by LocoGSR:
Originally posted by MapOfTaziFoShoââ??¢:
Roger...you are missing the point. You have NEVER dragged a MT automobile before. You are 'thinking' that you can hit the C/D times your first shot...and you are DEAD WRONG. Jason has been to the track enough times to be confident that he can beat you on skill alone. I think that is what this entire argument is based upon.
The question is if Jason's tired SVT can even hold up. Not only to the drag race itself but to the "mystery" power mods that are going into it. I think it will be close.....even if Roger doesn't drive the car 100% the car is still going to run a low 15 which is hard for any mildly modded SVT driver to hit. This will be a driver's race.
Think before you post....
Jasons Tired SVT contour's engine has 25k on it.. Anything i can fill you in on?
How about the trans?
How about worry how bad Barge is Gonna crush your EVO,
Crush? LOL now you are smoking.
Its not called Operation Crush EVO for no reason
better get more than a cool vortex generator ohh maybe get some 8" stripes they add power
Originally posted by SteedaSVTââ??¢:
Originally posted by LocoGSR:
Originally posted by SteedaSVTââ??¢:
Originally posted by LocoGSR:
Originally posted by SteedaSVTââ??¢:
Originally posted by LocoGSR:
Originally posted by MapOfTaziFoShoââ??¢:
Roger...you are missing the point. You have NEVER dragged a MT automobile before. You are 'thinking' that you can hit the C/D times your first shot...and you are DEAD WRONG. Jason has been to the track enough times to be confident that he can beat you on skill alone. I think that is what this entire argument is based upon.
The question is if Jason's tired SVT can even hold up. Not only to the drag race itself but to the "mystery" power mods that are going into it. I think it will be close.....even if Roger doesn't drive the car 100% the car is still going to run a low 15 which is hard for any mildly modded SVT driver to hit. This will be a driver's race.
Think before you post....
Jasons Tired SVT contour's engine has 25k on it.. Anything i can fill you in on?
How about the trans?
How about worry how bad Barge is Gonna crush your EVO,
Crush? LOL now you are smoking.
Its not called Operation Crush EVO for no reason
better get more than a cool vortex generator ohh maybe get some 8" stripes they add power
He'd better be getting a new turbo if he expects to "crush" me.
Originally posted by LocoGSR:
Originally posted by SteedaSVTââ??¢:
Originally posted by LocoGSR:
Originally posted by SteedaSVTââ??¢:
Originally posted by LocoGSR:
Originally posted by SteedaSVTââ??¢:
Originally posted by LocoGSR:
Originally posted by MapOfTaziFoShoââ??¢:
Roger...you are missing the point. You have NEVER dragged a MT automobile before. You are 'thinking' that you can hit the C/D times your first shot...and you are DEAD WRONG. Jason has been to the track enough times to be confident that he can beat you on skill alone. I think that is what this entire argument is based upon.
The question is if Jason's tired SVT can even hold up. Not only to the drag race itself but to the "mystery" power mods that are going into it. I think it will be close.....even if Roger doesn't drive the car 100% the car is still going to run a low 15 which is hard for any mildly modded SVT driver to hit. This will be a driver's race.
Think before you post....
Jasons Tired SVT contour's engine has 25k on it.. Anything i can fill you in on?
How about the trans?
How about worry how bad Barge is Gonna crush your EVO,
Crush? LOL now you are smoking.
He'd better be getting a new turbo if he expects to "crush" me.
Its not called Operation Crush EVO for no reason
better get more than a cool vortex generator ohh maybe get some 8" stripes they add power
Maybe learn how to use the internet
all of this banter is silly.
the real question will be:
who has the fastest car at SZ? alex or me?
Originally posted by MxRacer:
all of this banter is silly.
the real question will be:
who has the fastest car at SZ? alex or me?
I got money on Barge
Originally posted by SteedaSVTââ??¢:
Originally posted by MxRacer:
all of this banter is silly.
the real question will be:
who has the fastest car at SZ? alex or me?
I got money on Barge
i'll take that bet! how much?
Originally posted by MxRacer:
Originally posted by SteedaSVTââ??¢:
Originally posted by MxRacer:
all of this banter is silly.
the real question will be:
who has the fastest car at SZ? alex or me?
I got money on Barge
i'll take that bet! how much?
He might not get it, who knows. I wouldn't be putting bets on a car that he doesn have, or have yet.
I'll be the slowest car there... my car is totally stock
Originally posted by WRX Barge:
I'll be the slowest car there... my car is totally stock
Same here!
Originally posted by Arhethia:
Originally posted by MxRacer:
Originally posted by SteedaSVTââ??¢:
Originally posted by MxRacer:
all of this banter is silly.
the real question will be:
who has the fastest car at SZ? alex or me?
I got money on Barge
i'll take that bet! how much?
He might not get it, who knows. I wouldn't be putting bets on a car that he doesn have, or have yet.
i wasn't referring to alex.
Originally posted by MxRacer:
Originally posted by Arhethia:
Originally posted by MxRacer:
Originally posted by SteedaSVTââ??¢:
Originally posted by MxRacer:
all of this banter is silly.
the real question will be:
who has the fastest car at SZ? alex or me?
I got money on Barge
i'll take that bet! how much?
He might not get it, who knows. I wouldn't be putting bets on a car that he doesn have, or have yet.
i wasn't referring to alex.
No one cares troll... Unless your getting a Terminator or a Ferarri.... Ill rip your freakin hood off in a stock 4cyl
Originally posted by SteedaSVTââ??¢:
No one cares troll... Unless your getting a Terminator or a Ferarri.... Ill rip your freakin hood off in a stock 4cyl
stfu! you've been a troll more than not whilst a member here, so cork it!
not to mention you spend more time jocking derek the troll than paws does.
btw, wtf is a ferarri?
Originally posted by MxRacer:
Originally posted by SteedaSVTââ??¢:
No one cares troll... Unless your getting a Terminator or a Ferarri.... Ill rip your freakin hood off in a stock 4cyl
stfu! you've been a troll more than not whilst a member here, so cork it!
not to mention you spend more time jocking derek the troll than paws does.
btw, wtf is a ferarri?
Its the knockoff austria version LOL
a Troll? I was a troll for a year and a half. I see your lackin on the math but its ok..
And i do no jocking unless its you Sweetheart
Originally posted by SteedaSVTââ??¢:
And i do no jocking unless its you Sweetheart
thanks pumpkin tits.
Originally posted by MxRacer:
Originally posted by SteedaSVTââ??¢:
And i do no jocking unless its you Sweetheart
thanks pumpkin tits.
Now back to regular programing...
Roger, its a secret becuase you along with half of the website doesn't have a need to know.
Originally posted by SteedaSVTââ??¢:
Originally posted by MxRacer:
Originally posted by SteedaSVTââ??¢:
And i do no jocking unless its you Sweetheart
thanks pumpkin tits.
Now back to regular programing...
Roger, its a secret becuase you along with half of the website doesn't have a need to know.
i do..i've been losing sleep over it for two weeks now..so yeah,i NEED to know
OK well the extreme Genius's we are here at thee World Famous Skunkworks Autosport. We found out that if your Atomize the HIV virus then spray that into the intake it creates a small nuclear reaction in the ignition stroke.
