replaced the CSVT with something a bit faster

Fast for cheap, the formula for success!

Nice Skittle.

I find it funny how people say "nice car, but it's still a Neon" type comments, coming from a group that drives and mods Contours.

Anyways, sweet car man! I always wanted a SRT-4.

Nice car, I would say sleeper but who am I kidding an SRT-4 can't be sleeper. You got any vids of the car?

Aaron

Originally posted by CSVT1214:
I find it funny how people say "nice car, but it's still a Neon" type comments, coming from a group that drives and mods Contours.

Now that I think about it, there is a slight difference in the situation. The Contour was originally designed to have 'some' driving experience included - European handling, available V-6 from day 1 & all. Poor Ford marketing & nagging problems did the Contour in (which did very well in Europe). If I've got my facts straight, the Neon was introduced as an econo-box & was then modded to become the SRT-4 - kinda an afterthought to capture some tuner market. That said, they did one helluva job with with the SRT-4!

If I was 20 something again, I'd be lookin' at one. Unfortunately, I'm 40-something so my preference of vehicles is taking me in a different direction than most CEGers.

Originally posted by TourDeForce:

Originally posted by CSVT1214:
I find it funny how people say "nice car, but it's still a Neon" type comments, coming from a group that drives and mods Contours.

Now that I think about it, there is a slight difference in the situation. The Contour was originally designed to have 'some' driving experience included - European handling, available V-6 from day 1 & all. Poor Ford marketing & nagging problems did the Contour in (which did very well in Europe). If I've got my facts straight, the Neon was introduced as an econo-box & was then modded to become the SRT-4 - kinda an afterthought to capture some tuner market. That said, they did one helluva job with with the SRT-4!

If I was 20 something again, I'd be lookin' at one. Unfortunately, I'm 40-something so my preference of vehicles is taking me in a different direction than most CEGers.

iam 32 now, and ya, its a fast car, that is for sure, i have some friends here in milwaukee who have some nice and fast modded neons, but all i can think about when i see them is "HI".. lol

Originally posted by TourDeForce:

Originally posted by CSVT1214:
I find it funny how people say "nice car, but it's still a Neon" type comments, coming from a group that drives and mods Contours.

Now that I think about it, there is a slight difference in the situation. The Contour was originally designed to have 'some' driving experience included - European handling, available V-6 from day 1 & all. Poor Ford marketing & nagging problems did the Contour in (which did very well in Europe). If I've got my facts straight, the Neon was introduced as an econo-box & was then modded to become the SRT-4 - kinda an afterthought to capture some tuner market. That said, they did one helluva job with with the SRT-4!

If I was 20 something again, I'd be lookin' at one. Unfortunately, I'm 40-something so my preference of vehicles is taking me in a different direction than most CEGers

X2

Jim T.

So, that SRT-4 has WELL OVER 400hp and 400lbs tq at the crank!

If so, how in the world do you drive/launch that thing? Is it your EDD?

Nice Neon!

I own a Lancer.

Nice car. I almost died in one when my buddy totaled his, but they're still nice....from a distance

Check out www.slowboyracing.com for parts. They have a lot of goodies for SRT-4's. I def say get the front mount and the crash bar (saved my buddies engine after the accident, it's still good and is awaiting a new shell to be transplanted into).

What did you do with the SVT?

Saying your car is a "bit" faster than your old CSVT is like in the movie "Airplane II" when the flight attendent said we're a "tad of coarse" and she went onto to answer what a "tad" was and it was just a million miles

Thats about the difference between 171 hp and 389

Congrats on the new ride

nothing like buying a car with all the hard work already done to it.

how much??

and hows the torque steer?

"fastest production car under $20k" if i recall motortrend, haha, there were a couple up at the track last night...i think one was running in the 13's

Originally posted by RespectTheContour:
"fastest production car under $20k" if i recall motortrend, haha, there were a couple up at the track last night...i think one was running in the 13's

To run anything respectable, slicks are a MUST!

With slicks they can be very fast.

