Sunroof Gears - 02/12/04 10:08 PM
I've found a guy who will fabricate sunroof gears for us for around $25 each and only requires a minimum order of three to retool his equipment. Anyone interested?
Re: Sunroof Gears - 02/12/04 10:43 PM
ARE YOU KIDDING???!! Please don't mess with my emotions like this!! If you're 100% real...I love you! Are they going to be plastic or metal??? Put me down for 1 or 2 anyway. Even if they're plastic, it's better than the one I have now. If they are plastic, maybe a higher temp or harder composite plastic? We need info!!! 
Re: Sunroof Gears - 02/12/04 11:42 PM
i agreee....u best not be pulling our chains 
Re: Sunroof Gears - 02/13/04 12:21 AM
Has he seen the gears yet ? It seems like everybody else that has tried to get somebody to make gears has not been able to get a good price after the peopel have seen the gears.
Re: Sunroof Gears - 02/13/04 12:39 AM
His name is Jeff Kaplan and her specializes in making BMW speedometor gear replacements.They will be hardened plastic, like the OEM ones. All he needs is an original gear to use as a template. This is his his email(don't laugh)
hamonbagel@yahoo.com
Let me see if I can find his webpage.
hamonbagel@yahoo.com
Let me see if I can find his webpage.
Re: Sunroof Gears - 02/13/04 12:51 AM
Here it is www.odometergears.com 
Re: Sunroof Gears - 02/13/04 01:01 AM
So will they be a harder plastic than OEM ones??? Not as prone to melting ......
Re: Sunroof Gears - 02/13/04 02:03 AM
im in. i cant wait to have a well working moonroof again!
Re: Sunroof Gears - 02/13/04 04:53 AM
I am in at the $25... Lets hear more!
Re: Sunroof Gears - 02/13/04 12:40 PM
Yeah I'd be in too.
Re: Sunroof Gears - 02/13/04 04:23 PM
I've convinced him to make us one prototype for free to see how it works.
Re: Sunroof Gears - 02/13/04 05:29 PM
i'd be in for 2!
Re: Sunroof Gears - 02/13/04 06:14 PM
if he builds them, I will buy.
Re: Sunroof Gears - 02/13/04 06:34 PM
As someone who tried this all ready, I REALLY hope this guy can make them, but everyone I talked to said the same thing until they actually saw the gear. The problem lies in that it is a complex gear with multiple pitches and a mix of straight and worm gears.
I'd be willing to supply the test gear if I can get the free one or even just pay shipping for it. I even have the gear all ready pulled out. I do have to have my gear returned though (it took me a couple months to get it back from the last guy).
Drop me a PM if interested.
Rick
I'd be willing to supply the test gear if I can get the free one or even just pay shipping for it. I even have the gear all ready pulled out. I do have to have my gear returned though (it took me a couple months to get it back from the last guy).
Drop me a PM if interested.
Rick
Re: Sunroof Gears - 02/13/04 06:46 PM
Originally posted by JonnySVT:
So will they be a harder plastic than OEM ones??? Not as prone to melting ......
I guess I wouldn't care. My originals have lasted 8 years. I just want to be able to replace the gears for under $50, rather than spend $300 on the whole motor.
Re: Sunroof Gears - 02/14/04 02:38 PM
Very interested. If $25 is correct that would be nice.
Re: Sunroof Gears - 02/14/04 04:14 PM
Here is what he will make the gears out of.
http://64.4.10.250/cgi-bin/linkrd?_lang=EN&lah=3596514bee3862e2a4e3872e7ac6878f&lat=1076775162&hm___action=http%3a%2f%2f216%2e239%2e41%2e104%2fsearch%3fq%3dcache%3aVirpLyKlfQ4J%3awww%2emdayinc%2ecom%2fdata_sheets%2fah%2fAH50G20L%2epdf%2bacetal%2bm90%2bspecification%26hl%3den%26ie%3dUTF%2d8
http://64.4.10.250/cgi-bin/linkrd?_lang=EN&lah=3596514bee3862e2a4e3872e7ac6878f&lat=1076775162&hm___action=http%3a%2f%2f216%2e239%2e41%2e104%2fsearch%3fq%3dcache%3aVirpLyKlfQ4J%3awww%2emdayinc%2ecom%2fdata_sheets%2fah%2fAH50G20L%2epdf%2bacetal%2bm90%2bspecification%26hl%3den%26ie%3dUTF%2d8
Re: Sunroof Gears - 02/14/04 04:18 PM
Originally posted by RogerB:
Originally posted by JonnySVT:
So will they be a harder plastic than OEM ones??? Not as prone to melting ......
I guess I wouldn't care. My originals have lasted 8 years. I just want to be able to replace the gears for under $50, rather than spend $300 on the whole motor.
My motor just went out, but the gears are fine.
