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Posted By: Steeda. SHO Vs CSVT - 07/11/05 02:32 PM
MxRacerCam and Myself have decided to race. (Obviously at the Track).

00 SVT Contour
Vs
92 Yamaha SHO


We have decided that the winner gets a Singular Cheeto...

Who do you think is gonna win? the race is gonna happen soon maybe even today?

Posted By: MxRacer Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/11/05 02:36 PM
i refuse to race until you stop calling your dammed taurus a "yamaha".
Posted By: Steeda. Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/11/05 02:38 PM
You have no choice its on!!!

in maybe t minus 4 hours
Posted By: todras_dup1 Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/11/05 02:41 PM
You WILL get owned by the SHO. It's a 3.2 MTX on top of that. Double owned. Hell I'll run ya in my 3L Yamaha.
Posted By: MxRacer Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/11/05 02:42 PM
you don't know what i have done, toddles. we'll just have to see, won't we?
Posted By: Steeda. Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/11/05 02:44 PM
I have a K&N drop in.. I think i got ya!
Posted By: Y2KSVT Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/11/05 02:44 PM
Yes, please quit calling it a Yamaha. Everybody knows what motor is in the SHO's.

Back on topic. Are both cars stock? Is the SHIZZO an ATX? MTX? Stock wheels? Aren't you both, if not one of you into the huge stereo crap? Will it be removed? You guys should know that asking general questions will get you general answers.

If both are stock, and you can drive the SHO, you should probably take him by a couple of tenths.

Mark
Posted By: todras_dup1 Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/11/05 02:44 PM
I don't care what you have done. If you don't have some F.I. you'll see his tails.
Posted By: Steeda. Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/11/05 02:45 PM
yes mines stock

and we both have massive systems

I have a new clutch too... I better some how rack up 700 aprox miles in 4 hours
Posted By: rkneeshaw Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/11/05 02:55 PM
Originally posted by Plain ole' todras:
I don't care what you have done. If you don't have some F.I. you'll see his tails.




What do those early-90's SHOs run? I know they're fast cars, but I didnt' think they were THAT fast. You don't think a 3L SVT could provide some good competition?

I hope your 3L SE runs faster that your SHO just because I think it looks so much better
Posted By: Y2KSVT Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/11/05 02:55 PM
Originally posted by Plain ole' todras:
I don't care what you have done. If you don't have some F.I. you'll see his tails.






Pretty bold statement. I know that you're familiar with Chuck, and more than likely all of his SHO's. His most recent blue 93 SHO had a 3.2L swap into his MTX car, and my little 3.0L would pull on him N/A vs. N/A. I think that with all bolt-ons in the CSVT and a near perfect launch, he could hang neck and neck with a 3.2L MTX SHO.

Mark
Posted By: todras_dup1 Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/11/05 02:58 PM
But Dave doesn't have a 3L swap. It's a 2.5 that I know of. A 3L tour would be another story. Still close though.
Posted By: todras_dup1 Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/11/05 03:00 PM
Originally posted by rkneeshaw3.0:


I hope your 3L SE runs faster that your SHO just because I think it looks so much better




That's a given.
Posted By: todras_dup1 Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/11/05 03:03 PM
Ask chang about SHO's. He's got just about every mod for his 2.5L. True duals, chip, Apexi etc. Smoke him every time. I've beat WRX's with mine. Maybe he was a crap driver I don't know. SHO on a roll in 3rd is a terror. I can run with a lot of stuff on the hwy for sure. Shocked a lot of ppl for sure.
Posted By: Steeda. Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/11/05 03:06 PM
Originally posted by rkneeshaw3.0:
Originally posted by Plain ole' todras:
I don't care what you have done. If you don't have some F.I. you'll see his tails.




What do those early-90's SHOs run? I know they're fast cars, but I didnt' think they were THAT fast. You don't think a 3L SVT could provide some good competition?

I hope your 3L SE runs faster that your SHO just because I think it looks so much better




Ive seen slips of 14.7 out of stock 92's
Mods you say?

Dynomax cat back
Superchip
C&L 73mm Maf
Port and Polish Intake
No A/C system
eibach/tociko
new plugs and wires
newer engine?
ohh ya K&N can't forget the 20hp
brand new clutch well not brand new but like 900 miles on it
some other randomness


Ill rev the [censored] up to 9K before i shift i dno't care anymore:)
Posted By: Steeda. Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/11/05 03:09 PM
With the old engine i ran a 15.3@94mph with 5 cyls firing. one of the wires had a crack all the way down the boot and the plug wouldn't fire.
Posted By: todras_dup1 Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/11/05 03:14 PM
Yep. Usually high 14's with a good driver. Hopefully you don't grenade the tranny with a diff. pin turned projectile.
Posted By: Y2KSVT Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/11/05 03:24 PM
Originally posted by Plain ole' todras:
But Dave doesn't have a 3L swap. It's a 2.5 that I know of. A 3L tour would be another story. Still close though.




Only stating that a decently modded 2.5L could probably hang. Assuming that Chad didn't just BS us all, his 14.7 run shows that he's atleast within range of a 3.2L MTX SHO.

However, we now know the mods on the SHO, so unless the moon and the stars are perfectly alligned, or the SHO(like all SHO's) breaks down, the SVT doesn't have much chance(unless he breaks out the Sneaky Pete).

