Semi-Tuned Dyno run @ 3.5 psi

Damn she's rich - get her up to 12.5:1 and about 10psi and LOOK OUT!

Looks good. Running rich though.

I'm guessing that during the winter the uncorrected numbers are going to be higher than the corrected numbers....meaning the engine will definitely perform much better in cold dense air than it will in the heat of summer.
Be nice if you also showed those since most dyno's are posted with some sort of temperature and pressure correction. There's SAE, STD and some others.

I noticed it said 9.5CR...does this thing have forged pistons or is that head work that did that? If pistons...why only 10psi...how about 15...16...20

OEM aftermakret replacement pistons (not forged or lower CR) CR was lowered through the head work.

Rick

So when that thing finally sees some real boost we gonna have a new record on our hands or what? Looking sweet so far!

You better bring that ish to Colorado one time so I can get a ride!

Jim's car would own eveyrone if he had it tuned porperly and turned up the boost....well at least for now.

Originally posted by Stazi:
Jim's car would own eveyrone if he had it tuned porperly and turned up the boost....well at least for now.

hmmmm....somethin fishy about that statement....

Not to speak for Jim or anything, but come Spring time and when the weather clears, final tuning will be high priority. That thing is going to be a monster!

Mark

great job, looking good so far!! keep us posted!!

I'm not looking to be any HP/TQ record setter, I just want a usable amount of power. Once I get my mits on a kick ass EBC that adjusts the boost per wheel speed or the like, I will fine tune with it in hopes of being able to run usable amounts of boost.

Jim (and perhaps Stazi or Stlov....WHEN they finish their cars

) will be running much more boost and will be able to run higher numbers.

Yes, it's a bit rich.... but deffinatly room for improvment. BTW, the shop was in the 50's when the dyno run was made. I just wish they'd gone to redline to show the actual HP it can put down in it's currant state.

What's your target PSI?

12psi is the target for now, but that might be more power for daily driving than I want.

One major issue I've had ever since installing my turbo 3L into my Contour. I now have boost dependant turrets syndrome

"Holy F&%^!" ::twitch twitch::

Swazo,

Maybe a timed boost controller is what you might want. I friend has one in his 99 SI. He could set X amount of seconds and it would go from low boost to high boost. He had it change for him sometime right after he shifted to 3rd.

Just a thought.

E.

Originally posted by Swazo:
I'm not looking to be any HP/TQ record setter, I just want a usable amount of power.

That's the key, in a FWD platform sure high HP/TQ numbers look good...but is it usable?

Originally posted by RTStabler51:

Originally posted by Swazo:
I'm not looking to be any HP/TQ record setter, I just want a usable amount of power.

That's the key, in a FWD platform sure high HP/TQ numbers look good...but is it usable?

Now I'm putting a lot of effort into making my car able to use the power it will be putting down.
*H&R Springs(already have) w/ Blistien struts(still need)
*SF connectors (GB)
*LCA box-in plates (GB)
*Shore 94A roll restrictors(already have)
*Axels that are snap resistant (Will need

)
*GOOD EBC to properly put down the power onhand(still need and am doing my research)
*Light weight wheels w/ 235-245 meats(still need)

Originally posted by Swazo:

Originally posted by RTStabler51:

Originally posted by Swazo:
I'm not looking to be any HP/TQ record setter, I just want a usable amount of power.

That's the key, in a FWD platform sure high HP/TQ numbers look good...but is it usable?

Now I'm putting a lot of effort into making my car able to use the power it will be putting down.
*H&R Springs(already have) w/ Blistien struts(still need)
*SF connectors (GB)
*LCA box-in plates (GB)
*Shore 94A roll restrictors(already have)
*Axels that are snap resistant (Will need )
*GOOD EBC to properly put down the power onhand(still need and am doing my research)
*Light weight wheels w/ 235-245 meats(still need)

+ new longer studs and 25mm spacers!

Why? Unless he's got 13" brakes with wheels that won't clear, I see no reason to add spacers. Why push your wheels out if you don't have to?

Mark

Originally posted by Y2KSVT:
Why? Unless he's got 13" brakes with wheels that won't clear, I see no reason to add spacers. Why push your wheels out if you don't have to?