Originally posted by 1BadCSVT:

I def say get the front mount and the crash bar (saved my buddies engine after the accident, it's still good and is awaiting a new shell to be transplanted into).

If it's making just under 400hp/tq at the wheels it most definitly already has a larger front mount. I didn't look at the pictures on the first page closely, but I'd bet it does.

Slicks are definitly a must for these cars if you want a decent time. Where you're at (and I'm at for all that matter) it's the difference between a 12 second pass and an 11 second pass at relativly close trap speeds.

Actually I'd be willing to bet I could pretty much list off everything you have, haha. I've got everything your car does but my injectors are smaller (I'm guessing you have RC750's) and my intake manifold and throttle body will be ported next week. Other than that we're probably the same with different brand components.

Edit: On further inspection it does look like that's the stock IC. Is that picture old? If not, did he give you the dyno sheets along with the car? If he didn't I don't think you have as much power as he told you. If he did you're sitting on an easy 25 horsepower. If you have any questions about anything send me a PM. I've got a 50 trim with a whole bunch of other crap.

Nice! Nice! I want one. One is for sale by me: red 04 with only 4,700 miles with a carbon fiber hood, different sideviews with integrated signals, stock everything else, guy is askin 11,800 but it has a salvage title, and everything is put back to together and painted just like new with new parts. It looks great. Is that worth it to pick up say if one had the cash flow?

11,800 is crazy low for that car. I know it's a salvage title, but still. If that car had a clean title it would be at least $5,000 higher than it is. Do you know what kind of accident it was in? Go look at it if you're interested and see how it looks. Ask if you have questions.

The '04s are the ones with the best transmissions BTW. They come with the LSD (which you don't get in '03) and they don't have problems with synchros or exploding clutchs like some of the '05s have been recently.

Originally posted by TheeSVTShow:
Nice! Nice! I want one. One is for sale by me: red 04 with only 4,700 miles with a carbon fiber hood, different sideviews with integrated signals, stock everything else, guy is askin 11,800 but it has a salvage title, and everything is put back to together and painted just like new with new parts. It looks great. Is that worth it to pick up say if one had the cash flow?

Buy it and sell me your CSVT.

the dodge dealer by me had about 8 of them for sale this past spring. 2 of them were listed at $13K with around 30K miles on them. So, $11K for one of them isn't crazy low. Wasn't a fan of the car when I test drove it, just seemed cheap to me. Sure they are fast, but that is about it. If I want fast and cheap, I would just by a MC.

the aftermarket exhaust systems I've heard on SRT-4's makes me want to vomit. idk, it's fast, that's for sure, but I hear they don't hold up very well over time (wont be a high mileage car, that's for sure), and you do sacrifice a lot of features for cheap+power

get rid of the crosshair!

Looks nice. Its amazing how they turned the neon from a turd into something like that. It just sucks to try to represent the SRT-4 with a crowed full of retards and their riced out 97's. (I know a few in my town I'd love to light the gas tank off in) But at least you can put them all to shame! And not to mention alot of other cars to boot!

Congrats on the car and treat it well!

Which AGP turbokit is that. I had a ride in a 60-1 powered one on stock fuel still that was simply nuts.

Nice Ride...

Great car. If it makes you happy that is all that matters. My buddy has one and boy are they fun to drive! How about some interior shots.

Originally posted by Doppelg�?¤nger:
So, that SRT-4 has WELL OVER 400hp and 400lbs tq at the crank! If so, how in the world do you drive/launch that thing? Is it your EDD?

EDD? yeah, i'm working on launching it. it needs bigger axles and slicks, cause i'm afraid to dump it too high right now, and it spins bad. all the way through 1st, 2nd and half way through 3rd, before it'll catch. i took it to the track right after i got it, and i'll be going back next month. my goal is to get low 13's/high 12's on the street tires. it's got the mph to be in the 11's, but it needs slicks for that, and a better driver mod, but i'll get there.

Originally posted by skrilla187:
What did you do with the SVT?

i sold it to my cousin, so it's still up here in the U.P. of michigan.