Mark
Posted By: todras_dup1 Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/11/05 03:26 PM
Originally posted by Y2KSVT:
or the SHO(like all SHO's)




Posted By: Y2KSVT Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/11/05 04:01 PM
Sorry,
Just my take on the SHO's. 10-15 years old or not, they're not exactly the most dependable/reliable cars in my eyes. I owned one and my best friend owned one. Neither of us had much luck with ours, and they were both mint cars for the most part when we bought them.

Mark
Posted By: Mystique97 Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/11/05 04:07 PM
Originally posted by Plain ole' todras:
Originally posted by Y2KSVT:
or the SHO(like all SHO's)









The only SHOs that had problems were the Gen3 ones with the Cam failure, easy fix too. Makes the car run better too.
F.Y.I. my dad had a 1999 SHO and got the Cam problem fixed car ran awesome after that.
I even drove it, pretty fast car.
Posted By: Y2KSVT Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/11/05 04:16 PM
Originally posted by mystique97:
The only SHOs that had problems were the Gen3 ones




LOL at the young kid!

Don't get me wrong, the SHO's are pretty awesome cars, and have considered owning another one. But for what they are(10-15 year old car that takes premium fuel, and a lot of TLC and $$$$), I just can't bring myself to buy another.

Mark
Posted By: Mystique97 Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/11/05 04:23 PM
Originally posted by Y2KSVT:
Originally posted by mystique97:
The only SHOs that had problems were the Gen3 ones




LOL at the young kid!





Young kid? I'm almost 21.





I know the Gen1s and the Gen2s are getting old. Thats what happens when a car ages, it has problems. DUH!
Posted By: Steeda. Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/11/05 04:42 PM
ps the 14.7 time is a 3.0MTX stock at that too..
Posted By: todras_dup1 Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/11/05 04:48 PM
The engine's are tough as hell. Everything else isn't the greatest though. Suspension etc.
Posted By: Steeda. Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/11/05 04:49 PM
thats why i changed all that crap!

Im done workin on it i think it gets rather annoying!
Posted By: Steeda. Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/11/05 06:52 PM
2 hours
Posted By: stilov Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/11/05 06:57 PM
I had a stock 93 ATX SHO and raced it against my 98 CVST that had intake, exhaust, ud pulley, lsd and spec clutch. They were almost equal. We raced about 3 or 4 times and switched driver's in both cars. the MTX is much faster than the ATX...so take it for what you will.
Posted By: svt4stv Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/11/05 07:00 PM
i vote for the SHO by a few tenths. i was keeping up with one till about third and then he just pulled away from me.
Posted By: The Five-Oh! Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/11/05 07:03 PM
all this for one cheeto haha, not even a bag, jsut one.
Posted By: Steeda. Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/11/05 07:09 PM
If hes within a Second of me ill be surprised...

and yes its for one Cheeto, We are each bringing a bag and the winner gets one of the others cheeto. Should make for an intense race!
Posted By: Barge Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/11/05 07:11 PM
Steeda your car is so slow... my old contour gave you the smackdown.
Posted By: DemonSVT_dup1 Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/11/05 07:12 PM
Originally posted by Plain ole' todras:
You WILL get owned by the SHO. It's a 3.2 MTX on top of that. Double owned. Hell I'll run ya in my 3L Yamaha.



3.2L MTX???

People do swaps like that?

~~~as for the race~~~

Contour off the line with a good luanch. Advantage SVT in 1st
Even in 2nd
Advantage SHO in 3rd.

SHO by a good tenth - stock for stock.


PROVIDED OF COURSE the 14 year old SHO is in good running order.
This applies to 1st gen SHO's. Every year they got fatter and slower.
After all they still are sofas on wheels regardless on the nice engine put in them. (only thing good about them actually)
Posted By: DemonSVT_dup1 Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/11/05 07:14 PM
Originally posted by Plain ole' todras:
But Dave doesn't have a 3L swap. It's a 2.5 that I know of. A 3L tour would be another story. Still close though.



Not true. Even a basic 3L swap would beat a SHO.

An SVT swap would not be close.

"Drivers being equal" of course.

However that's not "stock"
Posted By: Steeda. Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/11/05 07:18 PM
Originally posted by DemonSVT:
Originally posted by Plain ole' todras:
You WILL get owned by the SHO. It's a 3.2 MTX on top of that. Double owned. Hell I'll run ya in my 3L Yamaha.



3.2L MTX???

People do swaps like that?

~~~as for the race~~~

Contour off the line with a good luanch. Advantage SVT in 1st
Even in 2nd
Advantage SHO in 3rd.

SHO by a good tenth - stock for stock.


PROVIDED OF COURSE the 14 year old SHO is in good running order.
This applies to 1st gen SHO's. Every year they got fatter and slower.
After all they still are sofas on wheels regardless on the nice engine put in them. (only thing good about them actually)




The 14yr old SHO is ownd by me soo What do you think greg? Ill smoke him off the line and at the end. and my car isn't stock i have a K&N

Just like i beat you in that AutoX. ohh damn thats right you beat me

and I was runnin off of 5 cyls barge! and guess what it was still close

Posted By: DemonSVT_dup1 Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/11/05 07:23 PM
Not exactly.

I said advantange to the SVT in 1st.
Even in 2nd. (only because the SHO is taller geared, the SVT accelerates faster)
Advantage in 3rd to the SHO because it has a stronger powerband then the smaller 2.5L engine.

Since you will be in 3rd gear roughly half the 1/4 mile this is why the SHO wins.

If it were a road race the SVT would rip up on the SHO because of better gearing and far superior handling. It's a straight line race though. Advantage to the bigger engine.