Soo we have been extracting the HIV from MXracer, and there is a massive increase in power. pretty much the same as typing in 1 on your calculater then hitting the sqaured multiple times thats the insane power increase that comes with this setup..
pumpkin tits < butter titties
Originally posted by SteedaSVTââ??¢:
pretty much the same as typing in 1 on your calculater then hitting the sqaured multiple times thats the insane power increase that comes with this setup..
LMFAO!
Originally posted by Stazi:
Originally posted by SteedaSVTââ??¢:
pretty much the same as typing in 1 on your calculater then hitting the sqaured multiple times thats the insane power increase that comes with this setup..
LMFAO!
HAHAA!! That's good stuff!
Mark
Quote:
better get more than a cool vortex generator ohh maybe get some 8" stripes they add power
You know what, whether your kidding or not, I've been sick and tired of the ripping on the stripes on my old ride, period Back when I was a member of the SVT/SHO Society I was asked by Steve Chang "are you going to do anything to backup the stripes?" I heard this time and time again, but when I showed up to meets from the other side of the state every month, not one compliment on this mod or that mod but rather, some "comment" about the stripes and "backing them up". As time went on I added a couple mods that were supposed to be the sh$t, like the "mystery mod" and true duals. I then pulled a whopping 159 hp and I'm sure everyone laughed about that Then one year later, w/ no other mods, I pulled 168 hp but then I heard "the way you drive like an old man the UIM/LIM are probably choked to death!". Fast forward to SZ04' where everyone is there and I dyno again, w/ only the BAT pipe and 9" K&N added, along with more miles, and I pull 171 hp, but this was a Mustang dyno, not the DynoJet like we previously used. The guy told everyone there to add 10-15% if your used to using a DynoJet so we did and going on the low side the car put down 188 hp and IIRC Steves ride put down a corrected 191 hp, so his CSVT with a chip and cleaning of the UIM/LIM and other "mods" put out 3 more hp. BTW, I'm not purposely calling out Steve, but I just remember him saying the "back up the stripes" comments, no big deal Steve as I have no beef with you.
Now as far you Steeda for coming in here with your "8" stripes" comments, why do that? I believe we got into a pissing match here a couple monthes ago and I couldn't understand why you would say these things, so I have to respond. From front to back, side to side, top to bottom, I had one the nicest cars anywhere, arrogant, well not IMO because my car backed it up. I just don't understand why someone who's rides haven't even been close to show worthy would rip on someone car who looked like it always came right off the showroom floor. I had things to go along with the stripes, don't anyone be so stupid about that give me a break but just because I didn't let someone clean my manifolds or have an unproven chip in my car didn't mean the car was slow! Theres just certain cars here that always got a free ride where others were overlooked, thats why I brought up the dyno pull at SZ04' comparing my car to Steves ride. I got ripped for the bad pulls back in the day, but when I dynos very closely to a "untouchable CEG-er" it goes unnoticed, pathetic I'm also sorry I didn't blow up a diff or two or three to show everyone I don't drive like an old man, those comments are SO stupid and untrue and I'm also very sick and tired of those. For one thing, what does dumping your clutch in a car thats not built for that do, seriously Secondly, I used to drive for a living and needed to keep my record clean, but even with that, I usually drove the CSVT 80 mph on the freeway, believe it or not Thats really the problem here in the CEG, no respect to those who earn it and if you don't have something nice, rip on and/or jump on the bandwagon for the "joke", whether its true or not, stupid
In closing, Pete, I never said I was going to hit anything on my first try but do you really think I'm going to run into the 16's, all kidding aside (if thats even possible here ) Since its not going to look like a trip down to the city airport how about Ubly as soon as it opens and we'll settle this once and for all
WOW its a joke, seriously clean the sand out.
And sorry i can't store a leased car to make my self look more like a tool!
as far as respect for you, i have plenty but you talk just as dumb as some of these newbs some times soo Guess what you get treated like. You talk about my car and it not being show worthy YIPPIE i drive it in the winter, and i dno't have some dorky Klasse count in my sig soo everyone can see that i don't have a life.
And im not driving half way around the state (UBLY) to drag race. Hell why don't we go to Kaukana WI and get some cheese.
Take a joke, and some centrum, and the gas is on the right old man!
Originally posted by SteedaSVTââ??¢:
WOW its a joke, seriously clean the sand out.
And sorry i can't store a leased car to make my self look more like a tool!
as far as respect for you, i have plenty but you talk just as dumb as some of these newbs some times soo Guess what you get treated like. You talk about my car and it not being show worthy YIPPIE i drive it in the winter, and i dno't have some dorky Klasse count in my sig soo everyone can see that i don't have a life.
And im not driving half way around the state (UBLY) to drag race. Hell why don't we go to Kaukana WI and get some cheese.
Take a joke, and some centrum, and the gas is on the right old man!
First off I can certainly take a joke, are you kidding me! I'm 5'6" and lost my hair 15 years ago, so my skin is pretty thick, but when I comes to cars and this site, enough is enough Comparing me to noob, please! Now as far as my car care count, thats not there anymore, but rather advertisement for my side business, pretty smart if you ask me As far as a life and how much I take care of my car, I make time for that, usually at night time, when the wife and kids are away or when its raining out, again, pretty smart if you ask me and great time management! Now as far as heading out to Ubly, well, I can understand that, its just the track I'm comfortable with, thats all and its not that big of a deal to drive there, is it
langwielig.
-Tim
CEG celebrity boxing at SZ06...place your bets!
BTW IIRC Roger was doing close to 100 on 696 with Scott, JD, and I...2 or so years ago.
rog, don't let STD-a rile you up. seriously, look at the guy. you can't take anything he says seriously. hit 1111111111 on your calculator, then hit square root six times, and that's about the percentage of time you can take him seriously.
if you let steeda get to you, then the terrorists have won!
Originally posted by MxRacer:
rog, don't let STD-a rile you up. seriously, look at the guy. you can't take anything he says seriously. hit 1111111111 on your calculator, then hit square root six times, and that's about the percentage of time you can take him seriously.
if you let steeda get to you, then the terrorists have won!
if you hit that many ones then thats a high number....
"Seriously if heterosexual males can't show each other our packages, then what the hell are we doing here?"
Originally posted by SteedaSVTââ??¢:
Originally posted by MxRacer:
rog, don't let STD-a rile you up. seriously, look at the guy. you can't take anything he says seriously. hit 1111111111 on your calculator, then hit square root six times, and that's about the percentage of time you can take him seriously.
if you let steeda get to you, then the terrorists have won!
if you hit that many ones then thats a high number....
"Seriously if heterosexual males can't show each other our packages, then what the hell are we doing here?"
i love that movie!
btw... that would be a high number... 1.38. anything over 1 is a high number for you.
Originally posted by MxRacer:
Originally posted by SteedaSVTââ??¢:
Originally posted by MxRacer:
rog, don't let STD-a rile you up. seriously, look at the guy. you can't take anything he says seriously. hit 1111111111 on your calculator, then hit square root six times, and that's about the percentage of time you can take him seriously.
if you let steeda get to you, then the terrorists have won!
if you hit that many ones then thats a high number....
"Seriously if heterosexual males can't show each other our packages, then what the hell are we doing here?"
i love that movie!
btw... that would be a high number... 1.38. anything over 1 is a high number for you.