Originally posted by TGO:
nothing like buying a car with all the hard work already done to it.

how much??

and hows the torque steer?

i pretty much stole it. books for 14,000 stock, turbo kit was 3600, exhuast was about 400, not sure what the pcm cost, gameboy advance thrown in to tune it, that was 80, and it was all professionaly installed and tuned by realtune in clevleand ohio, so after the cost of that, probably close to 5000 at least in mods/work done. i bought it for 13000.

not sure what the tq steer would be like with slicks, but on the street tires on the street, 3rd sucks ass, i'm all over the road.

Originally posted by RyeLou:

Originally posted by 1BadCSVT:

I def say get the front mount and the crash bar (saved my buddies engine after the accident, it's still good and is awaiting a new shell to be transplanted into).

If it's making just under 400hp/tq at the wheels it most definitly already has a larger front mount. I didn't look at the pictures on the first page closely, but I'd bet it does.

Slicks are definitly a must for these cars if you want a decent time. Where you're at (and I'm at for all that matter) it's the difference between a 12 second pass and an 11 second pass at relativly close trap speeds.

Actually I'd be willing to bet I could pretty much list off everything you have, haha. I've got everything your car does but my injectors are smaller (I'm guessing you have RC750's) and my intake manifold and throttle body will be ported next week. Other than that we're probably the same with different brand components.

Edit: On further inspection it does look like that's the stock IC. Is that picture old? If not, did he give you the dyno sheets along with the car? If he didn't I don't think you have as much power as he told you. If he did you're sitting on an easy 25 horsepower. If you have any questions about anything send me a PM. I've got a 50 trim with a whole bunch of other crap.

no, that's an aftermaket agp intercooler. i do have the dyno sheet from realtune also. that pic is from 2 days ago. right now i'm just trying to figure out what i need to put the power to the ground, and what will break when i do. hopefully i can get better times next month at the track. first time i was there all i could get was a 13.7, spinning all the way till the 2nd half of 3rd gear, and having a 2.7 60' time, which is hideous. i will be buying slicks and what not over the winter, but i want to get better times off the street tires. i've got the sock pilot sports on the car right now. i'd also like to know what kind of street tires to get next year for daily driving that stick a little better than the ones i have now.

Originally posted by Spyderman:
Which AGP turbokit is that. I had a ride in a 60-1 powered one on stock fuel still that was simply nuts.

Nice Ride...

http://www.agpturbo.com/product.php?productid=16269&cat=311&page=1

Originally posted by Rickabod:

Originally posted by Doppelg�?¤nger:
So, that SRT-4 has WELL OVER 400hp and 400lbs tq at the crank! If so, how in the world do you drive/launch that thing? Is it your EDD?

EDD? yeah, i'm working on launching it. it needs bigger axles and slicks, cause i'm afraid to dump it too high right now, and it spins bad. all the way through 1st, 2nd and half way through 3rd, before it'll catch. i took it to the track right after i got it, and i'll be going back next month. my goal is to get low 13's/high 12's on the street tires. it's got the mph to be in the 11's, but it needs slicks for that, and a better driver mod, but i'll get there.

EDD = Every Day Driver.

Wow, I figured as much about traction problems. Man, that's a fast car there.

I like it.

Originally posted by Doppelg�?¤nger:

Originally posted by Rickabod:

Originally posted by Doppelg�?¤nger:
So, that SRT-4 has WELL OVER 400hp and 400lbs tq at the crank! If so, how in the world do you drive/launch that thing? Is it your EDD?

EDD? yeah, i'm working on launching it. it needs bigger axles and slicks, cause i'm afraid to dump it too high right now, and it spins bad. all the way through 1st, 2nd and half way through 3rd, before it'll catch. i took it to the track right after i got it, and i'll be going back next month. my goal is to get low 13's/high 12's on the street tires. it's got the mph to be in the 11's, but it needs slicks for that, and a better driver mod, but i'll get there.

EDD = Every Day Driver.