Mark

how is he gonna fit 8" of rubber in those wheel wells!?

Originally posted by MapOfTaziFoShoâ�??¢:

Originally posted by Y2KSVT:
Why? Unless he's got 13" brakes with wheels that won't clear, I see no reason to add spacers. Why push your wheels out if you don't have to?

Mark

how is he gonna fit 8" of rubber in those wheel wells!?

235's will fit all day long

Originally posted by Buckshot77:
245/45/16's here on SSR GT1 rims. I used a 5mm spacer in the rear to clear the struts and then some major fender rolling and trimming to get them fit in the rear. Of course I'm also running on eibachs so undropped cars shouldhave as much problem with rubbing. They tires fit perfectly up front with no spacers.

I had some 245/50/16's(drag radials) on the front, on stock E1's

Only had them on a couple of days for when I went to the track. They'd rub on quick turns, and the abs light would come on over 45mph. But I wouldn't think he'd be running that large of a sidewall.

Mark

Originally posted by Y2KSVT:
I had some 245/50/16's(drag radials) on the front, on stock E1's Only had them on a couple of days for when I went to the track. They'd rub on quick turns, and the abs light would come on over 45mph. But I wouldn't think he'd be running that large of a sidewall.

Mark

Still got those tires?

I actually was borrowing them from a friend of mine. He had them on his SHO. They're actually perfect fit for a Mustang.

Mark

I've got a full set of 245/45/16's brand new if anyone is interested in them.

Rick

I've been putting some decent milage on my car lately with no problems what at all. Everything is going well, and I am getting ready to get some dyno time in for the final tuning and to turn up the boost.

Any guesses as to what my car will put down @ 12 psi?

Assuming consistant tune, on a mustang dyno, I say 370.

Originally posted by Swazo:
I've been putting some decent milage on my car lately with no problems what at all. Everything is going well, and I am getting ready to get some dyno time in for the final tuning and to turn up the boost.

Any guesses as to what my car will put down @ 12 psi?

On the same dyno with minimum temperature/humidity/Baro pressure standardization.....

325 wHP.

I doubt that's all I will get with this setup. Luckily for me and others, you paved the way for DIY turbo kits on Contiques. Before, people were scoffed at for doing anything other than a ADC/SF turbo kit.
I noted what you had done with your previous kit, what you had noted as possible upgrades and used them as a starting point and I added my own ideas into the mix. My 3L itself is another aspect that was improved upon.

In all reality, I would have gotten 270HP +/- if my dyno run had gone to redline. I had a misfire issue that kept me from doing so. That was also on 3.5psi, 91 octane and so-so timing.

Now my car is performing much better on the same tune I ran that day, and an altered version with less fuel.

Sorry, I thought you dyno'd on a mustang dyno. I figured on somewhat lower than dynojet readings (assuming they aren't corrected to match dynojet).

12psi on a dynoject, probably 350 on the low end to be honest with your present tune. It hasn't been optimized yet. Depending on fuel, timing, temperature, grade of gas, as much as 400whp.

Either way I know you will do very very well! Trust me, I WANT you to have the highest numbers to date. I expect that if you can run 14psi, that you will handily break 400HP.

You're right about the mustang dyno, but the first numbers were uncorrected to begin with

. I'll be using the same dyno and the weather is more or less the same as it was in december when the first run was made.

Now it's down to getting enough time to take it down there. The plan is to work on the currant tune while running 3.5psi, then turn up the boost (target is 12psi, but we'll see) with 91 octane in mind. Then, I'll be doing a race/dyno queen tune for 113 octane

what about me Tom? Do you want me to do well? (in a whiney voice)

You can sustain about 6 psi on your current tune. I wouldn't be afraid to take it to six with the way your car looked with the last run as long as your intercooler is working fine. That may give you a better understanding now of how your fuel delivery system is going to react to increased boost (i.e. is it GOING to work

) and will save you time on your way to get 12psi. I was able to run 5.83psi, you know...the yellow spring for the Tial wastegate...without an intercooler and minimal tuning and it was pretty good until I got the engine really hot on like my third run down the strip where I popped those pistons.