I know i know...
Roger,
That dyno at SZ04 was a joke. The numbers it wa putting out were totally out of wack. It might have been accurate for higher outputs or something but the numbers it was putting out for contours were dynojet like numbers... w/o adding 10-15%. Too bad my car wasn't around to make like 220 with the 15% :-P.
Your car may not have been slow but it was not as fast as it could have been with a tune and an intake cleaning. Heck my car picked up 14 hp w/ just a tune.... and I think I could have easily hit 200 hp with headers and an exhaust seeing as how I had all my cats and the stock exhaust w/ the resonator.
So anyway... everyone needs to stop quoting sz04 dyno numbers because in my mind they are totally meaningless...
now go put some stripes on your crossfire so i'll be able to pick it out from 15 car lengths back.
Originally posted by WRX Barge:
Roger,
That dyno at SZ04 was a joke. The numbers it wa putting out were totally out of wack. It might have been accurate for higher outputs or something but the numbers it was putting out for contours were dynojet like numbers... w/o adding 10-15%. Too bad my car wasn't around to make like 220 with the 15% :-P.
Your car may not have been slow but it was not as fast as it could have been with a tune and an intake cleaning. Heck my car picked up 14 hp w/ just a tune.... and I think I could have easily hit 200 hp with headers and an exhaust seeing as how I had all my cats and the stock exhaust w/ the resonator.
So anyway... everyone needs to stop quoting sz04 dyno numbers because in my mind they are totally meaningless...
now go put some stripes on your crossfire so i'll be able to pick it out from 15 car lengths back.
15 car lengths back....all of a sudden we have the fastest car ever.....and it is a Pooparu!
You guys sound crazy.
I hope i never meet you guys ever
I know I get "pissy" sometimes, but I don't like my car getting pulled into things like this (my old one). My car "may" have added some power with a tune and intake cleaning (ringing the old bit siren), but I was very skeptical on those things, just like headers were supposed to add hp and that was proven to be a waste of money (sorry to those who didn't get that memo
) Either way, the car is long gone, I stepped into the Crossfire because I "Jedi-mindtricked" myself out of the EVO because noone had any maintaince records and now I'll wait it out for the next 2 years enjoying the Crossfire. For the record, I had the CSVT up to 130 about 4-5 times, between 110-120 many times, but yes, have only dumped the clutch 3 times in it and FWIW, I've dumped the clutch more than that in less than one year in the Crossfire
I'd also like to mention the time we left Belle Isle on our way to Mexican Village, remember that one Derek
headers dont add hp??? i missed that memo
Originally posted by tour96SeVT:
headers dont add hp??? i missed that memo
That was Roger's own memo...
Originally posted by MapOfTaziFoShoââ??¢:
Originally posted by tour96SeVT:
headers dont add hp??? i missed that memo
That was Roger's own memo...
Actually you've been around long enough Pete, don't you know they really don't add that much if anything at all. I'm going by what Tom dyno'd last year with his CSVT, 177 hp with the "usual" mods in addition to the headers. I know the price has come way down on them, but for the money, just do the "mystery mod" and call it a day
Originally posted by The EX- Striped SVT:
Originally posted by MapOfTaziFoShoââ??¢:
Originally posted by tour96SeVT:
headers dont add hp??? i missed that memo
That was Roger's own memo...
Actually you've been around long enough Pete, don't you know they really don't add that much if anything at all. I'm going by what Tom dyno'd last year with his CSVT, 177 hp with the "usual" mods in addition to the headers. I know the price has come way down on them, but for the money, just do the "mystery mod" and call it a day
I will agree to a POINT. I am not putting on headers because I am broke, BUT with tuning I think the differences can be great!
AFAIC...Tom's results are on two diff dynos...no two dynos are identical.
Originally posted by The EX- Striped SVT:
I know I get "pissy" sometimes, but I don't like my car getting pulled into things like this (my old one). My car "may" have added some power with a tune and intake cleaning (ringing the old bit siren), but I was very skeptical on those things, just like headers were supposed to add hp and that was proven to be a waste of money (sorry to those who didn't get that memo ) Either way, the car is long gone, I stepped into the Crossfire because I "Jedi-mindtricked" myself out of the EVO because noone had any maintaince records and now I'll wait it out for the next 2 years enjoying the Crossfire. For the record, I had the CSVT up to 130 about 4-5 times, between 110-120 many times, but yes, have only dumped the clutch 3 times in it and FWIW, I've dumped the clutch more than that in less than one year in the Crossfire I'd also like to mention the time we left Belle Isle on our way to Mexican Village, remember that one Derek
I was kidding,i have met most in our Michigan area.
You don't have to explain your self to anyone. You don't even have to come across as anybody to prove them wrong.
I think ur a stand up guy. Based off of your opinions of the lions.
Originally posted by Arhethia:
I was kidding,i have met most in our Michigan area.
You don't have to explain your self to anyone. You don't even have to come across as anybody to prove them wrong.
I think ur a stand up guy. Based off of your opinions of the lions.
rog is a great guy! these losers are just pushing his buttons (and doing a good job of it!)
Originally posted by MxRacer:
Originally posted by Arhethia:
I was kidding,i have met most in our Michigan area.
You don't have to explain your self to anyone. You don't even have to come across as anybody to prove them wrong.
I think ur a stand up guy. Based off of your opinions of the lions.
rog is a great guy! these losers are just pushing his buttons (and doing a good job of it!)
Too bad he's on crack if he thinks headers do nothing for our cars. Hmmm, mystery mod? Got turbulence? N/A, headers are the only way to go.
This thread sucks. I'm ready for Spring Zing to get here, so we can end this controversy and bickering. You sound like a bunch of 60 year old women, b!tching over a game of bridge!
Mark
Originally posted by Y2KSVT:
Originally posted by MxRacer:
Originally posted by Arhethia:
I was kidding,i have met most in our Michigan area.
You don't have to explain your self to anyone. You don't even have to come across as anybody to prove them wrong.
I think ur a stand up guy. Based off of your opinions of the lions.
rog is a great guy! these losers are just pushing his buttons (and doing a good job of it!)
Too bad he's on crack if he thinks headers do nothing for our cars. Hmmm, mystery mod? Got turbulence? N/A, headers are the only way to go.
This thread sucks. I'm ready for Spring Zing to get here, so we can end this controversy and bickering. You sound like a bunch of 60 year old women, b!tching over a game of bridge!
Mark
I would like 1 suger cube with my tea please.
Headers don't do [censored]. I think it's crazy to spend $600 to get 5 hp. There's two ways to mod a car, go big or do little [censored] to help you enjoy the car more. Going bolt on crazy is stupid.
And I 2nd pete's comment, I have actually witnessed Roger driving like an ass.
Originally posted by BiggsvT28:
Headers don't do [censored]. I think it's crazy to spend $600 to get 5 hp. There's two ways to mod a car, go big or do little [censored] to help you enjoy the car more. Going bolt on crazy is stupid.
Where are your dyno graphs to show that headers only gain 5HP? FYI, the headers give the Duratec a chance to breathe throught the ENTIRE rev range! Not to mention, make way for future mods!
Bolt-ons are stupid? Since you didn't say for Contours only, I'll assume you mean for all cars. Damn those 03/04 Cobra guys doing bolt-on pulleys and catbacks to gain 50+hp, they've gotta be nuts!