Wow, I figured as much about traction problems. Man, that's a fast car there.

yeah, it's my summer daily driver, the other 6 months i'm rollin' in my exploder.

If that's their direct fit intercooler it's still a bit small for your power. It does okay though. Don't get upgraded axles...I think that's a bad idea. If you get axles to hold the power the weakest link is then move to something within the transmission. The axles are relativly inexpensive for one and for two you could do both of them within an hour if you really tried to. I'd much rather fix those than having clutch or other transmission issues. I have the ACT clutch and I plan on leaving my axles alone.

Street tires are worthless witih your power. Theres really no reason to even try at the track with those. Honestly with the power you have and the way boost builds on our cars, theres nothing you can do on street tires to do much better. The only thing you can do is roll out in 1st gear and go half throttle, shift to 2 and go half throbble, then nail it in 3rd. Even with that you'll only hit a mid 13 but your trap speeds will be like 117mph.

My suggestion is to get BFG drag radials. I spin first still (and every SRT always will without slicks) but second is much more managable. It will only spin the tires a very slight bit, but it still pulls the car insanely hard so it's not a problem. I have 225/50/15 drag radials, but they make 225's in 17". I'd suggest not getting the 17" ones without getting wider wheels. The stock wheels are only 6" wide which is retarded.

Oh, and that "torque steer" won't ever go away. Believe it or not the Quaife LSD isn't good enough to keep up with the power that's made once the turbo spools up. If you really want to get rid of it theres another LSD option but the unit alone is just under $2,000. This is the reason why DCX decided to run the Caliber SRT-4's open diff. The Quaife causes the car to get pulled side to side when the power is moved from one side to the other. Instead of them spending extra money for a good LSD (and having to increase cost) they decided on open diff... VERY stupid idea IMO, but whatever.

Granted I haven't drivven a 400whp srt4, I have driven a near 300whp one and the torque steer, although present, really ain't that bad. For a stock differential on a stock/near stock car, Dodge did nothing wrong. My escort has more torque steer than a stock/near stock srt4.

Oh, and 2.7 60' sucks. Like posted above, running on street tires won't get you anywhere fast, but..... there are reasons to be able to launch decently and know how to get on it with street tires.

Originally posted by Kremithefrog:
Granted I haven't drivven a 400whp srt4, I have driven a near 300whp one and the torque steer, although present, really ain't that bad. For a stock differential on a stock/near stock car, Dodge did nothing wrong. My escort has more torque steer than a stock/near stock srt4.

The problem doesn't really show itself until you change turbos or highly modify the stock one. The stock one doesn't flow enough air to hold the power it makes to redline. So when someone with a stock turbo SRT claims they make 300hp, which is fairly easy to do...know that's a peak number and by redline they're probably around 265 or so. They make a "SST" turbo (super stock turbo) that does flow a little better...but the downside is all the heat created from forcing it to flow so much air. With the bigger turbos once they spool up they hit insanely hard and hold it to redline.

With the Caliber coming with 300hp from the factory it should be pretty interesting to see how it does out of the box as far as torque steer goes.

Originally posted by RyeLou:
If that's their direct fit intercooler it's still a bit small for your power. It does okay though. Don't get upgraded axles...I think that's a bad idea. If you get axles to hold the power the weakest link is then move to something within the transmission. The axles are relativly inexpensive for one and for two you could do both of them within an hour if you really tried to. I'd much rather fix those than having clutch or other transmission issues. I have the ACT clutch and I plan on leaving my axles alone.

Street tires are worthless witih your power. Theres really no reason to even try at the track with those. Honestly with the power you have and the way boost builds on our cars, theres nothing you can do on street tires to do much better. The only thing you can do is roll out in 1st gear and go half throttle, shift to 2 and go half throbble, then nail it in 3rd. Even with that you'll only hit a mid 13 but your trap speeds will be like 117mph.