Re: Sunroof Gears - 02/14/04 05:46 PM
Originally posted by TexasRealtor:
Here is what he will make the gears out of.
http://64.4.10.250/cgi-bin/linkrd?_lang=EN&lah=3596514bee3862e2a4e3872e7ac6878f&lat=1076775162&hm___action=http%3a%2f%2f216%2e239%2e41%2e104%2fsearch%3fq%3dcache%3aVirpLyKlfQ4J%3awww%2emdayinc%2ecom%2fdata_sheets%2fah%2fAH50G20L%2epdf%2bacetal%2bm90%2bspecification%26hl%3den%26ie%3dUTF%2d8
The link apparently had a time limit. But the plastic resin can withstand temps of over 300 degrees. The only thing he is concerned about is the amount of torque it will be under.
Re: Sunroof Gears - 02/14/04 06:44 PM
YOu can count me in Mr
Re: Sunroof Gears - 02/15/04 09:01 PM
i'm in...it would be nice to have a monnroof that works again...
Re: Sunroof Gears - 02/16/04 02:53 AM
Put me on the list please.
Re: Sunroof Gears - 02/17/04 03:06 PM
The guy is getting his new injection machine installed and hope to have up and running this weekend. He has not seen the actual gear, but I have sent him pictures and described it's complexity. He is confident that once he gets the final gear( he expects his first couple to need some tweaking)that he can produce them for $25 + $4 S/H. 
Re: Sunroof Gears - 02/17/04 05:39 PM
ME 2 Please! 
Re: Sunroof Gears - 02/20/04 09:39 PM
Jeff Caplan almost has his new resin injection machine going. He needs 1 perfect gear to make the mold. Whoever is willing to mail him one(he says he will overnight back in about a week) will get the initial gear for free. He requests that you send it priority mail or something so that it could be tracked. He is also looking for anyone who may have an extra motor unit so he could test his prototypes for various stresses, torque, heat, etc. Can anyone help? If so, send him an email at hamonbagel@yahoo.com
TR
TR
Re: Sunroof Gears - 02/21/04 11:16 PM
Originally posted by TexasRealtor:
He needs 1 perfect gear...
Anyone? I hate to take mine apart now that it's working.
Re: Sunroof Gears - 02/21/04 11:29 PM
Wish I could, but mine's already dead and gone. I have been talking to him through email and he told me he didn't need a motor, just a gear. ANYBODY, for the love of God!! Send this man a gear!
Re: Sunroof Gears - 02/22/04 12:22 AM
Originally posted by TexasRealtor:
Originally posted by TexasRealtor:
He needs 1 perfect gear...
Anyone? I hate to take mine apart now that it's working.
Did you PM Buckshot77 ??? If you look above it looked like he had the gear already out and would be willing he just needed you to PM him if you wanted him to do it.
I dont know if I would consider yours to be a perfect gear now since you have had problems with yours anyway.
Re: Sunroof Gears - 02/22/04 02:36 AM
I have a Spare working one If Interested. Just PM Me
Re: Sunroof Gears - 02/22/04 05:08 PM
Originally posted by moxnix:
Originally posted by TexasRealtor:
Originally posted by TexasRealtor:
He needs 1 perfect gear...
Anyone? I hate to take mine apart now that it's working.
Did you PM Buckshot77 ???
Yes
Re: Sunroof Gears - 02/22/04 05:13 PM
Originally posted by PitSvt:
I have a Spare working one If Interested. Just PM Me
You have a PM
Re: Sunroof Gears - 02/22/04 05:16 PM
You may also call Jeff in VA at (757)593-3478. Summer is coming, let's get this gear going!!!
Re: Sunroof Gears - 02/23/04 07:43 PM
Just an FYI, Jeff and I got together on getting the sample so we're good to go. Keep an eye out for pricing and availability.
Thanks,
Rick
Thanks,
Rick
Re: Sunroof Gears - 02/24/04 01:04 AM
There are two reasons the gears go south.
1. Hot plastic worm gear melts the plastic. Might get to be more than 300F in Texas.
2. The tracks that the moonroof rides on get dry and cause excessive torque to be put on the motor/gear.
Every so often, I put some more machine oil in the tracks on mine. The motor seems to run much smoother after I do.
My idea a while back was to make some metal gears. If that guy can make a mold, and inject it with wax, I know they can be made in Bronze (which is fairly cheap). It would be done with the lost wax method, just like jewelry. I just had a hard time with the mold.
1. Hot plastic worm gear melts the plastic. Might get to be more than 300F in Texas.
2. The tracks that the moonroof rides on get dry and cause excessive torque to be put on the motor/gear.
Every so often, I put some more machine oil in the tracks on mine. The motor seems to run much smoother after I do.
My idea a while back was to make some metal gears. If that guy can make a mold, and inject it with wax, I know they can be made in Bronze (which is fairly cheap). It would be done with the lost wax method, just like jewelry. I just had a hard time with the mold.
Re: Sunroof Gears - 02/24/04 07:06 PM
Originally posted by Buckshot77:
Just an FYI, Jeff and I got together on getting the sample so we're good to go. Keep an eye out for pricing and availability.
Thanks,
Rick
Thanks Rick. Any inquires should be forwarded to Rick regarding the gear.
TR
Re: Sunroof Gears - 02/24/04 07:17 PM
No problem. We should have pricing and availability worked out in the next week or so.
Thanks,
Rick
Thanks,
Rick
Re: Sunroof Gears - 02/25/04 06:22 AM
you rock rick can't wait to have a working sunroof again
can't wait to have a working sunroof again