Everyone mods their car for different reasons. California has emissions restrictions that keep them from "going big." Some are into Auto-X, and small bolt-ons keep them in that lower class than going F/I'd.
Why are you selling the turbo kit? Thought you said your car was falling apart. Not exactly the best choice to "go big" now was it?
Mark
Originally posted by Y2KSVT:
Originally posted by BiggsvT28:
Headers don't do [censored]. I think it's crazy to spend $600 to get 5 hp. There's two ways to mod a car, go big or do little [censored] to help you enjoy the car more. Going bolt on crazy is stupid.
Where are your dyno graphs to show that headers only gain 5HP? FYI, the headers give the Duratec a chance to breathe throught the ENTIRE rev range! Not to mention, make way for future mods!
Bolt-ons are stupid? Since you didn't say for Contours only, I'll assume you mean for all cars. Damn those 03/04 Cobra guys doing bolt-on pulleys and catbacks to gain 50+hp, they've gotta be nuts!
Everyone mods their car for different reasons. California has emissions restrictions that keep them from "going big." Some are into Auto-X, and small bolt-ons keep them in that lower class than going F/I'd.
Why are you selling the turbo kit? Thought you said your car was falling apart. Not exactly the best choice to "go big" now was it?
Mark
ZING!
Scott is my friend, but I have to say, sometimes it be like DAYUM!
Originally posted by Y2KSVT:
Thought you said your car was falling apart. Not exactly the best choice to "go big" now was it?
Mark
oh snap! that one left a welt.
Quote:
And I 2nd pete's comment, I have actually witnessed Roger driving like an ass.
Cutting people off, not using a turn signal, weaving in and out of traffic is driving like an ass and I don't do any of that Now on our way down to Mexican Village where the DPD drove along side all of us at the Porter Street exit was a little to close for comfort, but when you think about it, when we were all coming down that ramp to head S of I-75, how could you not just nail it and stay in it
Steeda, we could use some clarification on something. When you say "crush", whats that mean in terms of car lengths, inquiring minds would like to know
Also, is the CSVT w/ exhaust/CAI going to actually "crush" me or just beat me out right
Thanks!
Originally posted by The EX- Striped SVT:
Steeda, we could use some clarification on something. When you say "crush", whats that mean in terms of car lengths, inquiring minds would like to know Also, is the CSVT w/ exhaust/CAI going to actually "crush" me or just beat me out right Thanks!
First off WTF has a CAI??? Cuase i don't they don't add power just like the headers.
What do you consider crushing? 5 cars? do you consider that crushing you?
Im being fair and saying you will run a 15.4 and thats me being generous. Wanna argue with that? Maybe the decals you put on your rims dropped your 1/4 time???
Most CSVT's have a CAI now, don't they
Now for the second part, YES!, I agree and as a matter of fact, Hector and I both agreed that (5) cars was "crushing" someone, amazing that we agree
Then you had to go an ruin it with the decal comment
, but thats ok, except for the "being generous" comment. I'm not sure if its the fact you think I don't know how to drive and/or the fact I haven't been down the track yet, but either way, we'll find out before SZ06' though. I'm picking Rawburt to race and we'll do that race at Ubly, somewhere he can go seeing he's not to far away from there
So how about it Rawburt, is your car ready to represent the CEG against the Crossfire
BTW, anyone else that wants to go and doesn't mind the drive, let us know because as soon as they open, weather permitting, ITS ON!!!
Originally posted by The EX- Striped SVT:
Most CSVT's have a CAI now, don't they
Now for the second part, YES!, I agree and as a matter of fact, Hector and I both agreed that (5) cars was "crushing" someone, amazing that we agree
Then you had to go an ruin it with the decal comment , but thats ok, except for the "being generous" comment. I'm not sure if its the fact you think I don't know how to drive and/or the fact I haven't been down the track yet, but either way, we'll find out before SZ06' though. I'm picking Rawburt to race and we'll do that race at Ubly, somewhere he can go seeing he's not to far away from there So how about it Rawburt, is your car ready to represent the CEG against the Crossfire BTW, anyone else that wants to go and doesn't mind the drive, let us know because as soon as they open, weather permitting, ITS ON!!!
Congrats, My car has a stock intake soo let me know if thats CAI to you.
Ok since you say 5 lengths is crushing i don't have much more to say then.
Originally posted by The EX- Striped SVT:
Then you had to go an ruin it with the decal comment , but thats ok, except for the "being generous" comment. I'm not sure if its the fact you think I don't know how to drive and/or the fact I haven't been down the track yet, but either way, we'll find out before SZ06' though. I'm picking Rawburt to race and we'll do that race at Ubly, somewhere he can go seeing he's not to far away from there So how about it Rawburt, is your car ready to represent the CEG against the Crossfire BTW, anyone else that wants to go and doesn't mind the drive, let us know because as soon as they open, weather permitting, ITS ON!!!
Right this second, no my car is not ready... There are a few things i'll be doing. Once I'm done, I'll let you know. But I'll race you, I think it'll be close.
Originally posted by RawBurt:
Originally posted by The EX- Striped SVT:
Then you had to go an ruin it with the decal comment , but thats ok, except for the "being generous" comment. I'm not sure if its the fact you think I don't know how to drive and/or the fact I haven't been down the track yet, but either way, we'll find out before SZ06' though. I'm picking Rawburt to race and we'll do that race at Ubly, somewhere he can go seeing he's not to far away from there So how about it Rawburt, is your car ready to represent the CEG against the Crossfire BTW, anyone else that wants to go and doesn't mind the drive, let us know because as soon as they open, weather permitting, ITS ON!!!
Right this second, no my car is not ready... There are a few things i'll be doing. Once I'm done, I'll let you know. But I'll race you, I think it'll be close.
Roger I will pull 5 cars on you!
Quote:
Roger I will pull 5 cars on you!
Maybe we should go on "Pinks" Pete, I could something to replace my Regal and your car would be great
pinks....
I had a guy in an 92 civic DX (or... EX.. whatever the base model is) tell me he wanted to run for pinks, last night. He had, and I quote, "a COOLER AIR FILTER, 4 inch tips and a spoiler, so eat THAT!"
He was serious, too! Had a third person to hold titles, etc. HAHAHAHAHAHA
So how do you like your 92 civic?
Originally posted by The EX- Striped SVT:
Quote:
Roger I will pull 5 cars on you!
Maybe we should go on "Pinks" Pete, I could something to replace my Regal and your car would be great
I don't think pete wants that Ace and gary mobile after he ass rapes you without the lube!!!!!
Your car isn't as fast as you like to believe... Ill run ya for pinks.
First run ill even go to Ulby, but i don't want that Thing soo just money...
Better clear it with your wife as your gonna be carless
How can you race for pinks against someone when you are leasing a car? doesn't seem like that would work out too well.
Originally posted by WRX Barge:
How can you race for pinks against someone when you are leasing a car? doesn't seem like that would work out too well.
He likes is fantasy world....
Quote:
Your car isn't as fast as you like to believe... Ill run ya for pinks.