As for my old 2.5L engine. It whooped up on SHO's. Then again it wasn't stock either.
Posted By: Steeda. Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/11/05 07:26 PM
no its pretty much exactly how i said it
Ill get him off the line too

I'll get him by over a second! and your Old 2.5 never raced me
Posted By: MxRacer Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/11/05 09:58 PM
whelp....

looks like most of you were right.... he beat me by a little over a tenth of a second. 14.103 to my 14.244.

my car is still much cooler looking though!
Posted By: Y2KSVT Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/11/05 10:04 PM
Originally posted by MxRacerCam:
my 14.244.




Nice run! What are your mods again?

Mark
Posted By: beyondloadedSE_dup1 Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/11/05 10:14 PM
Originally posted by Y2KSVT:
Originally posted by MxRacerCam:
my 14.244.




Nice run! What are your mods again?

Mark




id would at least expect a 3.0L with a run like that. Congrats.
Posted By: DemonSVT_dup1 Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/11/05 10:29 PM
Originally posted by MxRacerCam:
looks like most of you were right.... he beat me by a little over a tenth of a second. 14.103 to my 14.244.

my car is still much cooler looking though!



...and what track did you just run at during the middle of a Monday???

I don't by either time for either car personally.
Posted By: The Five-Oh! Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/11/05 10:34 PM
They ran at the Lapeer strip here in MI
Posted By: GTO Pete Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/11/05 10:39 PM
Timeslips please.
Posted By: MxRacer Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/11/05 10:44 PM
i'll post it asap. my scanner is broken though... and my fiancee has my camera.
Posted By: Marky_dup1 Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/11/05 10:53 PM
Originally posted by Stealth Steeda:
yes mines stock

and we both have massive systems

I have a new clutch too... I better some how rack up 700 aprox miles in 4 hours




Thought they were joking when I saw this.
Posted By: GS474 Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/11/05 11:15 PM
so Stealth Steeda how did that victory cheetoe taste
Posted By: Ray_dup1 Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/11/05 11:40 PM
Originally posted by MxRacerCam:
i'll post it asap. my scanner is broken though... and my fiancee has my camera.




BWAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHA

FUNNY


Ray
Posted By: JB1 Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/12/05 12:27 AM
Originally posted by SVT PETE:
Timeslips please.


i too require proof to believe this 14.244
Posted By: Y2KSVT Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/12/05 01:15 AM
This thread is gheyer than Steeda and Mx combined!



Mark
Posted By: MxRacer Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/12/05 01:18 AM
impatient mofo's!





btw.. he may have the faster car, but i still beat him to the traps!
Posted By: DopePope Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/12/05 01:39 AM
what the nawz
Posted By: Steeda. Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/12/05 02:01 AM
CHeeto was amazing!! might have been the greatest cheeto ever!

New engine is a SCREAMER!!!!!


ya it is really ghey especially when we have proof.. hmmmmmm
Posted By: DemonSVT_dup1 Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/12/05 03:13 AM
Originally posted by Y2KSVT:
This thread is gheyer than Steeda and Mx combined!





Posted By: starjammir Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/12/05 03:35 AM
AWW to bad I didnt know you were going to Lapeer...I woulda meet up with ya since I live not 2 miles from the strip. Maybe next time...btw how much did it cost you?
Posted By: Steeda. Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/12/05 03:46 AM
Originally posted by DemonSVT:
Originally posted by Y2KSVT:
This thread is gheyer than Steeda and Mx combined!











Don't be mad Twan.....

Other people in this world can drive too... and i Never claimed my car was stock by anymeans.... But you can believe whatever you want. Want me to video tape teh [censored] next time? I would love to see your 2.5 even come close to keepin up with this SHO Greg!! and about your handeling comment i have checked and they make aftermarket suspension parts for the SHO too... Soo don't think your car is that much faster in the twisties either!

It was a great race. I personally don't care if you belive us or not. Posted slip's what else do you want?
Posted By: Ray_dup1 Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/12/05 04:42 AM
Uhm... last I checked Greg had a 3L... and it runs "just" a bit faster than your SHO... IIRC, his worked 2.5 ran faster as well...


Ray

Posted By: carzyjay Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/12/05 09:39 AM
when i had the 2.5 with bolt on's i beat 3. about a car. he was talking alot of trash, and i have 19'' rims too. what sho, out with the old and in with the new svt.
Posted By: todras_dup1 Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/12/05 12:15 PM
Originally posted by carzyjay:
when i had the 2.5 with bolt on's i beat 3. about a car. he was talking alot of trash, and i have 19'' rims too. what sho, out with the old and in with the new svt.




Posted By: Auto-X Fil Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/12/05 12:33 PM
Originally posted by Plain ole' todras:
Originally posted by carzyjay:
when i had the 2.5 with bolt on's i beat 3. about a car. he was talking alot of trash, and i have 19'' rims too. what sho, out with the old and in with the new svt.









Also: you need a good foundation to make a car handle. Mods or not, the Contour had decent geometry, the Taurus sucks. And it's a heavy SOB.

And, Greg is kind of on a different level. Somehow he makes sweet PnP love to Duratecs of all sizes and makes them give him more power. I think it's voodoo, but I'm sure his 2.5L voodoo beat SHOs. His mid 13 sec 3.0L voodoo sure does!
Posted By: todras_dup1 Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/12/05 12:36 PM
Originally posted by Auto-X Fil:

Also: you need a good foundation to make a car handle. Mods or not, the Contour had decent geometry, the Taurus sucks. And it's a heavy SOB.





