Contour Enthusiasts Group Archives
Posted By: MLuko 0-60 = bad! - 09/29/04 11:44 PM
10.05 0-60 with intake removed res., muffler, and plugs.. on a 4 cyl. atx
is that good?
Posted By: Kremithefrog Re: 0-60 = bad! - 09/29/04 11:53 PM
Your stop watch or whatever is not accurate, try between 11-12 seconds.
Posted By: incubusjunkie614 Re: 0-60 = bad! - 09/30/04 12:19 AM
ouch!
Posted By: MLuko Re: 0-60 = bad! - 09/30/04 12:29 AM
dang... makes me want to cry...
im lookin at a 1998 contour se sport with the v6... what would that do 0-60 stock?
Posted By: Kremithefrog Re: 0-60 = bad! - 09/30/04 12:31 AM
A bit better. 0-60 times are not the contour's forte.
Posted By: Roz 1999 SVT-C Re: 0-60 = bad! - 09/30/04 12:36 AM
If 0-60 times are what your loking for then this is the wrong car for you....the contour really shines on a road course than the stright line.


Lupe
Posted By: MLuko Re: 0-60 = bad! - 09/30/04 12:42 AM
i love my contours road handeling but.. at my school, no one does auto-crossing they all race in straight lines... i have the best handeling cars out of all my friends but its the slowest...

what about a csvt or a v6 5 speed or even a zetec 5 speed? how do thoes do 0-60?
Posted By: Kremithefrog Re: 0-60 = bad! - 09/30/04 12:44 AM
They're all better, but still 0-60 and drag races are not the contour's thing. Highway race would be ok. Just forget about racing with the kiddies, do your own thing. If your thing is racing with the kiddies, get a different car.
Posted By: MLuko Re: 0-60 = bad! - 09/30/04 12:55 AM
Originally posted by Kremithefrog:
They're all better, but still 0-60 and drag races are not the contour's thing. Highway race would be ok. Just forget about racing with the kiddies, do your own thing. If your thing is racing with the kiddies, get a different car.




i only highway raced once with my car once... i went way too fast... well.. my other choice is a 99 grand am se 4 door 3.4l v6 with 105k on it...
Posted By: Kremithefrog Re: 0-60 = bad! - 09/30/04 12:58 AM
Your choices suck. And trust me, you didn't go way too fast with an atx zetec, especially without a chip.
Posted By: MLuko Re: 0-60 = bad! - 09/30/04 01:03 AM
well goin 105 with out of balance tires yeah... what car would you reccomend for under 4 grand *wholesale*
Posted By: Loco4G63 Re: 0-60 = bad! - 09/30/04 01:20 AM
Originally posted by 99_SE:
well goin 105 with out of balance tires yeah... what car would you reccomend for under 4 grand *wholesale*


1st gen Eclipse or Talon AWD turbo.
Posted By: MLuko Re: 0-60 = bad! - 09/30/04 01:33 AM
Originally posted by LoCoZs/c:
Originally posted by 99_SE:
well goin 105 with out of balance tires yeah... what car would you reccomend for under 4 grand *wholesale*


1st gen Eclipse or Talon AWD turbo.




yeah, i was thinking of one of thoes but a lot of people have them. one reason i got the contour was because nobody had them. maybe a mazda 626 or something.. they go for cheap
Posted By: Mental Case Re: 0-60 = bad! - 09/30/04 01:43 AM
they go for cheap but you'll get what you pay for.
Posted By: MLuko Re: 0-60 = bad! - 09/30/04 01:50 AM
yeah....idk yet, i'll think about it over night... i really want to stick with the contour but ill decide tonight..
Posted By: Loco4G63 Re: 0-60 = bad! - 09/30/04 01:51 AM
I got my car sub 9s for 0-60.
Posted By: MLuko Re: 0-60 = bad! - 09/30/04 01:55 AM
my friend claims he got 8.9 0-60 in his 94 accord lx atx with intake and exhaust and a 15.9 in the 1/4 mile.... is he off?
Posted By: JB1 Re: 0-60 = bad! - 09/30/04 03:43 AM
imo yes..from the current motor trend:
04 durango limited- 8.0 (0/60) & 15.8 (1/4)
04 tahoe lt- 8.8 (0/60) & 16.4 (1/4)
your friends 94 accord- 8.9 (0/60) & 15.9 (1/4)

that would be one odd powerband
Posted By: Kremithefrog Re: 0-60 = bad! - 09/30/04 04:13 AM
Originally posted by 99_SE:
well goin 105 with out of balance tires yeah... what car would you reccomend for under 4 grand *wholesale*



Fox body
Posted By: DemonSVT_dup1 Re: 0-60 = bad! - 09/30/04 04:20 AM
Originally posted by LoCoZs/c:
I got my car sub 9s for 0-60.



I've clicked off a few sub 5.5's.

I can get to 80 in under 9 seconds.
Posted By: MLuko Re: 0-60 = bad! - 09/30/04 11:38 AM
yep.. im lookin at a fox body too.. one with the 5.0
Posted By: Y2KSVT Re: 0-60 = bad! - 09/30/04 01:50 PM
Originally posted by DemonSVT:
Originally posted by LoCoZs/c:
I got my car sub 9s for 0-60.



I've clicked off a few sub 5.5's.

I can get to 80 in under 9 seconds.