I HAVE NEVER SAID THE CAR IS FAST You find me the quote for that one and...yeah, thats right, there is NO quote for that because I didn't say it. ALL I EVER SAID IS THAT I'LL BEAT A CSVT W/ EXHAUST AND CAI, THATS ALL Looking at what stock CSVT's run (15.4-15.7 @87-88mph) thats NOT fast and if you think it is, YOUR in the fantasy world Steeda. Just bring your car, your mouth and entry fee for Ubly in the spring and if Rawburt wants to run, fine, the more the merrier! To me, fast for a street car is anything in the 13's, not some mid to high 15 second car, please Looking at the times and trap speeds of the CSVT's here, I'm not too worried
How about you guys get the sand out of your snatches, and put your money where your mouths are? Seems to be a lot of trash talking going back and forth. If I were any closer, I'd make it to the track and hand both of you your asses. Since I'm not, I have to wait until Spring Zing, and do it in front of a couple dozen CEG'ers.
Mark
Hey, Im not putting any money any where. I said I'd race roger just because he called me out on it. Besides I think it would be fun and challenging.
Originally posted by The EX- Striped SVT:
Quote:
Your car isn't as fast as you like to believe... Ill run ya for pinks.
I HAVE NEVER SAID THE CAR IS FAST You find me the quote for that one and...yeah, thats right, there is NO quote for that because I didn't say it. ALL I EVER SAID IS THAT I'LL BEAT A CSVT W/ EXHAUST AND CAI, THATS ALL Looking at what stock CSVT's run (15.4-15.7 @87-88mph) thats NOT fast and if you think it is, YOUR in the fantasy world Steeda. Just bring your car, your mouth and entry fee for Ubly in the spring and if Rawburt wants to run, fine, the more the merrier! To me, fast for a street car is anything in the 13's, not some mid to high 15 second car, please Looking at the times and trap speeds of the CSVT's here, I'm not too worried
Roger...20$ I'll beat you at the track.
Originally posted by MapOfTaziFoShoââ??¢:
Originally posted by The EX- Striped SVT:
Quote:
Your car isn't as fast as you like to believe... Ill run ya for pinks.
I HAVE NEVER SAID THE CAR IS FAST You find me the quote for that one and...yeah, thats right, there is NO quote for that because I didn't say it. ALL I EVER SAID IS THAT I'LL BEAT A CSVT W/ EXHAUST AND CAI, THATS ALL Looking at what stock CSVT's run (15.4-15.7 @87-88mph) thats NOT fast and if you think it is, YOUR in the fantasy world Steeda. Just bring your car, your mouth and entry fee for Ubly in the spring and if Rawburt wants to run, fine, the more the merrier! To me, fast for a street car is anything in the 13's, not some mid to high 15 second car, please Looking at the times and trap speeds of the CSVT's here, I'm not too worried
Roger...20$ I'll beat you at the track.
....i want winner for twenty
I'd love to get in on the action if money is involved.. but TX is a LONG ways from there..
just mail me some money and we'll call it a day..
Milan opens on April 1st.
Originally posted by The EX- Striped SVT:
Just bring your car, your mouth and entry fee for Ubly
How about stop being crazy OCD and try a new Track because as stated before UGLY is to far to go to drag race when thre are tracks like 15ft away.
Originally posted by SteedaSVTââ??¢:
Originally posted by The EX- Striped SVT:
Just bring your car, your mouth and entry fee for Ubly
How about stop being crazy OCD and try a new Track because as stated before UGLY is to far to go to drag race when thre are tracks like 15ft away.
Milan or Lapeer. 
I'd be up for going to Milan or Lapeer whenever they open. And I'll be more than happy to put anyone in their place.
FYI I was at Lapeer a week or two before they closed and the track was in worse condition than I had ever seen it. Honestly, there were 3 people working that day. 1 in the tower, 1 in the time slip booth and 1 standing at the line directing traffic. There was litterally no prep done to the track AT ALL. There was a bit of dirt and a few loose stones just behind the starting line. They wouldn't allow the FWD vehicles to back into the water box and for a few hours wouldn't spray water elsewhere to use either. They ended up spraying a bit of water off to the side for FWD, but it really wasn't enough IMO. Lapeer = everyone loses
Originally posted by RyeLou:
I'd be up for going to Milan or Lapeer whenever they open. And I'll be more than happy to put anyone in their place.
aww, thats cute. he thinks his neon is fast!
maybe you should specify that you'll be putting certain cars in their place.
Originally posted by Y2KSVT:
How about you guys get the sand out of your snatches, and put your money where your mouths are? Seems to be a lot of trash talking going back and forth. If I were any closer, I'd make it to the track and hand both of you your asses. Since I'm not, I have to wait until Spring Zing, and do it in front of a couple dozen CEG'ers.
Mark
I'm sure I never said I'd beat a NOS-powered CSVT, thats for sure, but isn't your car the one that dyno'd 180 hp or so w/o the NOS and 3.0L Either way, it would be fun none the less because racing is fun and anything can happen, well, if the planets line up, Steeda has something positive to say about another CEG-er ride which is 100% awesome and the Lions make it to the Superbowl
Pete, April 1st is fine for Ubly because I'm not driving to "Lapeer-billy" and Ubly is closer for me and Rawburt, but if any of you wanna come along and "run it", lets go Also, just because Ubly opens on April 1st, there isn't going to any "fools" other than the doubters
I'd prefer to go to Milan...I know a lot of Xceedspeed will be going on April 1st.
Originally posted by The EX- Striped SVT:
isn't your car the one that dyno'd 180 hp or so w/o the NOS and 3.0L
You've got me confused for someone else. At Spring Zing I dyno'd 196fwhp and 190fwtq. Soon after I ordered an Xcal2 and put down 206fwhp and 195fwtq. Should be interesting then, huh?
Mark
Originally posted by The EX- Striped SVT:
Rawburt, but if any of you wanna come along and "run it", lets go
Lapeer is fine with me, thanks.
Originally posted by RawBurt:
Originally posted by The EX- Striped SVT:
Rawburt, but if any of you wanna come along and "run it", lets go
Lapeer is fine with me, thanks.
Let's go to Milan! From what Ryan says Lapeer sucks!
Originally posted by MapOfTaziFoShoââ??¢:
Originally posted by RawBurt:
Originally posted by The EX- Striped SVT:
Rawburt, but if any of you wanna come along and "run it", lets go
Lapeer is fine with me, thanks.
Let's go to Milan! From what Ryan says Lapeer sucks!
I've seen cars there run 9 second quarter miles, it cant suck thatttttt bad
Originally posted by RawBurt:
Originally posted by MapOfTaziFoShoââ??¢:
Originally posted by RawBurt:
Originally posted by The EX- Striped SVT:
Rawburt, but if any of you wanna come along and "run it", lets go
Lapeer is fine with me, thanks.
Let's go to Milan! From what Ryan says Lapeer sucks!
I've seen cars there run 9 second quarter miles, it cant suck thatttttt bad
Originally posted by RyeLou:
I'd be up for going to Milan or Lapeer whenever they open. And I'll be more than happy to put anyone in their place.
FYI I was at Lapeer a week or two before they closed and the track was in worse condition than I had ever seen it. Honestly, there were 3 people working that day. 1 in the tower, 1 in the time slip booth and 1 standing at the line directing traffic. There was litterally no prep done to the track AT ALL. There was a bit of dirt and a few loose stones just behind the starting line. They wouldn't allow the FWD vehicles to back into the water box and for a few hours wouldn't spray water elsewhere to use either. They ended up spraying a bit of water off to the side for FWD, but it really wasn't enough IMO. Lapeer = everyone loses
Pete, I'm pretty sure I know how to read.
