Pro-Flow 75mm for all Duratecs

1. 97CS
2. Speed Demon
3. My SVT
4. JSUMoose1489
5. obicanobi0
6. SVTMike
7. Skeletor
8. Svt&GiXxEr_DrVr

Post any questions you have and I'll call Pro-Flow. Thanks

Depends on when is this going to be finalized. I can't afford it til May, and I need this!

Like everyone else, i am in if that's the tuned in price

Everyone remember these come calibrated for 19lb Injectors!

If you do not have them you will run Dangerously lean!

This is not a just simple plug and play mod for non-SVT's.

Also a lot of the HP gains found on SVT's are from leaning the mixture out by calibrating the Meter's transfer function to read slightly less voltage per air mass than the meter is actually flowing. (I.E. Yes that means even leaner without 19lb injectors!)

So only get this if you have 19lb injectors. (or larger but that's another story & calibration altogether)

I have one for sale in the classifieds.... i will sell it for the same price and I will pay shipping... send me a pm...

1. 97CS
2. Speed Demon
3 . My SVT
4. JSUMoose1489
5. obicanobi0
6. SVTMike
7. Skeletor
8. Svt&GiXxEr_DrVr
9. AirKnight
10. hunddog

Everything DemonSVT said is correct. I'll call the company Monday and get all the information. Thanks

ok then, edit, i'm only in if its tuned for my 17lb injectors, my maf already runs a spot lean with the kkm over the stock airbox so i dont need to blow up my [censored]

at this point I'm sitting on the fence...... I want it fosho, but I'd like to see a total cost first seeing as how this wasn't my next scheduled purchase for the tour. It's close though since a new intake is on the list... If you want you can add me to the list for asthetic purposes, but I ain't signing anything yet.

SVT Cuervo....you are the undisputed KING of Group Buys!! First the Brullen exhaust, now this???

I'd love to get in on this, but need more info on it(calibration, etc.) are we looking at a date sometime in the future?? I hope so, because I need some time to get together the $$ (especailly after the Brullen GB).

1. 97CS
2. Speed Demon
3 . My SVT
4. JSUMoose1489
5. obicanobi0
6. SVTMike
7. Skeletor
8. Svt&GiXxEr_DrVr
9. AirKnight
10. hunddog
11. ALT-SVT(maybe)

I'm just makin this list to give an idea of who all wants the MAF. I can't talk to him untill tommorow so sorry about the delay on the questions. Thanks

I am in for the GB.

www.musclemotors.com used to be the cheapest place to buy them at $179.99. But they raised the price when I talked to them on the phone on friday. It was going to be $235 shipped, ouch

I wonder if I could get a non-flanged one and sell my MAF adaptor.

Originally posted by SVTCuervo:

11. ALT-SVT(maybe)

Dammit man! I live in ATLANTA not ALTANTA!!!!! GEEEZ!!!

j/k

Originally posted by DemonSVT:
Everyone remember these come calibrated for 19lb Injectors!

If you do not have them you will run Dangerously lean!

This is not a just simple plug and play mod for non-SVT's.

Also a lot of the HP gains found on SVT's are from leaning the mixture out by calibrating the Meter's transfer function to read slightly less voltage per air mass than the meter is actually flowing. (I.E. Yes that means even leaner without 19lb injectors!)

So only get this if you have 19lb injectors. (or larger but that's another story & calibration altogether)

so does this mean it will not work for the non-svt's? or what needs to be done in order to make it work???

1. 97CS
2. Speed Demon
3 . My SVT
4. JSUMoose1489
5. obicanobi0
6. SVTMike
7. Skeletor
8. Svt&GiXxEr_DrVr
9. AirKnight
10. hunddog
11. ATL-SVT(maybe)

how does this one compare to the one at spmotorsports? they say its for all 2.5's and custom calibrate it to your vehicle codes and mods already performed.
http://www.spmotorsports.com/contour_maf.html

I am definitely in if it is calibrated for the SVT injectors! Are you going to accept Paypal? Thanks.

Yeah, I don't even know what kind of injectors I have. How do I find out? I have a '97 Contour Sport-Duratec. How much are new injectors?

It is the same one that SP sells, so I would assume that it compares the same. I am def. in if its calibrated, that price is oustanding!!
-Matt

This sounds like a great deal. If it's calibrated for a SVT I'm in.

how much for shipping?

I'M IN, count me IN!

Eric

Originally posted by SVTCuervo:
9. AirKnight

I'm only in if I don't need to pay until May at the earliest. And it also have to allow me to have custom parameters, otherwise I'll have to get outside of the GB.

1. 97CS
2. Speed Demon
3. My SVT
4. JSUMoose1489
5. obicanobi0
6. SVTMike
7. Skeletor
8. Svt&GiXxEr_DrVr
9. AirKnight
10. hunddog
11. ATL-SVT(maybe
12. HoosierContour
13. Baby SHO
14. slvr98svt
15. darkside
16. FlechaAutoSports

This is the same one sold at SP Motorsport. I'll call the guy tommorow. Thanks

Yeah, so it's not calibrated to the regular Duratecs? Only the SVTs?