What are you using for your 0-60 times? Is it safe to assume you are using a g-tech, or do you have other means?

Mark
Posted By: RTStabler51_dup1 Re: 0-60 = bad! - 09/30/04 01:57 PM
He uses 1-Mississippi 2-Mississippi like the car magazines do. DUH!!

Originally posted by Y2KSVT:
Originally posted by DemonSVT:
Originally posted by LoCoZs/c:
I got my car sub 9s for 0-60.



I've clicked off a few sub 5.5's.

I can get to 80 in under 9 seconds.




What are you using for your 0-60 times? Is it safe to assume you are using a g-tech, or do you have other means?

Mark


Posted By: rkneeshaw Re: 0-60 = bad! - 09/30/04 02:07 PM
You mean you reached 60mph in that thing?
Posted By: Mad_Medeiros Re: 0-60 = bad! - 09/30/04 03:01 PM
get a mazda mx-3 gs, take out the crappy 1.8 v6, drop in a klze for 1400 bucks.... bamn your in the low 14's.

I have an mx-3 with a KLDE (KL03) mazda mx-6 engine and I should be in the mid to high 14's once I fix my axles, and thats all under 4 GRAND CANADIAN!
Posted By: Kremithefrog Re: 0-60 = bad! - 09/30/04 03:16 PM
I met a guy that bought a 240sx and swapped in a rb20det for around $3k. The rb20 only puts down about 230whp, but it's a lot cheaper than a rb25 or rb26. Or you could just turbo the stock KA engine. Or go with the fox body. If speed is what you want, you want RWD and a big engine/light body.
Posted By: DemonSVT_dup1 Re: 0-60 = bad! - 09/30/04 03:41 PM
Originally posted by Y2KSVT:
What are you using for your 0-60 times? Is it safe to assume you are using a g-tech, or do you have other means?




Using the 2-way averaging method with the G-tech guesstimator.

The sub 9 second 0-80mph is based on my 1/8 mile time of 9.0x at ~82mph.

0-100mph is about 13 flat.
Sub 13's with the G-tech and 0-102mph in 13.9x using the much slower 1/4 averaging method for trap speed. (really like 0-105 in 14)

Yes that puts the acceleration into some elite company. Especially considering it's a lowly NA family 4 door.
Posted By: Y2KSVT Re: 0-60 = bad! - 09/30/04 04:17 PM
Demon,
I saw an argument you had on fastcougar.com. You stated that you would probably be 1/2 second faster on a better track. Ive heard some bad things about KCIR. Where would you be making up that 1/2 second? That'd be pretty wicked to see a 13.4 second N/A pass. Your 2.18 60' times are nothing to snarl at, although you know as well as I do that you could probably get into the 2.0X range, even with street tires. Is KCIR's track so slick that you're spinning like mad in 2nd? I would hope you aren't still spinning into 3rd, as even the turbo guys usually can get some traction by that time. I was just curious as to what the big difference is between KCIR and an above average track.

Mark
Posted By: DemonSVT_dup1 Re: 0-60 = bad! - 09/30/04 06:15 PM
You need to remember KCIR is at least 1000' and it's always HUMID since it's right next to the river.

Yes the 2.18 was walking it out in 1st and quick shifting to 2nd with some spin in 2nd. No real application of any power until in 2nd gear.
When I tried to give it any power it spun through 1st and 2nd and gave me 2.2's or 2.3's.

If this platform could ever hook there is easily sub 2's in the car.

Also remember that 2.18 is on 25.1-25.3" tires. It's much easier to get low 60' times with smaller tires. (though my DR's are 225/50 and ~25")

I need to pick a nice day this fall and try going to Heartland Park. It's only at 600' and NOT by a river.


As for comparisons. Most people run 1/2 second & a few mph slower here.

For instance - I have yet to see an SRT-4 in the 13's though recently one person with Stage 1+ package (03 IIRC) posted he hit 13.99 @ 99mph.

Most are low to mid 14's. Even with a few bolts ons. For instance a guy on the fast4door site is all pumped about maybe hitting low 14's this fall with his 04 SRT-4 and he has intake, BOV, etc.

There is another guy with a GTP that went 13.88 @ 98 and he has a TON of bolt ons including a 2 step smaller pulley.


Why do you think I went nutz when I smacked a high 13 at nearly 102mph!!! Especially considering the launch consisted of push starting it. Damn touring cars...
Posted By: RTStabler51_dup1 Re: 0-60 = bad! - 09/30/04 06:19 PM
You can say that about anything :-P

Originally posted by DemonSVT:


If this platform could ever hook there is easily sub 2's in the car.




Posted By: DemonSVT_dup1 Re: 0-60 = bad! - 10/01/04 04:01 AM
Originally posted by RTStabler51:
You can say that about anything :-P

Originally posted by DemonSVT:


If this platform could ever hook there is easily sub 2's in the car.








I'm talking even just a little traction though...


Also let me see a Yugo hit sub 2's smarty pants.
You need at least moderately high sustainable torque to weight so that eliminates a lot of vehicles.
Posted By: RTStabler51_dup1 Re: 0-60 = bad! - 10/01/04 11:53 AM
How bout a Geo Metro?

:-) There is one that runs 9's I'm sure its getting sub 2.0 60fts :-P

Originally posted by DemonSVT:
Originally posted by RTStabler51:
You can say that about anything :-P

Originally posted by DemonSVT:


If this platform could ever hook there is easily sub 2's in the car.