Notice how he said he was at the track a week or two before it closed???? I doubt they put much stock into keeping it maintained so close to winter...
Lapeer's not the best track in the world... but you can actually go down the strip more than 3 times in an 8 hour day.
I hate going to milan... every time i've gone there I get 2-3 runs in.. that's it.
Too many cars.. motorcycles.. junior dragsters... takes forever. And all those fast cars like to break and it takes forever to clean it up.
Originally posted by Pope:
I'd win.
Is the turbo installed or sitting on a shelf?!
Originally posted by MapOfTaziFoShoââ??¢:
Originally posted by Pope:
I'd win.
Is the turbo installed or sitting on a shelf?!
at the moment, on the floor near my desk waiting for a 62-1 compressor wheel to replace the H-3, but it could easily be bolted back in as is by April if I don't have the wheel by then.
Originally posted by RawBurt:
I've seen cars there run 9 second quarter miles, it cant suck thatttttt bad
Unless it was an 8 second car .
Milan can be a pretty good track when its prepped. Has come along way over the years. Had to in order to get IHRA events.
Originally posted by MxRacer:
aww, thats cute. he thinks his neon is fast!
maybe you should specify that you'll be putting certain cars in their place.
If I get a pair of slicks by then (which I don't know if I will or not) I will put everyone who goes in their place. Sorry if I was unclear earlier....ME > *
haha
Anyhow, I do like Milan for the nice track prep and the experience of watching all the cars/bikes/snowmobiles/whatever else run is pretty cool, but like Barge said it almost isn't worth it unless you're just spectating. I've only been there once, but I went 3 times in the 4 hours I was there. I've never been to Ubly but I haven't heard anything bad about it. I'd be up for Lapeer even though the track is [censored]. Everyone is at the same disadvantage for the most part, so it really doesn't matter anyhow.
Needing slicks to go fast at the dragstrip is the Ghey.
Originally posted by WRX Barge:
Needing slicks to go fast at the dragstrip is the Ghey.
Hey, it isn't to go fast, its to launch. The power takes care of the rest.
Besides, you are an AWD snob so stow it!
Oops, I guess so am I now... with the S40 and SVT-less.
I am not a snob... just proud
I still won't need slicks to beat you Derek, we've proved this a couple times now. Slicks are for the close-to-stock '03 Cobras I'm hearing about.
Originally posted by RyeLou:
I still won't need slicks to beat you Derek, we've proved this a couple times now. Slicks are for the close-to-stock '03 Cobras I'm hearing about.
What do you plan on running? What trap speed?
Mark
Originally posted by RyeLou:
I still won't need slicks to beat you Derek, we've proved this a couple times now. Slicks are for the close-to-stock '03 Cobras I'm hearing about.
Let's just say for now that you didn't need slick previously to beat me...
Originally posted by Y2KSVT:
Originally posted by RyeLou:
I still won't need slicks to beat you Derek, we've proved this a couple times now. Slicks are for the close-to-stock '03 Cobras I'm hearing about.
What do you plan on running? What trap speed?
Mark
~ 110mph give or take
Originally posted by RyeLou:
Originally posted by Y2KSVT:
Originally posted by RyeLou:
I still won't need slicks to beat you Derek, we've proved this a couple times now. Slicks are for the close-to-stock '03 Cobras I'm hearing about.
What do you plan on running? What trap speed?
Mark
~ 110mph give or take
And your time???
Mark
If I don't hit 12's at SZ you might get to see a WRX drive off a cliff.
Originally posted by WRX Barge:
If I don't hit 12's at SZ you might get to see a WRX drive off a cliff.
It's Indiana. You'll have to bring the cliff with you.
Mark
Originally posted by Y2KSVT:
Originally posted by WRX Barge:
If I don't hit 12's at SZ you might get to see a WRX drive off a cliff.
It's Indiana. You'll have to bring the cliff with you.
Mark
Ill let you drive a real car if you can't make it into the 12's
and Ill build a cliff out of fiberglass for barge to jump it off of
Originally posted by Y2KSVT:
Originally posted by WRX Barge:
If I don't hit 12's at SZ you might get to see a WRX drive off a cliff.
It's Indiana. You'll have to bring the cliff with you.
Mark
How about a parking structure?
whats this talk of cliffs and a wrx going off of it...im really starting to thnk about skipping school and goin to SZ
Originally posted by Y2KSVT:
Originally posted by RyeLou:
Originally posted by Y2KSVT:
Originally posted by RyeLou:
I still won't need slicks to beat you Derek, we've proved this a couple times now. Slicks are for the close-to-stock '03 Cobras I'm hearing about.
What do you plan on running? What trap speed?
Mark
~ 110mph give or take
And your time???
Mark
Mid 12s
Originally posted by RyeLou:
Originally posted by Y2KSVT:
Originally posted by RyeLou:
Originally posted by Y2KSVT:
Originally posted by RyeLou:
I still won't need slicks to beat you Derek, we've proved this a couple times now. Slicks are for the close-to-stock '03 Cobras I'm hearing about.
What do you plan on running? What trap speed?
Mark
~ 110mph give or take
And your time???
Mark
Mid 12s
Hmmmm, mid 12's at 110? I'll have to see that.
Mark
I don't have any timeslips of my own, but if you go over to SRT Forums and look in the Timeslip Database, thats pretty much the average. 107 - 114mph and 11.9 - 12.9 (all depending on what kind of tires/60' time you get)
Mid 12's at that trap pretty much necessitates slicks... which is think ryelou is planning on having.
The times I listed are stock turbo non-nitrous having SRT's with roughly 300whp on slicks. The 11.9 is the fastest with the above criteria (stock turbo no nitrous) and he ran it at 114mph i believe. On average people with my mods get an easy mid 12 with a 1.8 or lower and their speed is usually around 110. Some of the guys who are newer to drag racing or just suck at it will wind up with a high 12s pass. Without slicks, on street tires (drag radials included) theres just too much power all at once to control traction much. Those times will range from a 12.8 or so up to about 13.4 depending on exactly how bad the 60' time is (from 2.0 to 2.2/3)
I don't have slicks now and I'm still debating whether to buy some or not. They're about $150 each and I have the wheels for them already. You can get plenty of runs on them (at least one season, and easiyl two if you don't go too often). My debate is if it's worth the cost or not. I do enjoy drag racing, but I only went three times last year. With the CSVT, I went twice in three years.
Edit: I do actually have a timeslip from my last trip to the track. I ran a 13.3 I believe at 107mph. My 60' time was a 2.1 I believe. I don't recall if I had all of the mods I have now or not though..? The conditions were probably as bad as they can get. 45 degree day with absolutly no track prep. The timing system they had worked on and off that day, so some slips you got wouldn't have certain times or speeds on them. Lapeer is a pretty [censored] track altogether.
I had to, and its a joke
That's fine. I'll have no problem backing up my 12.X 1/4 mile claim.
FYI, I like SRT4's... I just thought the pic was funny
Originally posted by RawBurt:
FYI, I like SRT4's... I just thought the pic was funny
The only reason I won't buy one!
you know what though...the contour isn't much more than what a neon is.