Originally posted by 97CS:
Yeah, so it's not calibrated to the regular Duratecs? Only the SVTs?

SVTCuervo... JUST REMEMBER TO ASK IF THIS IS CALIBRATED. Cuz it seems like everyone(including myself) only wants it if it is calibrated, one way or another!

Thanx

Well I want it calibrated to non-SVT Duratec's, that's what I have.

You can count me in as long as it's custom and it will be tuned to these parameters......

*Vehicle production date
*Air filter or intake type/assembly
*Serial number from your stock MAF electronics module
*List of engine power modifications (e.g., chips, pulleys, headers, etc.)

Thanks, Matt.

1. 97CS
2. Speed Demon
3. My SVT
4. JSUMoose1489
5. obicanobi0
6. SVTMike
7. Skeletor
8. Svt&GiXxEr_DrVr
9. AirKnight
10. hunddog
11. ATL-SVT(maybe)
12. HoosierContour
13. Baby SHO
14. slvr98svt
15. darkside
16. FlechaAutoSports
17. Cook98SVTC

yeah, I'd be in if it's tuned to me. . .or my car, you know what I mean. . .

Originally posted by Cook98SVTC:
You can count me in as long as it's custom and it will be tuned to these parameters......
*Vehicle production date
*Air filter or intake type/assembly
*Serial number from your stock MAF electronics module
*List of engine power modifications (e.g., chips, pulleys, headers, etc.)

Some of you folks just don't understand! (I just picked this post as a good example)

Each Meter is flow bench calibrated after assembly. There is no other way to get a reliable meter otherwise. So yes, of course, the MAF is calibrated!

However there is NO such thing as calibrating it for mods! Just for function.

The meter is put in a flow bench and "hand" calibrated so to speak actual flow vs rated bench flow using a preset "base table".

The only factors that affect this calibration are induction type (NA or FI), filter type (airbox or conical), and injector size in correlation to stock injectors. (I.E. How it "fools" the PCM & allows injector swapping)
The engine size (potential CFM draw) is used to base the window of MAF operation.

Each MAF comes with a flow data sheet that charts actual flow vs bench rated flow and at what specific voltage each occurs.

The smallest "base table" Pro-M offers is for 19lb Ford injectors!
Nowhere on their site does it list nor have I ever heard of the MAF's being calibrated for smaller injectors then 19lbs.

For instance the stock 00 SVT MAF's usuable range of operations is 7kg/hr (.5v) to 645kg/hr (4.75v)

The 19lb Pro-M has a useable range of 10kg/hr to 840kg/hr (same voltages - the voltage range is controlled by the PCM's programming)

For those wanting a conversion - 1 CFM = 2.058 KG/HR

So we do need 19lb injectors, or are those just the recommended? Duratecs have stock 17lb I believe.

I think these are only good for 19lb injectors but I'm not sure if custom calibration (17lb)is included in this price.

the joys of svt life.

eric

Originally posted by DemonSVT:
Some of you folks just don't understand! (I just picked this post as a good example)

The only factors that affect this calibration are induction type (NA or FI), filter type (airbox or conical), and injector size in correlation to stock injectors. (I.E. How it "fools" the PCM & allows injector swapping)
The engine size (potential CFM draw) is used to base the window of MAF operation.

The smallest "base table" Pro-M offers is for 19lb Ford injectors!
Nowhere on their site does it list nor have I ever heard of the MAF's being calibrated for smaller injectors then 19lbs.

Just thought I would point that out!

Hey guys the Guy at at Pro-Flow Said the $147 pirce will include calibration for all size injectors and the MAF can be customized for ANY Contour Duratec

Even if your Contour is Supercharge they have a MAF for you.

We can start ordering them as soon as every one is ready.

IF your ready email Pro-Flow at dfron@pro-flow.com
In the subject area you need to put "CEG Group Buy"

The sooner people start ordering the sooner he ships.

Thanks

Quote:

So we do need 19lb injectors, or are those just the recommended? Duratecs have stock 17lb I believe.

Quote:

I think these are only good for 19lb injectors but I'm not sure if custom calibration (17lb)is included in this price.

That's EXACTLY what I have posted now TWICE!

19lb injectors ARE REQUIRED!

There is NO CALIBRATION for 17lb injectors! (I even just checked their site again)

How simply can I put it!

Wow I just dropped in to make sure everyone knew about this and it turns into all this. sigh...

Originally posted by SVTCuervo:
Hey guys the Guy at at Pro-Flow Said the $147 pirce will include calibration for all size injectors and the MAF can be customized for ANY Contour Duratec Even if your Contour is Supercharge they have a MAF for you.