No & no. SHO with a suspension does very well. And it's not much heavier than a Contour.
Posted By: Auto-X Fil Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/12/05 12:39 PM
300 lbs more... that's a lot. Or were the earlier ones lighter?

And the geometry just isn't as good. It's fixable, but limiting travel with stiff springs and bushings, but it's still not as good as the Contour. I've seen them Auto-x, and they were not nearly as nimble as me.
Posted By: todras_dup1 Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/12/05 12:42 PM
1989 3300
1990-1991 3380
1992-1995 5-speed 3425

Contour is like 3100-3150 I think.
Posted By: Auto-X Fil Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/12/05 01:26 PM
Okay. I race at 2900 wet, no driver. SVTs are a good bit heavier.
Posted By: Steeda. Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/12/05 01:32 PM
bla bla bla...

You people crack me up lol. I know who Demon is i have met/raced him im sure i know what his 2.5 was able to do. considering i lost to him in a race vs my SVT.

I think alot of you noob's don't realize that i owned a decently mod'd SHO and a CSVT at the same time.
My fav part is when someone says its a heavy beast LOL. Ya just so you know when i put the new engine in it cut out a ton of crap. probaly about 300lbs in wieght(plus the wieght reduction of the CF hood). ohh wow where at the same weight now.

Don't get me wrong but i love the CSVT but some of you clowns have your heads way up your ass!
Posted By: Auto-X Fil Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/12/05 01:35 PM
You didn't exactly give a very comprehensive mod list, then. 300lbs is a fantastic amount of weight.

I have nothing against SHOs. I was just stating some facts about them. Mods like a 10% weight reduction change things.
Posted By: ancientsanskrit Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/12/05 01:43 PM
Cool stuff. I'm still flabbergasted by Dave's time. That's friggin' fast for just bolt-ons.

Ahhhh the Ninjas! lmfao....that thing is from ICP, right?
Posted By: svt4stv Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/12/05 01:44 PM
Originally posted by DemonSVT:
After all they still are sofas on wheels regardless on the nice engine put in them. (only thing good about them actually)




LMFAO!!
i cant wait to use that one the next time im kicking it with the SHO guys!
Posted By: todras_dup1 Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/12/05 01:44 PM
I think I actually agree with Jason. I own both so I think I'm fair to judge. The Yamaha takes to mods better than the Duratec does. I've raced a number of combinations in both cars. I would rather an SVT than a SHO but I'm not going to be jaded by the Contour. I call things as I see them. Win goes to the SHO 9 times out of 10 unless you've got some serious mods to the Contour and the SHO driver sucks. SHO is so much stronger in a straight line due to it's TQ. I think ppl are forgetting that. My 93 put down 191hp and 190 tq with just a catless y-pipe. What mods does Dave have on his car? Intake and exhaust? How did he run a 14.2 with a 2.5 even totally modded? Chad ran a 14.7 supposedly.
Posted By: Quick_SVT Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/12/05 01:45 PM
Awesome times, mod lists for both cars please Mostly interested in your mod list MX! i'd like to follow your mod path
Posted By: Steeda. Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/12/05 02:44 PM
I believe i posted most of my mods before?


I think he has an electric Supercharger and a Ebay +20hp intake chip mod.

But i have been wrong before
Posted By: Y2KSVT Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/12/05 03:19 PM
Originally posted by Stealth Steeda:
I think he has an electric Supercharger and a Ebay +20hp intake chip mod.




Lieing about mods over the internet. Awesome!



Mark
Posted By: todras_dup1 Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/12/05 03:21 PM
Originally posted by Y2KSVT:


Lieing about mods over the internet. Awesome!





Damn I love that gif. LOL!
Posted By: Steeda. Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/12/05 03:22 PM
Get a sense of Humor!!!

Who the [censored] would put an electric supercharger on there car and a resistor on there maf? And i didn't lie its not my car and i dno't know his mod's...

Nor do i really care. Its called a joke or do i need to put (thats a joke) next to it soo you understand?
Posted By: Y2KSVT Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/12/05 03:30 PM
I noticed your attempt at humor, but doubt anyone thought it was funny. I think everyone was waiting for Mx to come on and reply to the question that was focused towards HIS car.

Mark
Posted By: Steeda. Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/12/05 03:33 PM
I thought it was funny and thats all that matters. And Toddles thought it was funny and a few others did as well. So your wrong again!

I don't see him posting his mods anytime soon since i raced him and i have no clue wtf he has.
Posted By: MapOfTaziFoSho Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/12/05 03:44 PM
Can I just come on and say this...Dave did NOT run a 14.2

He has 150 lbs of stereo in his trunk. Minimal mods and yeah didn't happen. This was all a joke...
Posted By: rkneeshaw Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/12/05 03:49 PM
Originally posted by MapOfTaziF�³sh�³:
Can I just come on and say this...Dave did NOT run a 14.2

He has 150 lbs of stereo in his trunk. Minimal mods and yeah didn't happen. This was all a joke...