I'm talking even just a little traction though...


Also let me see a Yugo hit sub 2's smarty pants.
You need at least moderately high sustainable torque to weight so that eliminates a lot of vehicles.


Posted By: SE SPORT 21 Re: 0-60 = bad! - 10/02/04 05:12 AM
demon is your svt the fastest on this board because ur numbers r better than anyone's how do you get such great pwr?
Posted By: Kremithefrog Re: 0-60 = bad! - 10/02/04 07:38 AM
Originally posted by contour19:
demon is your svt the fastest on this board because ur numbers r better than anyone's how do you get such great pwr?



Good driving.
Posted By: DemonSVT_dup1 Re: 0-60 = bad! - 10/03/04 04:20 AM
Originally posted by Kremithefrog:
Originally posted by contour19:
demon is your svt the fastest on this board because ur numbers r better than anyone's how do you get such great pwr?



Good driving.



Better engine building...

At least insane attention to the little details. I can openly claim that.
Posted By: Russell-3L Re: 0-60 = bad! - 10/03/04 04:26 AM
for his 1/4 mile times he was towed down the track by a lightning
Posted By: SE SPORT 21 Re: 0-60 = bad! - 10/03/04 06:40 AM
so your car can beat a srt-4 and a wrx or are about close in a race your numbers kinda match there performance times stock
Posted By: DemonSVT_dup1 Re: 0-60 = bad! - 10/04/04 03:02 AM
Originally posted by Russell-3L:
for his 1/4 mile times he was towed down the track by a lightning



Lightnings trap much slower.

It better have been a very highly modifed Lightning.
Posted By: DemonSVT_dup1 Bench racing is worthless... - 10/04/04 03:07 AM
Originally posted by contour19:
so your car can beat a srt-4 and a wrx or are about close in a race your numbers kinda match there performance times stock



I can wax a stock WRX from a stop (given it's not a 60' race) and absolutely Kill it from a roll.

I'm a bit faster then a Stage 1+ SRT-4. They do scoot!


I'm comparing my times verses times of both cars at the same track as me. Neither get close to 13's or triple digit trap speed. (hell the WRX is low 90's and I beat that with the 2.5L!)
Posted By: SE SPORT 21 Re: 0-60 = bad! - 10/04/04 04:28 AM
nice i love the contour i wish i could just get it to be as fast as a 0-60 time of 7 sec i wish i could mod it to have good low end pick up


but i don't know where i should put my money to start

i have a jet chip but i don't think it does anything for my car but waste my money
Posted By: Kremithefrog Re: Bench racing is worthless... - 10/04/04 05:24 AM
Originally posted by DemonSVT:
Originally posted by contour19:

I'm comparing my times verses times of both cars at the same track as me. Neither get close to 13's or triple digit trap speed. (hell the WRX is low 90's and I beat that with the 2.5L!)



The srt4 needs a good driver.
Posted By: DemonSVT_dup1 Re: Bench racing is worthless... - 10/04/04 07:51 PM
Originally posted by Kremithefrog:
Originally posted by DemonSVT:
I'm comparing my times verses times of both cars at the same track as me. Neither get close to 13's or triple digit trap speed. (hell the WRX is low 90's and I beat that with the 2.5L!)



The srt4 needs a good driver.



Ask Brad about the track here.

There wasn't an SRT-4 (that I heard of) in the 13's until a few weeks ago. It went 13.99 at 99 and is an 03 with Stage 1+

Another guy with an 04 and a few mods (intake, BOV, VBC) is hoping he can hit low 14's.

Like I said I'm estatic about my times here. Especially the trap speeds!

That's also why I compare my results against others at the same track. Comparing them verses anything else just doesn't wash. I suppose I could use the "corrected" times (for conditions & altitude) and say I ran 13.6's and 103+ but I don't...
Posted By: RTStabler51_dup1 Re: Bench racing is worthless... - 10/04/04 07:58 PM
where do you find the formula for that?
Originally posted by DemonSVT:
I suppose I could use the "corrected" times (for conditions & altitude) and say I ran 13.6's and 103+ but I don't...


Posted By: DemonSVT_dup1 Re: Bench racing is worthless... - 10/04/04 10:25 PM
Originally posted by RTStabler51:
where do you find the formula for that?
Originally posted by DemonSVT:
I suppose I could use the "corrected" times (for conditions & altitude) and say I ran 13.6's and 103+ but I don't...






I use the one on smokemup.com

http://www.smokemup.com/auto_math/index.php
Posted By: Kremithefrog Re: Bench racing is worthless... - 10/04/04 10:34 PM
Could you get the 60' times from those srt4s and also post ur's if u get their's?
Posted By: Loco4G63 Re: Bench racing is worthless... - 10/04/04 10:36 PM
Originally posted by DemonSVT:
Originally posted by Kremithefrog:
Originally posted by DemonSVT:
I'm comparing my times verses times of both cars at the same track as me. Neither get close to 13's or triple digit trap speed. (hell the WRX is low 90's and I beat that with the 2.5L!)



The srt4 needs a good driver.



Ask Brad about the track here.

There wasn't an SRT-4 (that I heard of) in the 13's until a few weeks ago. It went 13.99 at 99 and is an 03 with Stage 1+

Another guy with an 04 and a few mods (intake, BOV, VBC) is hoping he can hit low 14's.