We can start ordering them as soon as every one is ready.

IF your ready email Pro-Flow at dfron@pro-flow.com
In the subject area you need to put "CEG Group Buy"

The sooner people start ordering the sooner he ships.

Thanks

This should answer all questions, meaning all injectors can be calibrated so you 17lbers come on in!

eric

Originally posted by SVTCuervo:
We can start ordering them as soon as every one is ready.

IF your ready email Pro-Flow at dfron@pro-flow.com
In the subject area you need to put "CEG Group Buy"

The sooner people start ordering the sooner he ships.

I can't order anything until May at the absolute earliest. If you guys have to get it earlier, don't wait for me. I'm not going to hold everybody back, but I can't get in any earlier. So if you need to get it going before May, just go without me. If not, then I'll be in.

If we were smart, we would get a non-flanged Pro-M 75 MAF. That way we can get a larger filter in there and we could sell our MAF adaptors to others.

BTW, I emailed Pro-M my info .

So, where can I get some 19lb injectors?

I just did this mod. I do like it, but I will warn you along with many others on here, they often don't get their bench calibration right the first time. My first one left me running rich and I had to send it back. This one seems okay after a few hours of driving.

DemonSVT, would appreciate your opinion on this.
My first unit had this data:
Set point 650, actual 645.2, set point 450, actual 451.9, set point 200, actual 199.9.
Second unit:
Set point 650, actual 632.1, set point 450, actual 454.4, set point 200, actual 199.3.
(I only gave some data points to keep this short)

I guess I'm wondering why the first unit was reporting a higher flow than the second at the top end but was also reporting a lower flow at the mid range, then higher again at the low end. Is this a quality control issue? I have a leaner mix in the mid-RPMs now but a richer mix in the high end and low end. Am I reading it right?

Brian Dors
99 SVT

Cool!

Thanks, Matt.

I think I am going to try and get in on this also -- after reading 200 posts however I am confused about what information is required-- can someone enlighten me?

I just bought a 2000 svt, has KKM intake, SHM LT headers and full exhaust, stock computer, and supposedly develops a lean code if it idles for a period of time.

I wasn't planning on doing this MOD yet, but this is such a great buy I cannot pass it up. I am defiantely in. I am having a problem with my ISP, so I cannot log in. I will be checking the forum from time to time however.

ezsvt-

all they need are:
-year and model (00 SVT)
-serial number from stock MAF
-stock injectors (yes/no)
-intake type (KKM)

Brian Dors
99 SVT

I just thought about something..... Does the price of $147 include shipping?

Thanks, Matt.

What about shipping up to Canada?

Originally posted by bxd20:
DemonSVT, would appreciate your opinion on this.
My first unit had this data:
Set point 650, actual 645.2, set point 450, actual 451.9, set point 200, actual 199.9.
Second unit:
Set point 650, actual 632.1, set point 450, actual 454.4, set point 200, actual 199.3.
(I only gave some data points to keep this short)

Actually the second MAF looks to be calibrated to make the engine run leaner up top, richer in the middle, and the same at lower rpm.
Well at least it appears to be as you only gave half the data required. You did not post any voltage levels for that flow data! Also you don't say if that was from the Meter's function chart or it's calibration chart.

The lower the actual/calibrated flow per the same voltage level the less fuel the PCM commands.

In order to get a real reading on how your MAF was calibrated you would need to post both bench, actual, and voltage and need to post both charts.

There are actually two different information charts on the flow data sheet.
#1 is actual flow vs rated flow.
#2 is rated flow vs calibrated flow.
Both are very important.

For instance my Pro-M's transfer function reads at ~4.7v an actual flow of 847 kg/hr at a 850 kg/hr bench rating. (VERY accurate & efficient - 99.7%) This is the least accurate of any of the useable data points too!

Now the calibration for my Pro-M (which is based off the stock MAF transfer function in the PCM) reads at ~4.7v an calculated flow of 789.4 kg/hr at a 847 kg/hr actual rating. In other words at that specific MAF voltage it is leaning out the mixture vs actual flow about 6.8%.
This is were you make the bulk of your power gains from this mod. It's also why the calibration being off even a hair is such a problem!

This calibration can be and normally is different through the entire MAF voltage range.

If brief my MAF is calibrated through the useable range at -3.1%, -3.7% -5% -6.4% -7.6% -6.8%

Those don't really corelate directly to rpm but a very rough translation would be a 2000 to 8000rpm range.

Well the 147 does not include shipping. The shipping cost will be form $3-$7. I called him this morning and he said that The price of $147 will include calibration of ANY SIZE INJECTORS. I'll call him again when I get home and will have his quote for ya'll to see. He said he can send them out as soon as we have at least 10 people email him.