My suggestion is to get BFG drag radials. I spin first still (and every SRT always will without slicks) but second is much more managable. It will only spin the tires a very slight bit, but it still pulls the car insanely hard so it's not a problem. I have 225/50/15 drag radials, but they make 225's in 17". I'd suggest not getting the 17" ones without getting wider wheels. The stock wheels are only 6" wide which is retarded.

everyone on srtfourms is saying the axles should be replaced, cause they'll keep breaking on you. the all say the tranny is fine, it's not a cheap ford tranny, it won't throw diff pins or anything like that, so they said it's not that important to upgrade to a lsd unless you're a road racer. but if i put slicks on, with my power, they said axles won't last long.

Who is "they"? I'm friends with a few of the more "popular" (read that as older, mature and experienced) guys on the forums and they all say just stick with '04 axles. If you have an '03 then definitly "upgrade" but upgrade to the '04/'05 axles. There are plenty of people making tons of passes on slicks with stock axles. Two of the three 10 second cars are factory axles.

Originally posted by RyeLou:
11,800 is crazy low for that car. I know it's a salvage title, but still. If that car had a clean title it would be at least $5,000 higher than it is. Do you know what kind of accident it was in? Go look at it if you're interested and see how it looks. Ask if you have questions.

The '04s are the ones with the best transmissions BTW. They come with the LSD (which you don't get in '03) and they don't have problems with synchros or exploding clutchs like some of the '05s have been recently.

No I don't know how severe of an accident it was in, it was a front end crash if that helps. I know that it was all completely replaced back to normal with authentic everything. I will have to talk to the owner instead of the wife, he was on vaca when I called. She said he was willing to take best offer also. Everything is so clean on it too.

Wouldn't it be better to buy a salvaged one and then diy? He probably bought it for no more than 3,500 then dumped another say 3 into it.

Even so this is a tremendous deal, and to everyone else out there that dogs on these cars, everyone to their own. If you like it then drive it. Lots of people dog on the SVT's but I still like mine and don't care what they say.

Originally posted by Mystique97:

Originally posted by TheeSVTShow:
Nice! Nice! I want one. One is for sale by me: red 04 with only 4,700 miles with a carbon fiber hood, different sideviews with integrated signals, stock everything else, guy is askin 11,800 but it has a salvage title, and everything is put back to together and painted just like new with new parts. It looks great. Is that worth it to pick up say if one had the cash flow?

Buy it and sell me your CSVT.

I will consider but I thought you wanted one with lower miles. PM me.

Originally posted by TheeSVTShow:

Originally posted by Mystique97:

Originally posted by TheeSVTShow:
Nice! Nice! I want one. One is for sale by me: red 04 with only 4,700 miles with a carbon fiber hood, different sideviews with integrated signals, stock everything else, guy is askin 11,800 but it has a salvage title, and everything is put back to together and painted just like new with new parts. It looks great. Is that worth it to pick up say if one had the cash flow?

Buy it and sell me your CSVT.

I will consider but I thought you wanted one with lower miles. PM me.

Well for one thing if my parents would let me have 2 cars I'd do it, and I'd need to learn stick, and I need a loan, co-signer (my g/f might do it I'm sure she knows how much I want a CSVT

) and mileage is a factor too. My car is a 97 with almost 83K on it.

With front end stuff you really need to be careful, espicially on FWD vehicles. I'd ask if they wouldn't mind letting you take it to a suspension/front end shop and have them check it out. It could have been done right, but spending that much money it's one of those things you really want to make sure, ya know? Otherwise it sounds great.

i dont kno whats wrong with folks talkin down about the neon, it has been a scca favorite since its release in 95.

Originally posted by RyeLou:
With front end stuff you really need to be careful, espicially on FWD vehicles. I'd ask if they wouldn't mind letting you take it to a suspension/front end shop and have them check it out. It could have been done right, but spending that much money it's one of those things you really want to make sure, ya know? Otherwise it sounds great.

Yup, well I told them not to hold their breath last i talked to them, I needed to seel some things before I got to it. But if everything goes rapidly and for a good price on my part well then I would have enough for a awesome down payment on something if that car is gone. Believe me I would do some big time analysis on this car before buying it. It would need to last me a long time. Thanks for all your input I will keep you guys updated.