Like I said I'm estatic about my times here. Especially the trap speeds!

That's also why I compare my results against others at the same track. Comparing them verses anything else just doesn't wash. I suppose I could use the "corrected" times (for conditions & altitude) and say I ran 13.6's and 103+ but I don't...


Every one I have seen at the track has ran mid to low 13s!
Posted By: Kremithefrog Re: Bench racing is worthless... - 10/04/04 10:44 PM
Originally posted by LoCoZs/c:
Every one I have seen at the track has ran mid to low 13s!



Hector, either all the srt4s u see are pretty well modded or have great drivers or a combo of both. I've seen a 300whp+ srt4 only be able to pull a 13.5 because he was on stock tires. Most won't break outta 14s stock with the typical srt4 driver. Though stock, they're definitely capabable of high 13s on stock tires if driven rite.
Posted By: DemonSVT_dup1 Re: Bench racing is worthless... - 10/05/04 07:06 AM
Originally posted by Kremithefrog:
Could you get the 60' times from those srt4s and also post ur's if u get their's?



I'll try.

You guys are so stuck up on bench racing though.

Comparing cars at the same track (or dyno) is what matters.

For instance comparing my times here to tracks such as Houston or Englishtown would be ridiculous. (I picked 2 very good tracks )

Personally I'd love to run at either one. Go on a good day at get air density WELL below seal level!

Even a bad day would likely be sea level.