1. 97CS
2. Speed Demon
3. My SVT
4. JSUMoose1489
5. obicanobi0
6. SVTMike
7. Skeletor
8. Svt&GiXxEr_DrVr
9. AirKnight
10. hunddog
11. ATL-SVT(maybe)
12. HoosierContour
13. Baby SHO
14. slvr98svt
15. darkside
16. FlechaAutoSports
17. Cook98SVTC
18. ssmumich00
19. ezsvt
20. RodneyBur

I'm still ridin' the fence here, I really want it, but I'm going on vacation this week and it'll cut into my spending money. I'll post whether or not I'm in or out tomorrow.

FlechaAutoSports = emailed

I sent Pro-flow my email today

Just sent them an email.

I noticed there are several numbers on my stock MAF. Which one is the serial number that they need?

EABCDF
>PBT-GF30<
F6DF-12B579-EA
9M02-2
9363026

Those were the numbers represented on the MAF.

This is directly from an email that Pro-Flow sent me:

((((Per our conversation if your group purchases 20 or more mass air meters the cost will be $147 plus shipping and handling ranging from $3 to 8$ for FEDEX ground. We will keep the group buy open for 14 days. Have the members of the group email orders to me with their name, address, phone
number, model year and build date, engine size, injector size, and whatever is directly in front of the mass air meter i.e. conical filter, stk airbox. I also need a credit card number and exp date and name that appears on the
card (this will remain confidential). Customers can also leave instructions for me to call them if they do not want to send their credit card info via email. If members do not want to email orders they can phone them in to me. Meters will not ship until I see at least 10 to 15 orders so I can be sure to get the 20 orders for the group rate.))))))

Lets get this goin

The email is: dfron@pro-flow.com

This GB will end on March 31. But I want my MAF sooner than that so lets get those orders in.

And for your enjoyment:

E-mail is sent.

BTW, are the bolt pattern different for this 75mm MAF? I know that Ford MAF's uses different bolt patterns for different size MAF's. Can you use this on the stock MAF adapter or do you need to get a new one too?

I believe the stock one can be used because that is one of the things you have to state when you order the MAF. You have to state if you have an aftermarket intake or a stock air box. I'll call him tommorow morning and ask him your questions. Thanks

Do you know if we can get a non-flanged version? This way a large K&N can be attached easily, like ohhh 9" long one.

I believe we can but I have to ask him for sure. I'll post the answers to your questions tommorow after I get in touch with him. Thanks

Emailed early today,

Just e-mailed Pro-Flow my vehicle and payment information!!

Alrighty, I just sent in my information. I'm in too beeeyotches! How many is that now???

so by my count here's the list of people who've ordered so far....

1-HoosierContour
2-FlechaAutoSports
3-BabySHO
4-SVTMike
5-97CS
6-KnuKonceptz
7-ATL-SVT

come on fellas lets finish this thing off.

Pro-Flow sent me an e-mail stating that they had 10 orders already and the meters will start shipping early next week.

Email sent

I sent my email a couple of days ago actually...I put my phone number on it.

I just got off the phone with Pro-M. I talked to the guy in charge of the group buy. He should be emailing everyone. He said he was happy to provide the Pro-M for us. He needs to get CC number for at least 20 people. He will hold them until then in his "box". All meters will be custom calibrated and will work for an SE like me. Shipping of the product next week, GB open until the end of the month.

Get those CC numbers to him, thanks.

Payed...

1-HoosierContour
2-FlechaAutoSports
3-BabySHO
4-SVTMike
5-97CS
6-KnuKonceptz
7-ATL-SVT
8-ezsvt
9-Obicanobi0

come on fellas lets finish this thing off.

i think i'm getting in on this but not until next week..have to see how the funds are

Also, you can get a non-flanged one for about $10 less and sell your MAF adaptor if you have one, and get a bigger K&N in there if you wanted to. A win, win, win situation, cheaper, sell the adaptor, and more room.

emailed with CC#, sorry for the hold-up guys, just forgot. I am also going to order the non-flanged model.

eric

could someone explain to me the advantage or disadvantage to the flange vs nonflanged models?? What sort of options do they allow? Right now I have the stock svt airbox with the K&N drop in, but within the next month or so I'm gonna replace with the KKM air intake and the dtec heatshield, with this is mind which is best, the nonflanged?

what is their phone number?

IIRC dtec heatshield requires the flanged model with MAF adaptor.

I just want you all to know, I plan on buying one... like I said I was, but I gotta wait till this Friday (payday) then I can use my debit card and pay cash.

PS-- What is a "dtec heatshield" and where would I get one?

Thanks again, damn I'm glad I found ya'all!!!

Matt.

The advantage of the non-flanged version is that you can put a larger K&N filter on your car because with it flanged you will be really close to hitting the fender. On my car right now I have a 9" K&N and it is about 1/2" off the fender and I know that the flanged Pro-Flow is longer than the stock MAF so I would not be able to use my K&N. But with the non-flanged version, it is signficantly less long because you don't have the flange and the MAF adapter. Also, as Hoosier pointed out, it costs less. An unknown benefit for me.

hey was it 147$ or so for 10 people in this GB you have more then 20 why not give try to get a better price?