I'm with him. The bullshiter-o-meter is pegged
Posted By: Steeda. Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/12/05 03:54 PM
Originally posted by MapOfTaziF�³sh�³:
Can I just come on and say this...Dave did NOT run a 14.2






nope can't say it
Posted By: MxRacer Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/12/05 04:06 PM
Originally posted by MapOfTaziF�³sh�³:
Can I just come on and say this...Dave did NOT run a 14.2

He has 150 lbs of stereo in his trunk. Minimal mods and yeah didn't happen. This was all a joke...





pete pete pete.... whens the last time you've seen under my hood? oh... never? oh yeah! lol....

i was quite suprised with steedas time. i didn't expect him to run that fast. rest assured, he won't beat me again.
Posted By: Steeda. Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/12/05 04:07 PM
a 125 shot of Zex should keep me out front whatever your planning on doing!
Posted By: The Five-Oh! Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/12/05 04:07 PM
In light of recent discussion, the times are for real, and Pete, Dave ran a 14.2
Posted By: MxRacer Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/12/05 04:10 PM
Originally posted by Stealth Steeda:
a 125 shot of Zex should keep me out front whatever your planning on doing!





nitrous + anything you've built = total carnage.
Posted By: The Five-Oh! Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/12/05 04:13 PM
Originally posted by MxRacerCam:
Originally posted by Stealth Steeda:
a 125 shot of Zex should keep me out front whatever your planning on doing!





nitrous + anything you've built = total carnage.




Or jsut soon to break
Posted By: Y2KSVT Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/12/05 04:15 PM
This must be the video of Mx applauding Steeda.

http://wimp.com/bragging/

Mark
Posted By: MxRacer Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/12/05 04:18 PM
Originally posted by Y2KSVT:
This must be the video of Mx applauding Steeda.

http://wimp.com/bragging/

Mark




needs more originality.
Posted By: Y2KSVT Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/12/05 04:21 PM
Originally posted by MxRacerCam:
Originally posted by Y2KSVT:
This must be the video of Mx applauding Steeda.

http://wimp.com/bragging/

Mark




needs more originality.




Needs more you answering people's question of what mods you have done. Or you could quit avoiding the question and just tell people you don't want to tell them .

Mark
Posted By: MxRacer Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/12/05 04:22 PM
Originally posted by Y2KSVT:
Originally posted by MxRacerCam:
Originally posted by Y2KSVT:
This must be the video of Mx applauding Steeda.

http://wimp.com/bragging/

Mark




needs more originality.




Needs more you answering people's question of what mods you have done. Or you could quit avoiding the question and just tell people you don't want to tell them .

Mark





i don't want to tell them.
Posted By: The Five-Oh! Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/12/05 04:24 PM
Originally posted by MxRacerCam:
Originally posted by Y2KSVT:
Originally posted by MxRacerCam:
Originally posted by Y2KSVT:
This must be the video of Mx applauding Steeda.

http://wimp.com/bragging/

Mark




needs more originality.




Needs more you answering people's question of what mods you have done. Or you could quit avoiding the question and just tell people you don't want to tell them .

Mark





i don't want to tell them.




there ya go, took long enough!
Posted By: Steeda. Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/12/05 04:27 PM
Originally posted by MxRacerCam:
Originally posted by Stealth Steeda:
a 125 shot of Zex should keep me out front whatever your planning on doing!





nitrous + anything you've built = total carnage.




Thats fine! this engine is strong with a low miles i think the Yamaha will be fine!

Posted By: Ray_dup1 Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/12/05 04:35 PM
Originally posted by Stealth Steeda:
I think alot of you noob's ... some of you clowns have your heads way up your ass!




wow... I can't see WHY I would have ever considered otherwise! I could certainly have understood a rational, thought out, concise list of mods, or reasoning, that some of us "noobs" haven't been privvy to. Thanks for at least including some helpful info amidst the rest of your post.

Now I know...


Ray
Posted By: Barge Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/12/05 04:43 PM
Originally posted by MxRacerCam:
Originally posted by Stealth Steeda:
a 125 shot of Zex should keep me out front whatever your planning on doing!





nitrous + anything you've built = total carnage.




That's why I replaced all the rod bearings
Posted By: Steeda. Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/12/05 04:43 PM
that was in regards to the comment of how a SHO will never handle like a contour. LOL ill put my SHO against a non-SVT any day of the week in a auto-x. hell even SVT's
Posted By: Ray_dup1 Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/12/05 04:45 PM
You see... I agree... "never" handle is a REALLY stupid thing to say.. ANYTHING can handle as well as ANYTHING else, with enough time and money..


"as easily" or "as readily" maybe, but not "never"... So, I agree.


Ray
Posted By: Steeda. Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/12/05 04:45 PM
Originally posted by WRX Barge:
Originally posted by MxRacerCam:
Originally posted by Stealth Steeda:
a 125 shot of Zex should keep me out front whatever your planning on doing!





nitrous + anything you've built = total carnage.




That's why I replaced all the rod bearings


Posted By: Auto-X Fil Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/12/05 04:51 PM
Originally posted by Stealth Steeda:
that was in regards to the comment of how a SHO will never handle like a contour. LOL ill put my SHO against a non-SVT any day of the week in a auto-x. hell even SVT's




Bring it on

Posted By: chrisilversvt_dup1 Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/12/05 04:52 PM
Originally posted by MxRacerCam:
Originally posted by Y2KSVT:
Originally posted by MxRacerCam:
Originally posted by Y2KSVT:
This must be the video of Mx applauding Steeda.

http://wimp.com/bragging/

Mark




needs more originality.




Needs more you answering people's question of what mods you have done. Or you could quit avoiding the question and just tell people you don't want to tell them .