Oh, I forgot to update you on the fact that I increased my boost level to 12psi this weekend and have been running it that way going back and forth to work. HOLY smokes it is insane. I don't think stock axles are going to last if I were to leave it there all the time. In the morning there is NO WAY to hold traction in third gear beyond half throttle!

If I'm holding the speed constant in third, you know around 4500, maybe 60mph or so and I start gently rolling into an acceleration, it will just break the tires free so that I'm doing 70mph and I'm spinning out! Of course keeping it about 1/2 to 2/3 throttle under accel can keep traction.
When it warmed up during the day I was able to hold traction on good road if I rolled easy into the throttle in 3rd gear....and it felt like I was in 1st gear at about 6psi!

Hahahaha (all up to the posted speed limits on the highway of course!)
I can leave my car in 5th and still outaccelerate most cars from 50mph.

No, I hate YOUR car!

Of course, but you can have your crack at the title after he takes it!

good point...

Originally posted by warmonger:
You can sustain about 6 psi on your current tune. I wouldn't be afraid to take it to six with the way your car looked with the last run as long as your intercooler is working fine. That may give you a better understanding now of how your fuel delivery system is going to react to increased boost (i.e. is it GOING to work ) and will save you time on your way to get 12psi. I was able to run 5.83psi, you know...the yellow spring for the Tial wastegate...without an intercooler and minimal tuning and it was pretty good until I got the engine really hot on like my third run down the strip where I popped those pistons.

Oh, I forgot to update you on the fact that I increased my boost level to 12psi this weekend and have been running it that way going back and forth to work. HOLY smokes it is insane. I don't think stock axles are going to last if I were to leave it there all the time. In the morning there is NO WAY to hold traction in third gear beyond half throttle!
If I'm holding the speed constant in third, you know around 4500, maybe 60mph or so and I start gently rolling into an acceleration, it will just break the tires free so that I'm doing 70mph and I'm spinning out! Of course keeping it about 1/2 to 2/3 throttle under accel can keep traction.
When it warmed up during the day I was able to hold traction on good road if I rolled easy into the throttle in 3rd gear....and it felt like I was in 1st gear at about 6psi! Hahahaha (all up to the posted speed limits on the highway of course!)
I can leave my car in 5th and still outaccelerate most cars from 50mph.

man i'd love to go for a ride in that car...if i drive all the way to ala. we could go for a spin right?....i was watching a vid on streetfire with a srt4,it was riding down the road had it in third and spun the tires at 70mph..and they were all like freaking out...i imagine you being the same way

..i would

Except remember his SVT weighs about 3500lbs with him in it and it has sticky 245/45'/17's on it. Blowing the tires free at half throttle in 3rd (70mph) is beyond insane.

Well past 350 wheels I bet.

Oh yeah that's bouncing off the limiter, 350+ HP, and stock rods. Who knew.

Yep, IF you come down here to visit, we'll go for a ride on a back road. It has a few twisties in it and even going at the speed limit will be fun.

Of course unless I sell it that is.

Originally posted by DemonSVT:
Except remember his SVT weighs about 3500lbs with him in it and it has sticky 245/45'/17's on it. Blowing the tires free at half throttle in 3rd (70mph) is beyond insane. Well past 350 wheels I bet.

Oh yeah that's bouncing off the limiter, 350+ HP, and stock rods. Who knew.

Yep, you're correct, it did suprise me a bit. Now I have to modulate the pedal even in third, but I can shift into 5th by 50mph and never have to downshift again lol!
Oh, and the fuel.....it sucks down the gas at 12psi. I just thought you guys should know that.
I still got 16.8 mostly city with a bit of mixed highway. I don't know if that sucks or not, but it sure is a hell of a lot better than I used to get! lol
With my ADC chip I'd only get 12-13 in the city at around 8-9psi.

I'm not going to leave it up there all the time. I just want to run around town pegging som high boost acceleration and testing the reliability of it for a little while. With the traction issues though it is totally NOT FEASIBLE to run a 3L on 12psi and 10:1 compression for anthing but a low/high boost switch when you hit 4th gear plus.

With a two-stage boost controller and this tune, I'd run 5psi low and probably 10-12psi high.