Rear power windows are over rated. And keeping the car at 2900 lbs. more than makes up for it, too.
They weigh THAT MUCH??? For all the "gutted, lightweight, ultra performance" looks and hype, they are relatively heavy!
Something like 2939lbs. or around there. I personally don't think thats all that heavy. They do skip out on some things like rear power windows, but it's not like it's a tin can with a motor?
No.. I don't think that they are "that heavy" either. Its just that an SVT is touted as a "rather" heavy family sedan at 31xx/32xx. I would have thought that a "sub-compact/PERFORMANCE ORIENTED/racing seats and LSD with factory turbo upgrades" having car would be a little further from that than it is.
Originally posted by stilov:
you know what though...the contour isn't much more than what a neon is.
Oh no, better get your flamesuit on because I tried to say as much about the CSVT and SRT-4 Neon
Ryan, I believe you'll hit your prediction w/ slicks because mid 12's and 110 mph are right on target with a good 60 ft time
Rawburt, you have NO exuse for going to Ubly in April. Your half way there already and I now live 1/2 hr closer myself, so we need to do this, just make sure you get everything squared away and I mean everything Everyone else, come on up if you want to because I hear people complaining about not being able to get in alot of passes at Milan and Lapeer is piece of crap track from what alot of people here and other places say. Why not give Ubly a try and afterwards we can back to my place and do some "post-game" show of our showdown
Originally posted by The EX- Striped SVT:
Rawburt, you have NO exuse for going to Ubly in April. Your half way there already and I now live 1/2 hr closer myself, so we need to do this, just make sure you get everything squared away and I mean everything
I should have everything done by that time. But if I dont then uhhhh, I'll wait however long it takes me.
Originally posted by RawBurt:
Originally posted by The EX- Striped SVT:
Rawburt, you have NO exuse for going to Ubly in April. Your half way there already and I now live 1/2 hr closer myself, so we need to do this, just make sure you get everything squared away and I mean everything
I should have everything done by that time. But if I dont then uhhhh, I'll wait however long it takes me.
Don't forget the good driver mod. If Roger wants you to be the voice of CEG when it comes to drag racing, I hope you don't walk away with a bunch of 16 second time slips.
Mark
Originally posted by Y2KSVT:
Originally posted by RawBurt:
Originally posted by The EX- Striped SVT:
Rawburt, you have NO exuse for going to Ubly in April. Your half way there already and I now live 1/2 hr closer myself, so we need to do this, just make sure you get everything squared away and I mean everything
I should have everything done by that time. But if I dont then uhhhh, I'll wait however long it takes me.
Don't forget the good driver mod. If Roger wants you to be the voice of CEG when it comes to drag racing, I hope you don't walk away with a bunch of 16 second time slips.
Mark
I will not be getting any 16 second 1/4 miles... If thats the case I wouldnt even be considering this.
Id like to get a low 16 sec 1/4 mile time
If I go into a race thinking ill be getting an 18 second pass.... I cant be dissapointed when I do better!
Same line of thinking... Im going to dyno 130 / 130 at spring zing
I'm not calling Rawburt the "voice of the CEG", but rather the only person that lives alot closer to Ubly that will actually go. Personally, I'd like Pete and his 3.0L SE to go up there as well, or JD and his 3.0L SE, especially now that he's actually found someone to do fuel rail that doesn't leak
Either way, come April, someone will surely step up and make it up there. I've got a couple reasons for going up there, one is to prove a point, second is to finally take a stick car down the track and finally, to have fun
That being said, its only about 3-4 weeks till Ubly opens, are you guys ready
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I won't have slicks/tubes for a few weeks yet, otherwise I'd be ready. I'm going to the dyno in two hours to see where I'm at.
Originally posted by RyeLou:
I won't have slicks/tubes for a few weeks yet, otherwise I'd be ready. I'm going to the dyno in two hours to see where I'm at.
We want numbers, all of them Ryan
I took upon myself to ask about some 1/4 mile time from the member over at the Crossfire forum and one guy, who lives in NJ and actually got to run his car recently, ran a 14.9 @93 mph on a very hard, no traction track. His 60 ft times were 2.30's, so thats not very good. His only mod was an absolute chip and his car is an automatic. He also posted some other times for his friends car, this one in particular was very interesting
Quote:
2005 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VIII, 5 speed
Best time was 12.987 @ 106.77 mph, high 60' (like 1.9 maybe, he also blew his clutch at the end).
^^^mods^^^
HKS SUCTION INTAKE, TURBO XS BLOWOFF VALVE, HALLMAN BOOST CONTROLLER(22PSI), 3 INCH DOWNPIPE, 3 INCH HELIX CAT-DELETE TESTPIPE, 3 INCH BORLA CATBACK, B+M SHORT SHIFTER, APEXI S-AFC II
SHUT IT AND RUN IT!
Originally posted by Mikey Boy:
SHUT IT AND RUN IT!
As soon as Ubly opens and its dry (4/22 or 4/29), I/we will
www.ublydragway.com
Originally posted by The EX- Striped SVT:
As soon as Ubly opens and its dry (4/22 or 4/29), I/we will
www.ublydragway.com
How about we make it lapeer... 30 minute drive beats an almost 2 hour drive! 
he won't that would mean doing something new, Notice how all the meets are at the same place and if they arn't he doesn't go?????
For real, and what does it matter if lapeer has a so called crappy track... You are racing a lease!!!!
I like lapeer better than milan, I couldn't get [censored] for traction there with the XR4ti.
Originally posted by RawBurt:
For real, and what does it matter if lapeer has a so called crappy track... You are racing a lease!!!!
First of all, don't you live in Almont Secondly, why would it matter if the track is crappy and I have a lease, I don't get that one Finally, its true I've really only ran at Ubly, but thats the place I like but FWIW, I did go to the old Detroit Dragway back in the summer of 97' and finally broke into the 12's there, so I really don't mind a new track. In closing, why in the hell would you say anything about a drive being a problem for me. I don't think you were around back then, but I used to drive across the state about once a month to sit in a library for our SVT/SHO meets and that was about 2 years in a row. Not to mention the Yearend Bash that included a road rally and those were always over on that side of the state. For anyone here to talk sh&t about me not driving anywhere is obsurd, but you've got to consider the source too Oh yeah, how about the 1850 miles I put on my car last year while doing the Dragon Run, would you like me to go on, thought so
Some of the bench racing has moved to here, I guess Steeda can't help himself
Bench racing part duex!
yeah, roger has said this and that about the NEW face of CEG an well it's the same old annoying...I don't care about wat track, but Ubly is out of everyone's way...
Milan or Lapeer...let's just effin do this!
Let's just go to US 131 Dragway over on the west side. Neutral ground :-P
Pete, Rawburt lives in Almont and I now live in Macomb Township which means Ubly is the closest track for us to go to, this is why I wanna go there, besides the fact that I like it there, so its a win win for us! We've got about 6 weeks to go, so get your ducks in a row and lets do this
Originally posted by WRX Barge:
Let's just go to US 131 Dragway over on the west side. Neutral ground :-P
haha, I'm up for it.
F it were going....