The $147 price is final. I wouldn't complain too much because this is $75 dollars off the original price. Thanks

I should be ordering one up in the next couple of days. After that I'll just have to figure out the best size of AFE filter to purchase.

For this price I can't go wrong.

Yeah I want in on this. But as of now I have the stock air box and Im panning on gettng an intake(probably KKM) so which one should I get. Flanged or non-flanged.

Hey I'm sorry but I only got to talk to Pro-Flow this morning and I couldn't get in touch with him this afternoon. Everything seems to be going smoothly and as before the sooner we order ther sooner they ship. Thanks

Originally posted by Nickyd1298SVT:
Yeah I want in on this. But as of now I have the stock air box and Im panning on gettng an intake(probably KKM) so which one should I get. Flanged or non-flanged.

Yeah....the one question I have is that is the diamater of te opening on the non flanged one? I'd need to know this as well to order the appropriate filter

Well If I can get in touch with him tommorow morning, then I'll ask him. Again sorry about the wait.

I emailed him your question, I will post as soon as he answers.

I emailed him also. Emails are everywhere.

I'll call him tommorow Morning.

hopefully the gb is still open till the 31st, i've got to wait till payday next week as i just got back from california and am broke as a joke

didnt think it'd get this far this fast, but you can definately count on me to be in for it.

i'm almost there but.... 1.for those who are far from being car experts (me), how do we know if it is calibrated correctly to peak performance so that we are getting what we paid for and 2.will they re-calibrate it if need be at no cost? i realize these may be dumb questions but hey, if you don't ask, you wont know! thanks.

I have not paid... just emailed them. The car is a hybrid and I want there recommendations. I have not heard back from them though. I have a SC'd 3L with 24lbs injectors (considering larger to remove the FMU) Anyway, once I hear back from them I will gladly call with my card information
I will also resend my first email tonight.

Bill

I'm probably going to order one. Will they recalibrate it later on if needed? Is there a cost for recalibration? I am going to use it on a future 3L hybrid which might use 24# injectors. Does he accept PayPal?

Originally posted by hunddog:
i'm almost there but.... 1.for those who are far from being car experts (me), how do we know if it is calibrated correctly to peak performance so that we are getting what we paid for and 2.will they re-calibrate it if need be at no cost? i realize these may be dumb questions but hey, if you don't ask, you wont know! thanks.

A couple pages back, when you e-mail the guy to order one, you must list your car info, personal info etc. I'm pretty sure they calibrate it based on that info, so it best fits your specific car.

Can I get some specs on this item? Is it the exact same size as our MAF piece?

Also, I assume we're going to have to buy a MAF adaptor seperately. The BAT adaptor is the best? What's the website, or any site that has that piece for sale?

according to Pro-flows email I got(and a few others from the looks of it) 12 have paid at this point. Come on we need 8 more!!!!

I just recieved that same email.. we need to do this, lets go.

eric

Just got off the phone with damian @ pro-flow, and he said the number is 12 people who have either paid or sent the email to be processed. He wants to wait until he has 20 to place the order, or we wont get as good a price (more around the $160 range).

However, looking through this post, Im not sure we have 20 any time soon -- a couple people are on the fence, some cant pay until next friday, etc...I would like to get mine by next week...come on people, just do it and its not too late to get in!!

I agree with you ez, I would like mine by next week too. I'd even pay $160 to get it that way. I'm gonna go post this as TeamNECO, will somebody go post it at the regular NECO forums? I don't have a login there.

I'm gonna get one..just need to find what injector lb I'm using on my 3L...

Someone asked how you know if it's calibrated right. If it's wrong, you'll get a check engine light.

As for re-calibration if you change your intake or injectors at a later point... I was told by SPMotorsports that it is a $30 fee. From experience, expect a 1-1.5 week turnaround for recalibrations.

Two tips: Handle these things gently. And if you're using the original MAF screen, make sure the screen is really nice and flat and that you torque the four nuts evenly, not one at a time. Otherwise the rubber gasket gets pushed out the side sometimes.

Brian Dors
99 SVT

saw this post on TeamNeco...thanks for whoever that was...anyways, i'm pretty interested, just gotta wait for chad (fluidSVT) to answer a few questions for me...also do they take paypal? I didn't see that anywhere...thanks guys

Originally posted by culaslucas:
saw this post on TeamNeco...thanks for whoever that was...anyways, i'm pretty interested, just gotta wait for chad (fluidSVT) to answer a few questions for me...also do they take paypal? I didn't see that anywhere...thanks guys

when you ready email Damien Fron dfron@pro-flow.com
type "CEG Group Buy" on the subject heading
with your vehicle information and payment information

thanks,
eric

Has anyone found our what the inlet size on ont non flanged units? Is it 3.5" like most maf adapters or what size is it?