I'm thinking of taking some video of the dash on one of my little back road jaunts this week.....

Originally posted by warmonger:

I'm thinking of taking some video of the dash on one of my little back road jaunts this week.....

And I'll gladly watch those vids.

Originally posted by Derk-xB:

Originally posted by warmonger:

I'm thinking of taking some video of the dash on one of my little back road jaunts this week.....

And I'll gladly watch those vids.

I remember a documentary a while ago of some ones car. At the end they where in your car, and the screen read something like coming this summer!! U where pulling into a spot at a gas station!!!

I believe it was with about a cougar doing pulls on the road and e-way/drag strip?? And then at the end ur car??

SO lets complete that video. I would really like to see ur car.!!

Originally posted by Arhethia:

Originally posted by Derk-xB:

Originally posted by warmonger:

I'm thinking of taking some video of the dash on one of my little back road jaunts this week.....

And I'll gladly watch those vids.

I remember a documentary a while ago of some ones car. At the end they where in your car, and the screen read something like coming this summer!! U where pulling into a spot at a gas station!!!

I believe it was with about a cougar doing pulls on the road and e-way/drag strip?? And then at the end ur car??

SO lets complete that video. I would really like to see ur car.!!

anybody have a link to that video?

Congrats on the dyno pull, even if it was only 3.5lbs thats damn impressive and is enough for the street, thats for sure. I say this because I drove JD's Dads car last weekend (2.5L built w/ turbo putting out 12 psi) and it was overwhelming the front tires and I can't imagine that thing set at its 17 psi level where it pulled 400 hp. Good luck with your car and keep us posted when you crank it up

Video yet?

It turns out the phone guesstimate was off a bit on the torque (I was told 350/360

). But considering that this mustang dyno is the lowest in town by 40-50HP/TQ, I'm happy. I should be getting some dyno runs of other cars (Terminators and Lightnings) that are easier to tell if this dyno is a ringer or not.

They're only running it to 6K, which limited the HP output shown.

This was on 10 psi, 12+ psi was popping the PCV valve off and would oil the turbo up little bit, and smoke out the shop

I'm going to redo my PCV system a little and wrap a few other things up, and go in for the 12-14psi run. I may even get a dynojet run to show what I'd get on one..... if the price is right w/o an AFR run

Warmonger was right about the outside temp playing a factor. This was at 70 or more.

More dyno time in the very near future after I play with the tune a little more and refine my setup.

Those are some awesome numbers

, they're very close to Warmonger's. Do you guys have the same setup? How bout some vids in the near future?

I wish I had money for a turbo kit and didnt have a pos slushbox.

Originally posted by TC'd Swazo:
It turns out the phone guesstimate was off a bit on the torque (I was told 350/360 ). But considering that this mustang dyno is the lowest in town by 40-50HP/TQ, I'm happy. I should be getting some dyno runs of other cars (Terminators and Lightnings) that are easier to tell if this dyno is a ringer or not.

They're only running it to 6K, which limited the HP output shown. This was on 10 psi, 12+ psi was popping the PCV valve off and would oil the turbo up little bit, and smoke out the shop

I'm going to redo my PCV system a little and wrap a few other things up, and go in for the 12-14psi run. I may even get a dynojet run to show what I'd get on one..... if the price is right w/o an AFR run

Warmonger was right about the outside temp playing a factor. This was at 70 or more.

More dyno time in the very near future after I play with the tune a little more and refine my setup.

Those are very good numbers and pretty good air fuel. You should be good for 12-14psi once you clamp everything down.
Make sure that 3.5# wastegate spring isn't opening just from the exhaust pressure on its own like mine was, that will limit peak power significantly.

Once I get all these little issues worked out, I may switch over to the larger spring for good messure.

Originally posted by 99SEsport2004:
Those are some awesome numbers , they're very close to Warmonger's. Do you guys have the same setup? How bout some vids in the near future?

I wish I had money for a turbo kit and didnt have a pos slushbox.

Thanks. Yes, I have a very simular setup to Warmongers. I just looked at his last run again and about

when I saw how close my numbers are to his.

ADC will have something for your slushbox Contour