Originally posted by jitb:
i dont kno whats wrong with folks talkin down about the neon, it has been a scca favorite since its release in 95.

as a car in general, it's one of the lamest ever. it's stereotyped as a girls car, most don't have many options, hell, mine doesn't have power windows in the back or cruise control! for the most part, they're [censored] boxes, only thing with an srt is that they're fast [censored] boxes.

Originally posted by Rickabod:

Originally posted by jitb:
i dont kno whats wrong with folks talkin down about the neon, it has been a scca favorite since its release in 95.

as a car in general, it's one of the lamest ever. it's stereotyped as a girls car, most don't have many options, hell, mine doesn't have power windows in the back or cruise control! for the most part, they're [censored] boxes, only thing with an srt is that they're fast [censored] boxes.

well since neons have came out they have been a very well competitor in Scca, i figured as a neon owner u would know it history, and what they turn into. the 1g Acr, was a autox dream, a strictly built track car. you know why they cut out some stuff on the srt4, they were tryin to keep it under the 20k mark.

Originally posted by RyeLou:

Originally posted by 1BadCSVT:

I def say get the front mount and the crash bar (saved my buddies engine after the accident, it's still good and is awaiting a new shell to be transplanted into).

If it's making just under 400hp/tq at the wheels it most definitly already has a larger front mount. I didn't look at the pictures on the first page closely, but I'd bet it does.

I'm sure it does, but the problem with most aftermarket FMIC is that they do not have a replacement bar for the front bumper support so you either have to cut out part of it or remove it completely. Think about it, how safe is that.

Ours gives you the big FMIC that you want, with the safety you need.

Originally posted by jitb:

Originally posted by Rickabod:

Originally posted by jitb:
i dont kno whats wrong with folks talkin down about the neon, it has been a scca favorite since its release in 95.

as a car in general, it's one of the lamest ever. it's stereotyped as a girls car, most don't have many options, hell, mine doesn't have power windows in the back or cruise control! for the most part, they're [censored] boxes, only thing with an srt is that they're fast [censored] boxes.

well since neons have came out they have been a very well competitor in Scca, i figured as a neon owner u would know it history, and what they turn into. the 1g Acr, was a autox dream, a strictly built track car. you know why they cut out some stuff on the srt4, they were tryin to keep it under the 20k mark.

i know about the acr, and i don't care.

Originally posted by 1BadCSVT:

Originally posted by RyeLou:

Originally posted by 1BadCSVT:

I def say get the front mount and the crash bar (saved my buddies engine after the accident, it's still good and is awaiting a new shell to be transplanted into).

If it's making just under 400hp/tq at the wheels it most definitly already has a larger front mount. I didn't look at the pictures on the first page closely, but I'd bet it does.

I'm sure it does, but the problem with most aftermarket FMIC is that they do not have a replacement bar for the front bumper support so you either have to cut out part of it or remove it completely .

that's it right there.

Seems that there are a few of us from CEG moved into SRT-4's after Contours. I'm sure you have perused the SRT Forums, so no need for me to repeat information here.

You probably already know that we offer modifed stock bumper bars that fit up to 12" front mount intercoolers.

Originally posted by Rickabod:

Originally posted by jitb:

Originally posted by Rickabod:

Originally posted by jitb:
i dont kno whats wrong with folks talkin down about the neon, it has been a scca favorite since its release in 95.

as a car in general, it's one of the lamest ever. it's stereotyped as a girls car, most don't have many options, hell, mine doesn't have power windows in the back or cruise control! for the most part, they're [censored] boxes, only thing with an srt is that they're fast [censored] boxes.

well since neons have came out they have been a very well competitor in Scca, i figured as a neon owner u would know it history, and what they turn into. the 1g Acr, was a autox dream, a strictly built track car. you know why they cut out some stuff on the srt4, they were tryin to keep it under the 20k mark.

i know about the acr, and i don't care.

lol perfect response.. just try not to speak abou things u dont know about.