I need a couple questions answered:
1) Do they accept PayPal?
2) Is the $30 price for REcalibration confirmed?

Thanks

ok where can i get them MAF adapter to put a 9" filter on this. im, gonna try to get in on this too.

Sorry guys but my computer went out at about 8 last night and I haven't been able to post. I called Pro-Flow today and as soon as we get 20 we'll shipp them out. Some of you where asking about a re-calibration fee and he said that no matter what, the fee would be $100 to be recalibrated. This is company regulations and does not change. Again I'm sorry about not gettin gin touch. The price is $147 and that is final. Thanks

Also not to be an ass, but many people are posting un true thing concerning this GB and they are throwing people off. Please I'm hosting this GB and when other people post wrong crap people PM me and B*tch. Thanks

DO THEY ACCEPT PAYPAL??

Hey just sent all my information to him so thats one more.

Hey just emailed the information you told me too mail him.
Did he not want any of the information about exhaust,pulleys,or any mods or the serial number off the stock mass air? Just wondering if any of this would matter of how it runs after being put on.

I'll call him and ask him if he accepts paypal. I know its been ask many times i just have been having trouble with my computer and haven't gotten around to asking him. Thanks

I emailed him today with a few questions. Just waiting for a reply before I order.

I think I'd like a non-flanged one too if that'll save me from buying a MAF adaptor.

I have not heard what diameter the non-flanged one is, I hope it will soon be posted.

I that was part of my email. I will post it when I get an answer.

I'm just waiting for a reply on your flanged question. he should contact me sometime today. Thanks

this is going to SUCK if this doesn't go through (not enough people)

What are you worried about we have plent enough people. Yesterday the count as of 5pm was 13. And There have been many more email in today I believe. We should have no problem. Thanks

k, just want this bad, sorry.
damn this freakin disease

eric

I'm goona be in on the, but we have until the 30th right? I'll probably be paying early next week

im a little confused now about which one i should get (flanged or non). I have a SHO-Shop CAI that I want to put on it, and I believe it already has a MAF adapter on the heatshield with it. Which one should I get?

Thinking about this.. what kind of gains do people usually get? What is the advantage over stock?

My car is basically stock 99 SVT with KKM intake.

Sway me to get one..

If anyone has an aftermarket filter install, it came with a MAF adaptor, so the flanged one is the one to get.

I have just a K&N, no metal adaptor for the stock MAF. No square looking plate. So I want to connect the rubber on the K&N to the pipe on the PRO-M, without the square MAF adaptor with 4 bolts in it.

This is why I have ordered the non-flanged MAF and confused everyone in the process.

Yes...but I'm still looking to find out wha tthe ID is on the non flanged unit. I'd like to go with the non flanged unit since it is shorter and that will give me more options for filters (BIG).

Me too, I am waiting for the outside diameter.

I,am in on this group buy also!

Well guys I've emailed him and he hasn't emailed me back on the paypay or the non Flanged size querstions. I'm gonna try and call him tommorow to finnaly get the answer. sorry

I just sent in my email. Also, this group buy is only for the Chrome Pro-Flow unit, not the Plastic one correct?

Correct only the chrome one for this GB.

Alright good because I wouldn't want to accidently crack the plastic one tightening down the clamp for my filter.

The opening on the Non-Flange MAF is 80mm inside diamerter and 75mm Outside Diameter. And they don't accept paypal sorry. But he will call all who order with credit cards. He said we now have 18 people in this so He will put in the orders today and they should ship Monday or Tuesday of next week. Thanks

Wow! 80mm, wonderful. You are doing a great job SVTCuervo. 75mm outside diameter, good.

lol
the airflow sensor is probably outside too

BTW I will send all my info this week-end with my CC#

thanks SVTCuervo

Heh, is 75mm outside diameter the right size? :-/

So, if I am reading this correctly, we will be able to use a filter with a 3.5" opening (say KKM) on the non flanged units becuase the size of the non-flanged unit is roughly the size os our current MAF adapters?

With the non-flanged one, you have to buy a coupling, so it might not be worth it to you. By the time you have sold the maf adaptor, you will have to turn around and buy the silicone coupling. Plus you lose the rigidity that the MAF adaptor gives you. Its probably break even, unless you want a bigger filter than 9".

Originally posted by HoosierContour:
With the non-flanged one, you have to buy a coupling, so it might not be worth it to you. By the time you have sold the maf adaptor, you will have to turn around and buy the silicone coupling. Plus you lose the rigidity that the MAF adaptor gives you. Its probably break even, unless you want a bigger filter than 9".

For most cases, this wouldn't be true. Most aftermarket filters will slip right over the inlet to the maf. All you would need is the metal clamp to tighten it on, which usually is on the filter already.

I'm assuming that since the maf OD is 80mm then a filter wath at ID slighlty less than 3.5" would slip on over fine...right?