Mark





i don't want to tell them.






so is that a 100 shot or a 125 shot your running????i personally don't believe you ran a low 14 with just a bolt on 2.5...
Posted By: Steeda. Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/12/05 05:26 PM
Originally posted by Auto-X Fil:
Originally posted by Stealth Steeda:
that was in regards to the comment of how a SHO will never handle like a contour. LOL ill put my SHO against a non-SVT any day of the week in a auto-x. hell even SVT's




Bring it on






LoL whenever you wanna drive this a way!
Posted By: MxRacer Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/12/05 05:38 PM
Originally posted by chrisilversvt:
Originally posted by MxRacerCam:
Originally posted by Y2KSVT:
Originally posted by MxRacerCam:
Originally posted by Y2KSVT:
This must be the video of Mx applauding Steeda.

http://wimp.com/bragging/

Mark




needs more originality.




Needs more you answering people's question of what mods you have done. Or you could quit avoiding the question and just tell people you don't want to tell them .

Mark





i don't want to tell them.






so is that a 100 shot or a 125 shot your running????i personally don't believe you ran a low 14 with just a bolt on 2.5...





neither. no zex, no venom.


believe whatever you like.


i think a rematch should be in the works soon, STD-a. better start hooking up that zex kit!!
Posted By: Barge Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/12/05 05:58 PM
I think you both need to taste some rice....

and I want a cheeto
Posted By: dnewma04_dup1 Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/12/05 05:59 PM
Maybe to save weight, MXracercam unbolted something rather than bolting something on.
Posted By: Steeda. Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/12/05 06:06 PM
Originally posted by WRX Barge:
I think you both need to taste some rice....

and I want a cheeto




ya what did you run the last time you where at the track Tweeceapotomus?
Posted By: The Five-Oh! Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/12/05 06:16 PM
Originally posted by WRX Barge:
I think you both need to taste some rice....






No one is biting me!
Posted By: todras_dup1 Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/12/05 06:35 PM
Into dudes eh?
Posted By: Barge Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/12/05 07:14 PM
Originally posted by SteedaSan:
Originally posted by WRX Barge:
I think you both need to taste some rice....

and I want a cheeto




ya what did you run the last time you where at the track Tweeceapotomus?




I was having some tuning issues last time I went to the track... my boost was all over the place.

That has since been remedied. Although I think i'm going to make a track only boost map... who cares about partial throttle when you're drag racing.

I've started adjusting the timing to compensate/take advantage of my intake manifold mods.
Posted By: Steeda. Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/12/05 07:16 PM
I know RETARDO!!! i was [censored] with you!
Posted By: Barge Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/12/05 07:30 PM
Hey... gotta clarify for all the little people of the world out there.
Posted By: DemonSVT_dup1 Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/12/05 07:46 PM
This thread is full of BS.

Those times look like a Mustang vs an Fody.

They show engines making significant torque compared to HP. They are opposite of what a HP driven FWD car would do.

14.2 at 97 mph with just a 2.25 60' time. BULLSH~T plain and simple.

Probably not even with a 75 shot because the second 1/8 mile is barely 18mph higher trap then the first. That shows a torque driven car with a poor CD and HP ratio when basing it against those times.

The 14.1 at 99mph with a 20mph swing shows they exact same thing.

On my 14.6-14.7 runs in my 2.5L I gained 20mph from half track. Same 60' times and likely better shifting. I'd bet money my engine was making significantly more power then the 2.5L SVT and probably the same if not better then the SHO. (definitely a good 300lbs lighter then the SHO!)

Those look exactly like time slips I have for V8 RWD cars.

You guys can whine all you want but I'll never believe it unless there is certain proof and a timeslip is really proof of nothing. Anyone can post any timeslip or even fabricate one themself. For that matter (well besides my witnesses) you can say I never ran 13.4 and I don't care because I don't buy those times for a second.
Posted By: Y2KSVT Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/12/05 08:03 PM
That goes a lot more into detail than what I was thinking. I was just skeptical of the 97mph on a 14.2 run. Probably should have been closer to 98-99mph with the 2.2 60'.

Mark
Posted By: Steeda. Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/12/05 08:17 PM
Originally posted by DemonSVT:
likely better shifting.




yes shifting at 8500 is tough. your obviously way better
Posted By: warmonger_dup1 Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/12/05 08:27 PM
I'm just waiting to see how this settles out.

I can't speak for the SHO, but anything below a 14.5 on a 2.5L smells of some serious HP. A 2.1 and a 2.2 60' both show some good launching and good traction so that has something to do with it, but the abnormally high trapp speed for a 2.5L ... Well if it was gutted then that might explain a lot. I haven't seen any timeslips of gutted tours so maybe that is it.

war...
Posted By: rkneeshaw Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/12/05 08:50 PM
gutted, shoot, it better have nothing left but a drivers seat and a set of tires. Demon gutted a lot out of his car and only saved like 100lbs after it was stripped.
Posted By: racerbox77 Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/12/05 08:52 PM
I agree with Demon. He called BS then explained why. I like that.

Why lie on the internet to people you will probably never race or even meet in person.
Posted By: rkneeshaw Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/12/05 08:53 PM
it would be gay-ass if this all turned out to be a horrible parody of Stry-ped's thread
Posted By: Steeda. Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/12/05 09:15 PM
it would wouldn't it?

like that would ever happen.. Mx and I do something like that come on!
Posted By: MxRacer Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/12/05 09:42 PM
Originally posted by SteedaSan:
it would wouldn't it?

like that would ever happen.. Mx and I do something like that come on!




no crap! like we would ever do something like that !

Posted By: Auto-X Fil Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/12/05 09:48 PM
Tools.
Posted By: The Five-Oh! Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/12/05 09:54 PM
Originally posted by Auto-X Fil:
Tools.