Originally posted by Chris@CTA:
You probably already know that we offer modifed stock bumper bars that fit up to 12" front mount intercoolers.

yeah, but i bought the car like this, if i would've done it all my self, i would've gone that route, but right now, i have no plans to put on a different fmic because i'm trying to get better times with the set up i have, i'm making more than enough hp/tq than i need at this moment. when i get bored, i'll update that, and plug in the gameboy advance and tune her up to 30psi and see what i can get.

Chris I think I've actually exchanged emails with you before about parts you sell. I don't remember what it was or if I bought it, but I do remember asking you about something...maybe availability.

I have the CTI FMIC and their bumper bar. It's very nice. I can't fit the stock mesh in front of it though, so some of the fins have some rock chips.

Originally posted by RyeLou:
Chris I think I've actually exchanged emails with you before about parts you sell. I don't remember what it was or if I bought it, but I do remember asking you about something...maybe availability.

I have the CTI FMIC and their bumper bar. It's very nice. I can't fit the stock mesh in front of it though, so some of the fins have some rock chips.

I am running the AGP direct fit, and needless to say (as per the instructions), it touches the front bumper. I didn't cut the bumper, left in the mesh, however, I will upgrade to a full height FMIC at some point, use one of our modified stock bumper bars, and no more touching of the bumper.

Originally posted by Loco4G63:
Nice Neon!

I own a Lancer.

and i a Mustang

nice car though. i seriously considered those and still do, as a DD. definitely get your money's worth!

Originally posted by svtizzle4stizzle:

Originally posted by Loco4G63:
Nice Neon!

I own a Lancer.

and i a Mustang

LMAO!

Originally posted by Chris@CTA:

Originally posted by RyeLou:
Chris I think I've actually exchanged emails with you before about parts you sell. I don't remember what it was or if I bought it, but I do remember asking you about something...maybe availability.

I have the CTI FMIC and their bumper bar. It's very nice. I can't fit the stock mesh in front of it though, so some of the fins have some rock chips.

I am running the AGP direct fit, and needless to say (as per the instructions), it touches the front bumper. I didn't cut the bumper, left in the mesh, however, I will upgrade to a full height FMIC at some point, use one of our modified stock bumper bars, and no more touching of the bumper.

my front bumper is cut and the lower 2 grill pieces are gone because of how it sticks out. i don't care though, it's fast.

Originally posted by svtizzle4stizzle:

Originally posted by Loco4G63:
Nice Neon!

I own a Lancer.

and i a Mustang

And the rest of us are still tooling around in Contour powered vehicles.

Originally posted by gotapex:

Originally posted by svtizzle4stizzle:

Originally posted by Loco4G63:
Nice Neon!

I own a Lancer.

and i a Mustang

And the rest of us are still tooling around in Contour powered vehicles.

You're the one with the Noble, right?

Originally posted by Rickabod:

my front bumper is cut and the lower 2 grill pieces are gone because of how it sticks out. i don't care though, it's fast.

Fast yes, but the problem is road debris. The mesh is there to provide the IC protection from stuff that could dent the IC and potentially cause a hole and a boost leak.

Originally posted by RyeLou:

Originally posted by Rickabod:

my front bumper is cut and the lower 2 grill pieces are gone because of how it sticks out. i don't care though, it's fast.

Fast yes, but the problem is road debris. The mesh is there to provide the IC protection from stuff that could dent the IC and potentially cause a hole and a boost leak.

A lot of us are running a bar and plate design IC, rather than tube and fin, so the bar and plate is pretty strong, and can take a lot of abuse. The tube and fin design is basically like a radiator. Saying all of this, I kept the mesh, mainly for looks, but also as noted, to help protect the IC.

True. I have the CTI which is a tube and fin style. I love the looks but the dings from rocks are starting to worry me. I'll have to come up with something to cover the IC. I have their crash bar but with that the stock mesh wouldn't fit.