I want in too!!! Tell me where to send the money.

Originally posted by RichSVT:
I want in too!!! Tell me where to send the money.

Originally posted by SVTCuervo:
This is directly from an email that Pro-Flow sent me:

((((Per our conversation if your group purchases 20 or more mass air meters the cost will be $147 plus shipping and handling ranging from $3 to 8$ for FEDEX ground. We will keep the group buy open for 14 days. Have the members of the group email orders to me with their name, address, phone
number, model year and build date, engine size, injector size, and whatever is directly in front of the mass air meter i.e. conical filter, stk airbox. I also need a credit card number and exp date and name that appears on the
card (this will remain confidential). Customers can also leave instructions for me to call them if they do not want to send their credit card info via email. If members do not want to email orders they can phone them in to me. Meters will not ship until I see at least 10 to 15 orders so I can be sure to get the 20 orders for the group rate.))))))

Lets get this goin

The email is: dfron@pro-flow.com

Hope that helps

Well I believe we made our 20 orders today so they should be shipping soon as stated in my earlier post. This is still going on till March 31 and people are still welcome to join in the GB. There is no limit. Thanks

Sweet, I cant wait to get mine!

I'm hoping they ship maybe in one week after all the calibrations are made.. hopefully sooner than that.

eric

Does this mean they will be shipping to him next monday/tuesday or they will be shipping to us next monday/tuesday?

I'm pretty sure I'll be getting in on this. I plan to contact them on Monday to arrange payment.

I'm brand new, but I'm in, sent my e-mail just now.
thanks for saving me $75
more money towards rims!

The MAFs will ship to everyones home dirrectly from the company. I'm not handling any of ya'll MAFs. I believe they will be going by FED-EX so mabey they will be at our houses next Friday(wishing). Thanks everyone who is partisipating in this GB. It is still open till march 31 and we are still accepting people. Thanks

if i get the maf calibrated to 17 lb injectors,can i use my remote optimiser to re-calibrate it to 19 lb injectors when i eventually fit them.

Yes, the guy said you could use an optimzer(SP?) to customize your MAFs if you choose to. Thanks

how much would it be to ship to the uk.

I can't get a hold to him right now, but I'll ask how much shipping to the UK next when I talk to him. Thanks

thanks very much m8.
i will put this group buy on the mondeo forum and st owners forum if that is ok with you guys.

Go ahead if you like. Make sure when they email him though, that they put "CEG Group Buy" in the subject slot. Thanks

It would probably be a good idea to make sure he can ship to the UK before people start placing orders.

Well I never told them I could ship to the UK. But thats a good point. I'll have the answer as soon as I can get in touch with him. Thanks

i'll inform people about the group buy as it hasnt got long left ,and state that uk shipment is not verified yet.
personally im ok because my mum lives in florida ,so if he cant ship direct to me he can ship it to her .and possibly a few more.

I'm interested, please keep us posted as to how we should order and submit payment. Thanks.

Originally posted by Joe Krueger:
I'm interested, please keep us posted as to how we should order and submit payment. Thanks.

Originally posted by SVTCuervo:
This is directly from an email that Pro-Flow sent me:

((((Per our conversation if your group purchases 20 or more mass air meters the cost will be $147 plus shipping and handling ranging from $3 to 8$ for FEDEX ground. We will keep the group buy open for 14 days. Have the members of the group email orders to me with their name, address, phone
number, model year and build date, engine size, injector size, and whatever is directly in front of the mass air meter i.e. conical filter, stk airbox. I also need a credit card number and exp date and name that appears on the
card (this will remain confidential). Customers can also leave instructions for me to call them if they do not want to send their credit card info via email. If members do not want to email orders they can phone them in to me. Meters will not ship until I see at least 10 to 15 orders so I can be sure to get the 20 orders for the group rate.))))))

Lets get this goin

The email is: dfron@pro-flow.com

There ya go

Thanks for helping with the contact information SVTMike.

Hey i email all my information to him mid-week,last week and he has not call me or emailed me. Just wondering if he did get all my information to him but just thought someone esle would know. THANKS ALOT and THANKS for putting this together.

I'll be ordering tomorrow (we'll today)

Should I just go ahead and buy a plastic 75mm MAF adaptor fer $20 from Duratec Performance?

Another Pro-flow MAFF could soon be winging it's way over the water to the UK if all things go to plan.
Excellent group buy mate, I'll be dropping in on here a lot more if that's ok

Well guys I just got an email from Pro-Flow and here is what it said:

((((((((I let the guy from England know what the cost of shipping is(approx $35). Please inform the group that orders are going to be processed today which basically means delivery by the end of the week. Thanks. ))))))))))

We'll have our MAFs by the end of the week

Sweeeeeeeeet, once again though, should I go ahead and buy a plastic MAF adaptor?

Emailed my order.