I've raced here on days the air density was above 4000 feet.


~~~just dug up an old slip~~~

The worst was a Sunday afternoon (July 02) with temps in the mid 90's and humidity at 80%. BP was deep into in the 28's. (Quick calculation puts air density at least 4500 feet )

BTW I ran 15.22 @ 92 (2.2x 60') with a nicely modified 2.5L vs an 01 Mustang GT that ran 14.96 @ 93
Posted By: Kremithefrog Re: Bench racing is worthless... - 10/05/04 07:12 AM
That's why I wanna see 60' times of those srt4s that run out there. I know it mite be hard to get them, I was just curious.
I just like to compare cars and stuff to better understand all cars and what goes down with them.
Posted By: ATL-SVT_dup1 Re: Bench racing is worthless... - 10/06/04 05:35 PM
Originally posted by DemonSVT:
Originally posted by Kremithefrog:
Originally posted by DemonSVT:
I'm comparing my times verses times of both cars at the same track as me. Neither get close to 13's or triple digit trap speed. (hell the WRX is low 90's and I beat that with the 2.5L!)



The srt4 needs a good driver.



Ask Brad about the track here.

There wasn't an SRT-4 (that I heard of) in the 13's until a few weeks ago. It went 13.99 at 99 and is an 03 with Stage 1+

Another guy with an 04 and a few mods (intake, BOV, VBC) is hoping he can hit low 14's.

Like I said I'm estatic about my times here. Especially the trap speeds!

That's also why I compare my results against others at the same track. Comparing them verses anything else just doesn't wash. I suppose I could use the "corrected" times (for conditions & altitude) and say I ran 13.6's and 103+ but I don't...








some things never change.... so when are you going to move onto a real car? Or is king of the chumps your 'calling' in life?

All the SRT needs is a capable driver and STREET tires to beat your slug.
Posted By: rkneeshaw Re: Bench racing is worthless... - 10/06/04 05:41 PM
Originally posted by ATL-SVT:
king of the chumps




How 'bout you bring your mommy's-teet sucking ass over here and I'll show you who's a chump?
Posted By: ATL-SVT_dup1 Re: Bench racing is worthless... - 10/06/04 05:45 PM
Originally posted by rkneeshaw3.0:
Originally posted by ATL-SVT:
king of the chumps




How 'bout you bring your mommy's-teet sucking ass over here and I'll show you who's a chump?





bwahahahahha! Classic idiot comeback, lmao
Posted By: rkneeshaw Re: Bench racing is worthless... - 10/06/04 05:51 PM
Originally posted by ATL-SVT:
Originally posted by rkneeshaw3.0:
Originally posted by ATL-SVT:
king of the chumps




How 'bout you bring your mommy's-teet sucking ass over here and I'll show you who's a chump?





bwahahahahha! Classic idiot comeback, lmao




lol, so are you serious? You really meant to insult everyone on this board by that first remark? I didn't really think you were a prick at first, assumed it was a joke...
Posted By: ATL-SVT_dup1 Re: Bench racing is worthless... - 10/06/04 05:52 PM
Originally posted by rkneeshaw3.0:
Originally posted by ATL-SVT:
Originally posted by rkneeshaw3.0:
Originally posted by ATL-SVT:
king of the chumps




How 'bout you bring your mommy's-teet sucking ass over here and I'll show you who's a chump?





bwahahahahha! Classic idiot comeback, lmao




lol, so are you serious? You really meant to insult everyone on this board by that first remark? I didn't really think you were a prick at first, assumed it was a joke...




not really serious so much as bored.... now come on and feed me. I drive a neon that slaughters contours, discuss.
Posted By: DemonSVT_dup1 ATL is worthless... - 10/06/04 05:57 PM
Originally posted by ATL-SVT:


some things never change.... so when are you going to move onto a real car? Or is king of the chumps your 'calling' in life?

All the SRT needs is a capable driver and STREET tires to beat your slug.



Go troll somewhere else worthless boy.

As usual your comments are nothing but drivel and near sighted ignorant banter.


Apparently the SRT-4 needs more then that. That's why you can't compare runs from different tracks our are your really that clueless that you can't fathom that idea.

The day I ran there were multiple SRT-4's there and not one got close to the 13's or triple digit traps. The 13's part could possibly be driver related but several of the drivers were quite good.
However the trap speed is most definitely not drive related!


Man you are an ignorant fool.


The best thing. My "slug" weighs quite a bit more then an SRT-4. Guess a stronger power curve beats peak power but then again that's nothing new.
Posted By: MapOfTaziFoSho Re: ATL is worthless... - 10/06/04 06:01 PM
I thought everyone told you to go away last year?

Why did you come back? People make fun of you on Neon.org...
Posted By: ATL-SVT_dup1 Re: ATL is worthless... - 10/06/04 06:05 PM
Originally posted by DemonSVT:
Originally posted by ATL-SVT:


some things never change.... so when are you going to move onto a real car? Or is king of the chumps your 'calling' in life?

All the SRT needs is a capable driver and STREET tires to beat your slug.



Go troll somewhere else worthless boy.

As usual your comments are nothing but drivel and near sighted ignorant banter.


Apparently the SRT-4 needs more then that. That's why you can't compare runs from different tracks our are your really that clueless that you can't fathom that idea.

The day I ran there were multiple SRT-4's there and not one got close to the 13's or triple digit traps. The 13's part could possibly be driver related but several of the drivers were quite good.
However the trap speed is most definitely not drive related!


Man you are an ignorant fool.


The best thing. My "slug" weighs quite a bit more then an SRT-4. Guess a stronger power curve beats peak power but then again that's nothing new.




There ya go SemenSVT! Do it again, hurry before I have to leave and go back to the land of real cars, lol

Your car weighs more- agreed, has a much weaker power band (where you came up with that crap is beyond me), has the weekest transaxle ever concieved (let alone built).... and if you wanna be stupid lets talk humidity and elevation for NA cars, not FI'd beastly NEONS that have PCMS which will raise or lower boost on the fly due to atmospheric conditions/ outside temp/ air density- what have you....