What kind, Craftsman, Snap On, Husky, STRAP ON?
Posted By: Auto-X Fil Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/12/05 09:56 PM
Craftsman. Not the best, but you gotta love being able to beat on them without worries!
Posted By: amarv12_dup1 Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/12/05 10:30 PM
This thred are stoopid!
Posted By: Barge Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/13/05 01:22 AM
At least it's only 4 pages of stupid instead of 10.
Posted By: todras_dup1 Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/13/05 01:37 AM
Awesome! Owned!
Posted By: warmonger_dup1 Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/13/05 02:24 AM
Originally posted by SteedaSan:
it would wouldn't it?

like that would ever happen.. Mx and I do something like that come on!




Hmm. Yes you might.

It is only my respect for you that has kept me from jumping on the BS wagon. If this thread is a hoax then so be it but I probably won't take your drag racing claims at face value again after this. I'm skeptical but willing to believe that anything is possible.
Posted By: vudusvt_dup1 Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/13/05 03:45 AM
Originally posted by MxRacerCam:







Wow, is it July 24th Already?!

You guys must be in a different time zone...
Posted By: MxRacer Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/13/05 03:50 AM
Originally posted by vudusvt:
Originally posted by MxRacerCam:







Wow, is it July 24th Already?!

You guys must be in a different time zone...




we are.... it's the one that knows how to read a timeslip. the date is 1/4 down on the left. the 24th is an ad for an upcoming event.
Posted By: Steeda. Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/13/05 03:50 AM
thats for a event there having!

check below for the date smarty!
Posted By: chrisilversvt_dup1 Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/13/05 04:18 AM
Originally posted by MxRacerCam:
Originally posted by vudusvt:
Originally posted by MxRacerCam:







Wow, is it July 24th Already?!

You guys must be in a different time zone...




we are.... it's the one that knows how to read a timeslip. the date is 1/4 down on the left. the 24th is an ad for an upcoming event.





ouch i would defenitely say someone got owned...
Posted By: Auto-X Fil Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/13/05 03:04 PM
Yeah, I thought I'd caught some bs for about 2/3 of a second, then I read the rest of the slip.
Posted By: Steeda. Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/13/05 03:05 PM
any other comments?
Posted By: todras_dup1 Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/13/05 03:26 PM
Originally posted by SteedaSan:
any other comments?




Yea why do you tweeze your butt hair?
Posted By: Steeda. Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/13/05 04:38 PM
thats a question not a comment
Posted By: Quick_SVT Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/13/05 04:45 PM
OOhhooohhhh pick me! I have one! er... This thread blows!!!
Posted By: Steeda. Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/13/05 05:29 PM
Originally posted by Quick_SVT:
OOhhooohhhh pick me! I have one! er... This thread blows!!!





And whys that? Truth hurts?
Posted By: Quick_SVT Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/13/05 06:00 PM
No, I would love for this to be true. That's what sucks! I have no idea weather this thread is a joke or not. Hell i'd love to know what mods it takes to run a 14.2, especially if that's bolt-on power. But MX doesn't seem to want to share any info which makes this thread less creditable...
Posted By: Steeda. Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/13/05 06:04 PM
i only posted some of my mod's people don't seem to care to much about that.

Some people like to keep what they have done to there self.

What happened to stazi about a year ago is prime example of why hes not saying his mod's Via the internet!
Posted By: Quick_SVT Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/13/05 06:13 PM
Makes sense i guess, still too much joking throughout the thread... it makes it seem like a mockery of chad's broken scanner, dog ate the digi cam, staples/office depot/kinkos all burned down so i can't post my time slip thread... I'll take it for what it is...
Posted By: MxRacer Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/13/05 06:15 PM
Originally posted by Quick_SVT:
Makes sense i guess, still too much joking throughout the thread... it makes it seem like a mockery of chad's broken scanner, dog ate the digi cam, staples/office depot/kinkos all burned down so i can't post my time slip thread...





it does??? wow... go figure eh?
Posted By: Steeda. Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/13/05 06:16 PM
as stated before MxRacerCam and myself would never make fun of anyone.


and We has slips, if it where a mockery we just wouldn't post them or my SHO would be in the 12's.. with a superchip only
Posted By: Y2KSVT Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/13/05 06:20 PM
This thread will continue to suck. You posted your mods, and the 14.1 is pretty understandable for you have done, as I do know a little bit about the SHO's. On the other hand, the 14.2 run in the CSVT doesn't make a lot of sense. If he doesn't want to post his mods, he needs to expect that people are going to call BS. I think you've both been around these boards long enough to know that people call BS over EVERYTHING.

Mark
Posted By: xchang_dup1 Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/13/05 06:53 PM
Originally posted by chrisilversvt:

ouch i would defenitely say someone got owned...




Like so...



Anyways, I would have to admit, the SHOs are a powerful car. Blew away a Celica GTS on the freeway before he got all psycho on us.

The Celica, not Todd. I think...
Posted By: todras_dup1 Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/13/05 07:13 PM
I hope so it's only 180hp. I had 40hp on him and I was in 3rd. Seeee yaaa later ricer kid.
Posted By: racerbox77 Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/13/05 07:38 PM
Originally posted by SteedaSan:
i only posted some of my mod's people don't seem to care to much about that.

Some people like to keep what they have done to there self.