But not to ubly how about Kaukana?
its south of Green Bay by like 10 miles. Hell he wants to go where hes comfortable i wanna go where im comfortable.
just proves how rediculous he really is
With all this talk I better see some action come track opening time.
Why don't you all quit bitching and go to every track? Go to Ubly, Lapeer and Milan and then start complaining about which one sucks due to prep/distance of drive/amount of runs you get.
Originally posted by ABC:
Pete, Rawburt lives in Almont and I now live in Macomb Township which means Ubly is the closest track for us to go to
It is not the closest track! Lapeer takes about 20 minutes for me to get there, Ubly is at least an hour+
How about you all quit acting like you're actually going to meet up? Save it for Spring Zing. We'll all be going to the same track, where none of us have any experience. Nobody has an advantage either way. This way, you can get your ass handed to you in front of everyone at Spring Zing, instead of just looking like a bunch of shyte talking fools.
Mark
No drag racing at SZ for me. I was going to either pick dyno or the strip. Well I picked dyno, no I dont have to worry about breaking anything in another state!
My car will be hitting the drag strip as soon as the tracks open... well.. as long as it's in one running piece by then.
As for times.... you'll have to wait for SZ.
Originally posted by RawBurt:
No drag racing at SZ for me. I was going to either pick dyno or the strip. Well I picked dyno, no I dont have to worry about breaking anything in another state!
Less appearance mods... More Torsen/Quaife Mod...
Originally posted by Y2KSVT:
Originally posted by RawBurt:
No drag racing at SZ for me. I was going to either pick dyno or the strip. Well I picked dyno, no I dont have to worry about breaking anything in another state!
Less appearance mods... More Torsen/ Quaife Mod...
Got dat!!!! I have more performance mods then appearence...
Originally posted by WRX Barge:
My car will be hitting the drag strip as soon as the tracks open... well.. as long as it's in one running piece by then.
As for times.... you'll have to wait for SZ.
I better be invited. I'm ready to go myself.
I don't know if I can trust you to keep my secrets...
Originally posted by RawBurt:
Originally posted by Y2KSVT:
Originally posted by RawBurt:
No drag racing at SZ for me. I was going to either pick dyno or the strip. Well I picked dyno, no I dont have to worry about breaking anything in another state!
Less appearance mods... More Torsen/ Quaife Mod...
Got dat!!!! I have more performance mods then appearence...
Then what are you worried about breaking? After the dyno, you'll see that you don't have enough power to brake an axle.
Mark
Originally posted by Y2KSVT:
Originally posted by RawBurt:
Originally posted by Y2KSVT:
Originally posted by RawBurt:
No drag racing at SZ for me. I was going to either pick dyno or the strip. Well I picked dyno, no I dont have to worry about breaking anything in another state!
Less appearance mods... More Torsen/ Quaife Mod...
Got dat!!!! I have more performance mods then appearence...
Then what are you worried about breaking? After the dyno, you'll see that you don't have enough power to brake an axle.
Mark
I dont know, by then ill have over 120k on the car... I'm just not too comforatable with it
But comfortable enough to race in 30 minutes from your house? You've got a Quaife, and a SPEC clutch in there. Might as well take them out and sell them to someone that'll use them.
And yes, this is my way of talking you into racing at SZ!
Pansy.
Mark
Originally posted by Y2KSVT:
But comfortable enough to race in 30 minutes from your house? You've got a Quaife, and a SPEC clutch in there.
Yes, comforatable 30 minutes from my house, that way if I break anything I can call up one of my many power stroke friends and have them tow me home.
Originally posted by Y2KSVT:
Might as well take them out and sell them to someone that'll use them.
Thats not an issue, I use this stuff everyday... Trust me
Originally posted by Y2KSVT:
And yes, this is my way of talking you into racing at SZ!
Well keep trying because you havent convinced me yet...
Originally posted by RawBurt:
Originally posted by Y2KSVT:
And yes, this is my way of talking you into racing at SZ!
Well keep trying because you havent convinced me yet...
Me, Steeda and Barge are throwing you a blanket party when you get here. Is that convincing enough?
Mark
Originally posted by Y2KSVT:
Me, Steeda and Barge are throwing you a blanket party when you get here. Is that convincing enough?
Mark
You guys think I'm an annoyance
Originally posted by RawBurt:
Originally posted by Y2KSVT:
Me, Steeda and Barge are throwing you a blanket party when you get here. Is that convincing enough?
Mark
You guys think I'm an annoyance
With Extra Long tube socks and oversized bars of Soap!
Originally posted by RawBurt:
Originally posted by Y2KSVT:
Me, Steeda and Barge are throwing you a blanket party when you get here. Is that convincing enough?
Mark
You guys think I'm an annoyance
Nah, you gotta say more than 3 words the entire weekend for me to consider you an annoyance. Just busting your ballz Robert!
Mark
Originally posted by SteedaSVTââ??¢:
With Extra Long tube socks and oversized bars of Soap!
Now this is something I truely fear... Steeda walking at me with a blanket, extra long tube socks, and oversized bars of soap!!!
Originally posted by RawBurt:
Originally posted by SteedaSVTââ??¢:
With Extra Long tube socks and oversized bars of Soap!
Now this is something I truely fear... Steeda walking at me with a blanket, extra long tube socks, and oversized bars of soap!!!
BWAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Originally posted by RawBurt:
Originally posted by SteedaSVTââ??¢:
With Extra Long tube socks and oversized bars of Soap!
Now this is something I truely fear... Steeda walking at me with a blanket, extra long tube socks, and oversized bars of soap!!!
obviously, you don't know what a blanket party is... as it is something you should definitely fear if you've been targeted. hope you enjoy yours at SZ!
"oh I can't drive a hour to the track"
"oh wait and see me beat you"
"oh I got secret mods"
"oh my puss hurts"
All I see is certain pansy MI CEGers making excuses why they don't want to run at the track with Roger. Seems to me that they are AFRAID of a little Crossfire.
Before you say anything about me....I drive 1.5-2 hours to WI to run at the strip. So don't complain to me about driving.
I am done...if you got something to say to me....call me 630-205-5759.
Originally posted by LocoGSR:
"oh I can't drive a hour to the track"
"oh wait and see me beat you"
"oh I got secret mods"
"oh my puss hurts"
All I see is certain pansy MI CEGers making excuses why they don't want to run at the track with Roger. Seems to me that they are AFRAID of a little Crossfire.
Before you say anything about me....I drive 1.5-2 hours to WI to run at the strip. So don't complain to me about driving.
I am done...if you got something to say to me....call me 630-205-5759.
no one is afraid to race him, trust me.
but nobody except him wants to drive 2 hours out of our way to do it.
i personally think rogers sticking with ubly because he knows none of us will bother going up there... so it's safe for him. 
Indeed, and why does anyone wanna call you hector???
Sorry but i don't wanna waste my anytime minutes!
Dude, it's night and weekend minutes right now.
But anyways, I went back a good many post and don't see nuthing bout a crossfire. Guessin I missed something.
EDIT: Nevermind, found it posted 15+ days ago.
And hector, don't put your number on the internet. If I had a few more screwdrivers, I'd be calling you right now.
If Rog comes to Lapeer Ill race em...since it a mile from my house, I dont really care I break down there..since no one else seems to want to race and and he wants to race someone Ill do it...I know ill lose but someones gotta do it