just admit man, I've said it before and I'll say it again.... you are beating a dead horse.


Posted By: Steeda. Re: Bench racing is worthless... - 10/06/04 06:05 PM
Originally posted by ATL-SVT:
Originally posted by rkneeshaw3.0:
Originally posted by ATL-SVT:
Originally posted by rkneeshaw3.0:
Originally posted by ATL-SVT:
king of the chumps




How 'bout you bring your mommy's-teet sucking ass over here and I'll show you who's a chump?





bwahahahahha! Classic idiot comeback, lmao




lol, so are you serious? You really meant to insult everyone on this board by that first remark? I didn't really think you were a prick at first, assumed it was a joke...




not really serious so much as bored.... now come on and feed me. I drive a neon that slaughters contours, discuss.






I got a 2.3L wanna race? I didn't think soo Take your FWD pos somewhere else!
Posted By: ATL-SVT_dup1 Re: ATL is worthless... - 10/06/04 06:06 PM
Originally posted by MapOfTaziFoSho:
I thought everyone told you to go away last year?

Why did you come back? People make fun of you on Neon.org...




gawd another one! lol you guys just can't get another car or what?

its srtforums.com by the way
Posted By: ATL-SVT_dup1 Re: Bench racing is worthless... - 10/06/04 06:07 PM
Originally posted by SteedaSan:


I got a 2.3L wanna race? I didn't think soo Take your FWD pos somewhere else!





man?! Why you gotta bag on contours like that?
Posted By: Steeda. Re: ATL is worthless... - 10/06/04 06:08 PM
Who would want to drive a Neon for one! Yippie!

my 2.3L cost a grand as stated before wanna race?

Posted By: Y2KSVT Re: Bench racing is worthless... - 10/06/04 06:09 PM
Originally posted by ATL-SVT:
some things never change.... so when are you going to move onto a real car? Or is king of the chumps your 'calling' in life?

All the SRT needs is a capable driver and STREET tires to beat your slug.




Modded 03 SRT-4
13.5 @ 105 MPH

So you have a modded SRT-4 and all you can get out of it is a 13.5? And 105 isn't really much to brag about either. Then you want to downplay Demon when his heavier, N/A car is right up there with yours?

Old Ride: ..:1998 T-Red CSVT:..

And incase you forgot, you used to own a CSVT. You bought a neon, so in my eyes you didn't really step up, you just crossed over to the other side of the sexuality plate. Hell you still have your name as ATL-"SVT". Looks to me the SRT4 guys can't stand you either so you tried coming back to where you were once liked. Congrats, now nobody likes you.

Mark
Posted By: Steeda. Re: Bench racing is worthless... - 10/06/04 06:09 PM
Originally posted by ATL-SVT:
Originally posted by SteedaSan:


I got a 2.3L wanna race? I didn't think soo Take your FWD pos somewhere else!





man?! Why you gotta bag on contours like that?




Not contours Just NEON POS's..
Posted By: MapOfTaziFoSho Re: ATL is worthless... - 10/06/04 06:18 PM
Posted By: Steeda. Re: ATL is worthless... - 10/06/04 06:36 PM
Originally posted by MapOfTaziFoSho:



Posted By: todras_dup1 Re: ATL is worthless... - 10/06/04 06:40 PM
Posted By: Y2KSVT Re: ATL is worthless... - 10/06/04 06:43 PM
Originally posted by todras:





Awww, Todd, that's the nicest thing anyone's ever said to me. You've got me blushing here

Mark
Posted By: ATL-SVT_dup1 Re: Bench racing is worthless... - 10/06/04 06:55 PM
Originally posted by Y2KSVT:
Originally posted by ATL-SVT:
some things never change.... so when are you going to move onto a real car? Or is king of the chumps your 'calling' in life?

All the SRT needs is a capable driver and STREET tires to beat your slug.




Modded 03 SRT-4
13.5 @ 105 MPH

So you have a modded SRT-4 and all you can get out of it is a 13.5? And 105 isn't really much to brag about either. Then you want to downplay Demon when his heavier, N/A car is right up there with yours?

Old Ride: ..:1998 T-Red CSVT:..

And incase you forgot, you used to own a CSVT. You bought a neon, so in my eyes you didn't really step up, you just crossed over to the other side of the sexuality plate. Hell you still have your name as ATL-"SVT". Looks to me the SRT4 guys can't stand you either so you tried coming back to where you were once liked. Congrats, now nobody likes you.

Mark




Gimme a set of slicks and I'll show you a 12 second slip on a stock turbo with no nitrous, my 60 fts are consistent 2.0's and 2.1's on street tires and my highest trap to date is 106 again, on street tires... personally I only care what my car runs in street trim, the same trim it drives me to work in every day. Mods are Stage1, exhaust, CAI and bigger IC....

edit: now keep the bash coming
Posted By: Steeda. Re: Bench racing is worthless... - 10/06/04 07:00 PM
but still no comment on my 2.3L.

I don't beileve you will be in the 12's with sticks. But if you wanna fluff your peter up to make it look bigger have at it.
Posted By: BStoneMega Re: Bench racing is worthless... - 10/06/04 07:01 PM
I wish I had a SRT-4 so I could have my friends drive it and video tape the tail lights of either one of my cars.
Posted By: ATL-SVT_dup1 Re: Bench racing is worthless... - 10/06/04 07:04 PM
Originally posted by SteedaSan:
but still no comment on my 2.3L.

I don't beileve you will be in the 12's with sticks. But if you wanna fluff your peter up to make it look bigger have at it.




what is it? the old 4 cyl mustang? And I dont' care if you believe me, lets move on to your 2.3L
Posted By: Steeda. Re: Bench racing is worthless... - 10/06/04 07:05 PM
Nope but im sure it Pretty much owns you!
Posted By: rkneeshaw Re: Bench racing is worthless... - 10/06/04 07:26 PM
So you're talking all big with your FI FWD car and comparing it to demons' heavy N/A FWD (which has faster times than your comrades, both on street tires)? By all rights, you're car *should* kick demons' cars ass if it's using FI. But it doesn't. Its pretty close to even. Compare apples to apples and demon or any SVT kicks any neons ass all day long.

stfu or gtfo. Your argument is retarded. You're just an attention whore.
Posted By: MapOfTaziFoSho Re: Bench racing is worthless... - 10/06/04 07:29 PM
Ryan it's also FWD not AWD hurry up and change that!
Posted By: ATL-SVT_dup1 Re: Bench racing is worthless... - 10/06/04 07:30 PM
Originally posted by rkneeshaw3.0:
So you're talking all big with your FI AWD car and comparing it to demons' heavy N/A FWD (which has faster times than your comrades, both on street tires)? By all rights, you're car *should* kick demons' cars ass if it's using FI and has the advantage of AWD. But it doesn't. Its pretty close to even. Compare apples to apples and demon or any SVT kicks any neons ass all day long.

stfu or gtfo. Your argument is retarded. You're just an attention whore.




Actually I think your argument is pretty retarded. How are you gonna compare 4 cyl NA to 6 cyl NA? I think 4cyl FI to 6cyl NA or FI in some of these SVT's cases, is a good comparison. Besides that- there are plenty of NA 12 second neons...
Posted By: rkneeshaw Re: Bench racing is worthless... - 10/06/04 07:31 PM
Put a V6 in it from a stratus or something, I dont' care. Still won't be competitive. Heck, take the stratus even. The thing sucks.
Posted By: MapOfTaziFoSho Re: Bench racing is worthless... - 10/06/04 07:32 PM
Regardless, what this boils down to is you coming into our camp and bashing our cars in an attempt to boost your self esteem...which is really pathetic.
Posted By: RTStabler51_dup1 Re: Bench racing is worthless... - 10/06/04 07:32 PM
You can polish a turd, but its still a turd.
Posted By: rkneeshaw Re: Bench racing is worthless... - 10/06/04 07:34 PM
Originally posted by RTStabler51:
You can polish a turd, but its still a turd.




Or you can put a turbo on one, and watch it burn around the toilet bowl a few times too
Posted By: ATL-SVT_dup1 Re: Bench racing is worthless... - 10/06/04 07:34 PM
Originally posted by RTStabler51:
You can polish a turd, but its still a turd.




take a look in the mirror ace.

Posted By: RTStabler51_dup1 Re: Bench racing is worthless... - 10/06/04 07:36 PM
Doesn't dispute the fact that you own a turd.
Originally posted by ATL-SVT:
Originally posted by RTStabler51:
You can polish a turd, but its still a turd.




take a look in the mirror ace.




Posted By: ATL-SVT_dup1 Re: Bench racing is worthless... - 10/06/04 07:36 PM
Originally posted by MapOfTaziFoSho:
Regardless, what this boils down to is you coming into our camp and bashing our cars in an attempt to boost your self esteem...which is really pathetic.




you seriously think this? I could go out right now and pick the first 17 civics (or contours whichever you prefer) and completely desimate every single one of them and I won't feel any "cooler" about myself. What I'm doing here is purely for my own amusement. Call it bored at work if you will....
Posted By: ATL-SVT_dup1 Re: Bench racing is worthless... - 10/06/04 07:37 PM
Originally posted by RTStabler51:
Doesn't dispute the fact that you own a turd.
Originally posted by ATL-SVT:
Originally posted by RTStabler51:
You can polish a turd, but its still a turd.




take a look in the mirror ace.









I can't argue your opinion with you no, lmao- there are actually 11 second ALL MOTOR neons.. how does that make you guys that have spent 10 grand trying to be fast feel and still run 13's? lol
Posted By: MapOfTaziFoSho Re: Bench racing is worthless... - 10/06/04 07:37 PM
Well you are still coming off like a 17 y o with a chip on his shoulder...
Posted By: RTStabler51_dup1 Re: Bench racing is worthless... - 10/06/04 07:38 PM
Now why would you go pick on an inferior automobile? For Pete's sake you have a NEON SRT4. There are Diablo's, Ferrari's, and Porsches awaiting to bow to the might NEON.

Originally posted by ATL-SVT:


you seriously think this? I could go out right now and pick the first 17 civics (or contours whichever you prefer) and completely desimate every single one of them and I won't feel any "cooler" about myself. What I'm doing here is purely for my own amusement. Call it bored at work if you will....


Posted By: RTStabler51_dup1 Re: Bench racing is worthless... - 10/06/04 07:38 PM
wow.

Really?
Thats great.
Originally posted by ATL-SVT:










I can't argue your opinion with you no, lmao- there are actually 11 second ALL MOTOR neons.. how does that make you guys that have spent 10 grand trying to be fast feel and still run 13's? lol


Posted By: ATL-SVT_dup1 Re: Bench racing is worthless... - 10/06/04 07:39 PM
Originally posted by MapOfTaziFoSho:
Well you are still coming off like a 17 y o with a chip on his shoulder...




Posted By: ATL-SVT_dup1 Re: Bench racing is worthless... - 10/06/04 07:39 PM
Originally posted by RTStabler51:
Now why would you go pick on an inferior automobile? For Pete's sake you have a NEON SRT4. There are Diablo's, Ferrari's, and Porsches awaiting to bow to the might NEON.

Originally posted by ATL-SVT:


you seriously think this? I could go out right now and pick the first 17 civics (or contours whichever you prefer) and completely desimate every single one of them and I won't feel any "cooler" about myself. What I'm doing here is purely for my own amusement. Call it bored at work if you will....







that was my point, but thanks for explaining it un such detail
Posted By: RTStabler51_dup1 Re: Bench racing is worthless... - 10/06/04 07:42 PM
glad I could help. NEONS RULE!
Originally posted by ATL-SVT:
Originally posted by RTStabler51:
Now why would you go pick on an inferior automobile? For Pete's sake you have a NEON SRT4. There are Diablo's, Ferrari's, and Porsches awaiting to bow to the might NEON.

Originally posted by ATL-SVT:


you seriously think this? I could go out right now and pick the first 17 civics (or contours whichever you prefer) and completely desimate every single one of them and I won't feel any "cooler" about myself. What I'm doing here is purely for my own amusement. Call it bored at work if you will....







that was my point, but thanks for explaining it un such detail


Posted By: rkneeshaw Re: Bench racing is worthless... - 10/06/04 07:44 PM
I wish I had a neon.
Posted By: ATL-SVT_dup1 Re: Bench racing is worthless... - 10/06/04 07:45 PM
now you guys are comin around.
Posted By: RTStabler51_dup1 Re: Bench racing is worthless... - 10/06/04 07:47 PM
get down with your badself.
Originally posted by ATL-SVT:
now you guys are comin around.


Posted By: rkneeshaw Re: Bench racing is worthless... - 10/06/04 07:50 PM
because if I had a neon, I would brag about it to everyone. I would turn the tide against all popular beleif that the neon is a complete pile of worthless steaming [censored], and that driving one, because its so amazingly fast, makes my dick grow by 3 inches! No joke!