What happened to stazi about a year ago is prime example of why hes not saying his mod's Via the internet!




what happened to Stazi? Did his car get ripped off? or parts of his car? because people knew where to find it? is that what happened? if so F the world and the A holes in it!
Posted By: 99cougar Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/13/05 07:49 PM
i think it is pretty obvious the CSVT has nitrous . i guess he is ashamed to admit it!
Posted By: Steeda. Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/13/05 07:55 PM
Originally posted by racerbox77:
Originally posted by SteedaSan:
i only posted some of my mod's people don't seem to care to much about that.

Some people like to keep what they have done to there self.

What happened to stazi about a year ago is prime example of why hes not saying his mod's Via the internet!




what happened to Stazi? Did his car get ripped off? or parts of his car? because people knew where to find it? is that what happened? if so F the world and the A holes in it!




they tried to steal a bunch of his crap, got some stuff and cuased alot of damage. This was like a year ago.

Mainly why i don't advertise my stuff to much eiher
Posted By: todras_dup1 Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/13/05 07:58 PM
Originally posted by SteedaSan:


Mainly why i don't advertise my stuff to much eiher




Except no one wants it.
Posted By: 96 M edition Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/13/05 08:05 PM
Originally posted by 99cougar:
i think it is pretty obvious the CSVT has nitrous . i guess he is ashamed to admit it!



..........i have no idea why people would be ashamed to admit it? i'd love to have a 75 shot
Posted By: Steeda. Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/13/05 08:12 PM
Originally posted by Plain ole' todras:
Originally posted by SteedaSan:


Mainly why i don't advertise my stuff to much eiher




Except no one wants it.




LOL whatever Todd!
Posted By: beyondloadedSE_dup1 Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/13/05 09:30 PM
I knew I had this picture somewhere.

Posted By: xchang_dup1 Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/13/05 09:41 PM
Hehe... I had to find this one when I got home... Looks like it hurts...



Sorry about hijack... now back to our regularly scheduled posting...
Posted By: MxRacer Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/14/05 12:00 AM
i'm appalled that you people would dare hijack this thread. this is about serious, heads up, real-life drag racing!
Posted By: beyondloadedSE_dup1 Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/14/05 03:26 AM
Originally posted by MxRacerCam:
i'm appalled that you people would dare hijack this thread. this is about serious, heads up, real-life drag racing!




its so serious, your mods are a secret!
Posted By: KnuKonceptz_dup1 Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/14/05 03:32 AM
Well, having owned the car in question I know its capable of a 2.2x 60', dont remeber my 330' times. It does have MSDS Headers and Short throw shifter. Seein as he posted pics recently and no N2O bottle in the trunk at the time, I think its ruled out and the BS is starting to get deep. That and the fact he's looking for a low 13 second car as a DD to replace the CSVT, I dont think I have ever seen him post numbers before......
Posted By: 99cougar Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/14/05 01:32 PM
Originally posted by tour96se:
Originally posted by 99cougar:
i think it is pretty obvious the CSVT has nitrous . i guess he is ashamed to admit it!



..........i have no idea why people would be ashamed to admit it? i'd love to have a 75 shot




i am definitely not ashamed to admit it...I HAVE A 75 SHOT...and i love it!
Posted By: rkneeshaw Re: SHO Vs CSVT - 07/14/05 01:38 PM
Originally posted by KnuKonceptz:
Well, having owned the car in question I know its capable of a 2.2x 60', dont remeber my 330' times. It does have MSDS Headers and Short throw shifter. Seein as he posted pics recently and no N2O bottle in the trunk at the time, I think its ruled out and the BS is starting to get deep. That and the fact he's looking for a low 13 second car as a DD to replace the CSVT, I dont think I have ever seen him post numbers before......




And the plot thickens....
Posted By: MxRacer Re: SHO Vs CSVT (new times!!!) - 07/14/05 11:03 PM
i must have forgotten about this run!!








and they said a tour would never make it into the 12's!!!

sheesh!!
Posted By: ZetecTour Re: SHO Vs CSVT (new times!!!) - 07/14/05 11:23 PM
haha....july 24 2005....and today is july 14
Posted By: Auto-X Fil Re: SHO Vs CSVT (new times!!!) - 07/14/05 11:26 PM
Originally posted by ZetecChris:
haha....july 24 2005....and today is july 14




Consider yourself owned.

Posted By: ZetecTour Re: SHO Vs CSVT (new times!!!) - 07/14/05 11:32 PM
Originally posted by Auto-X Fil:
Consider yourself owned.




its about time i owned someone besides X, and Chad.
Posted By: Ray_dup1 Re: SHO Vs CSVT (new times!!!) - 07/14/05 11:32 PM
Isn't that two?


Maybe we should post that picture once a month and see who falls in?

Its like sitting on the porch and watching a bug zapper.

Edit: That's a double owned... he certainly didn't read the thread, either.. proof is above..


Ray
Posted By: MxRacer Re: SHO Vs CSVT (new times!!!) - 07/14/05 11:34 PM
Originally posted by ZetecChris:
haha....july 24 2005....and today is july 14





Originally posted by MxRacerCam:
Originally posted by vudusvt:

Wow, is it July 24th Already?!

You guys must be in a different time zone...




we are.... it's the one that knows how to read a timeslip. the date is 1/4 down on the left. the 24th is an ad for an upcoming event.




i believe this qualifies as:

Posted By: Bronco_WRX OMGWTFBBQ - 07/15/05 03:41 AM
I could feel my brain cells rotting away reading through this entire thread, but I must say it made me crack up a few times There's nothing like a good OWN3D pic
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