Everyone should have a neon. They're badass.
Posted By: ATL-SVT_dup1 Re: Bench racing is worthless... - 10/06/04 07:51 PM
okay I guess this is becoming boring again. damn so what do you guys do here on the contour board now? Still talk about the same old tru-duals, quaife, terry haines is god, etc bs?
Posted By: Y2KSVT Re: Bench racing is worthless... - 10/06/04 07:53 PM
No, we talk ish about SRT-4's all day until some homosexual jackass comes on to prove us all wrong.

Mark
Posted By: ATL-SVT_dup1 Re: Bench racing is worthless... - 10/06/04 07:54 PM
Originally posted by Y2KSVT:
No, we talk ish about SRT-4's all day until some homosexual jackass comes on to prove us all wrong.

Mark





well I guess something has to change around here
Posted By: RTStabler51_dup1 Re: Bench racing is worthless... - 10/06/04 07:57 PM
No. I have been convinced that my contour is a piece of doggie doo doo and I'm going to trade it in this evening for a bad ass Neon. That every time I think of the car I think of saying "Hi" to someone one. Then, I'm going to eat my dinner off the back wing and go waste some Corvettes in it.

Originally posted by ATL-SVT:
okay I guess this is becoming boring again. damn so what do you guys do here on the contour board now? Still talk about the same old tru-duals, quaife, terry haines is god, etc bs?


Posted By: RTStabler51_dup1 Re: Bench racing is worthless... - 10/06/04 07:59 PM
Now to answer your question seriously, yes basically. Or the all to common Contour vs Kia Sephia question.

Originally posted by ATL-SVT:
okay I guess this is becoming boring again. damn so what do you guys do here on the contour board now? Still talk about the same old tru-duals, quaife, terry haines is god, etc bs?


Posted By: Y2KSVT Re: Bench racing is worthless... - 10/06/04 08:04 PM
Ryan, you do know that if you are willing to trade your Ford in for the new SRT-4, you get to upgrade to the Rainbow package for free! It includes rainbow racing stripes, 7 spoke wheels with each spoke being a different color of the rainbow, and LED exhaust tips that change color from red, to orange, to yellow, to green, to blue, to indigo, to violet! And if that's not gay enough, get down there in the next 15 minutes and they'll throw in the rainbow license plate cover and rainbow air freshener as an added bonus. Elton John will personally sign the ass end of you, and your car.

Mark
Posted By: RTStabler51_dup1 Re: Bench racing is worthless... - 10/06/04 08:11 PM
why do you think I'm getting it? Only mine is going to be the George Michael edtion.
Originally posted by Y2KSVT:
Ryan, you do know that if you are willing to trade your Ford in for the new SRT-4, you get to upgrade to the Rainbow package for free! It includes rainbow racing stripes, 7 spoke wheels with each spoke being a different color of the rainbow, and LED exhaust tips that change color from red, to orange, to yellow, to green, to blue, to indigo, to violet! And if that's not gay enough, get down there in the next 15 minutes and they'll throw in the rainbow license plate cover and rainbow air freshener as an added bonus. Elton John will personally sign the ass end of you, and your car.

Mark


Posted By: Steeda. Re: Bench racing is worthless... - 10/06/04 08:13 PM
Originally posted by RTStabler51:
why do you think I'm getting it? Only mine is going to be the George Michael edtion.
Originally posted by Y2KSVT:
Ryan, you do know that if you are willing to trade your Ford in for the new SRT-4, you get to upgrade to the Rainbow package for free! It includes rainbow racing stripes, 7 spoke wheels with each spoke being a different color of the rainbow, and LED exhaust tips that change color from red, to orange, to yellow, to green, to blue, to indigo, to violet! And if that's not gay enough, get down there in the next 15 minutes and they'll throw in the rainbow license plate cover and rainbow air freshener as an added bonus. Elton John will personally sign the ass end of you, and your car.

Mark








haha hehe
Posted By: Kremithefrog Re: Bench racing is worthless... - 10/06/04 10:23 PM

Kidding Tim.
Posted By: todras_dup1 Re: Bench racing is worthless... - 10/07/04 03:45 PM
Posted By: MxRacer Re: Bench racing is worthless... - 10/07/04 04:24 PM
Originally posted by RTStabler51:
No. I have been convinced that my contour is a piece of doggie doo doo and I'm going to trade it in this evening for a bad ass Neon. That every time I think of the car I think of saying "Hi" to someone one. Then, I'm going to eat my dinner off the back wing and go waste some Corvettes in it.





AAAAHHHHHH ha ha ha ha ha ha!!!

lmfao!!

here's why i don't own an srt-4...

"so, what kind of car do you have?"

"a neon"

"oh.... just got out of college eh?"

"no.... but it's an srt-4!"

"it's still a neon, though... right?"

"well.... yeah"

Posted By: Kremithefrog Re: Bench racing is worthless... - 10/07/04 08:17 PM
replace with a Contour SVT

oo so it's a grandma car?

no it's a SVT

i don't care what trim level it is, it's a grandma car.




True if they see the car/ride in it, it's different, same with the srt4 tho (not so much on the looks, tho some people really like its looks).

I tell you ppl, u'r not all that different.
Posted By: akrump47 Re: Bench racing is worthless... - 10/07/04 08:38 PM
I like SRT-4's and would be interested in spending some time with one.







Too bad I can't say the same about ATL-SVT.



Posted By: DemonSVT_dup1 It's a rental Dammit... - 10/07/04 08:47 PM
Originally posted by Kremithefrog:
replace with a Contour SVT

oo so it's a grandma car?

no it's a SVT

i don't care what trim level ( ) it is, it's a grandma car.




That's BS.

It's a freakin' rental car just like the Neon and you know it.

Typical 4 banging ATX just like every other Contour out there.


I love whoopin' people in my 4 bangin' slushbox 4-door family car.

They can keep the clueless WTF look because it fits them...
Posted By: Kremithefrog Re: Bench racing is worthless... - 10/07/04 09:22 PM
Originally posted by akrump47:
I like SRT-4's and would be interested in spending some time with one.

Too bad I can't say the same about ATL-SVT.




Me 2, and have spent time with one and enjoyed it.

Tim is cooler in person.


LMAO @ Demon.
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