Thank you SVTCuervo for starting this group buy!

just emailed

my order

Don't get me wrong, I know this is already a badass price, it is, but good lord, by the end of this thing we'll have at LEAST 55, chriminey, just from us, they should lower even more, just for me

The price of $147 will be final even untill we break 100 or so. Besides, he has already shipped them and they should be in by the end of the week

. I can't wait to put mine on along with my new intake and Brullen exhaust

. But with the price, $75 dollars off a $225 dollar item is a damn good price. If I hear any news, then I'll let ya'll know. Thanks

Too bad there cannot be this much enthusiasm for all of the group buys. Thanks Cuervo, for organizing this one!

Well I intend on doing many more GB in the future and soon at that. Thanks for every one who participated in my GBs.

And for all the people who are just reading this, this GB is still open till March 31, so you have a week to get your orders in. Thanks

You should get a group buy going on some kind of ypipe.

Originally posted by SVTMike:
You should get a group buy going on some kind of ypipe.

I was thinking the same thing. Any one have an idea of which one to get. BAT, Performance Fords, SHO Shop.

I'll do it if there is interest.

I just got off the phone with Damien, gave him my CC# and said I should be seeing it Friday. Thanks for the awesome group buy.
-Matt

just ordered mine ,but im waiting for him to email a phone number as i dont want to send debit card details on the net.

I emailed the guy last night but haven't heard anything, I need one shipped to the UK, can anyone help?

Gary

He doesnt immidately reply to the emails. If you emailed him your information, you should be set. I'm guessing he will send out another notice when they actually ship.

As statted before shipping to the UK will be $35 dollars. This Group Buy will end March 31 and the final price is $147. It is still open for anyone who is still interested. Thanks

Ordered mine yesterday.

I got mail from Damien today, as stated, shipping $35, cheers guys!

Gary

I JUST GOT CHARGED $229.04 , WHAT THE F$$K...I'M PISSED

left them a SERIOUS message!!!!

what kind of group buy is this

What size injectors does the 98 svt have? I thought it was 24 but im not sure.

Originally posted by Gary_J_ST200:
I got mail from Damien today, as stated, shipping $35, cheers guys!

Gary

Gary, I took a look at your website -- very cool car! The ST200 looks to be like the SVT here, and the ST24 is like an SE. See, you learn something new everday. I thought that was neat how your dynos were done in scottland too.

Hey guys, this Group Buy is for $147 and I don't know what the problem is with Flecha and how they billed him. This WILL get fixed ASAP. I will talk to Damien as soon as possible and We'll get this fixed. In the mean time please don't blow up on my GB. Thanks

Just got off the phone with Damien at Pro-Flow and everything is fine. Price is $147 and Flecha has been fixed everything is normal. There is no problem. Thanks

Got an email from Damian today saying that mine is OK as well, just have to wait for it to wing it's way over the water.

I'm guessing these already shipped since were supposed to have them by Friday right? Did anyone get a confirmation email from him?

Yes, All the MAFs were calibrated yesterday and shipped today. They will be at our doors by Friday. I think they will come FedEx. Thanks

Got my MAF today! Going to go install it now. Thanks!!!

Can't wait till i get home

After installing it I noticed that it rubbed against the hood. DemonSVT said I can fit it inside the BAT pipe to angle it down so I'm gunna try that later. I drove to work so far and it felt great, no CEL's yet *crosses fingers*, so hopefully its calibrated properly. Definately a worth while mod IMO, especially at this price.

Ordered mine today.

did you "feel" any gains? I was all about this GB, then I got a bit hesitant because I don't want CEL's feakin' blippin' left, right, center. . .what kind of gains are expected, or felt?

I guess I have 4 more days until I can order, so let me know guys!

Suneil

The buttdyno says 5-10 hp. I really dont know what the exact gains are (Im sure it varies depending on other mods), but you can feel it.

alright, I'm sending the email off, it'll be a good way to round off the intake/ypipe/exhaust work I've already done. . .and I can recalibrate it for a SC or something later. . .$147 is a steal for SURE.

I also got overcharged, what Ya gonna do?!
I'm sure it will all get worked out. I'll
e-mail them. Thanks for the G/B !!!

Didn't get mine yesterday, but it has to come today so I can't wait till I get back home for it to be sitting on my front door. Anyone else got theres?

I ordered mine yesterday morning. He said it shud be shipped out by friday(today). Thank for the GB SVTCuervo.

Mine was sitting on the door step when I came home. O yeah
-Matt

I have sent two emails with no response. Any idea? I did not leave my c.c. material in the email. Thanks for any help.

Got mine today!!!!

evern though they all look the same:

Well got mine yesterday, installed it annnnnd...

it doesn't work right..lol.

My car now jerks at part throttle and sometimes stalls.

I assume it's not calibrated right. Guess I'll let them try to recalibrated one more time before I give up.

Eric

Did you reset the computer after you installed it?

Don't you just unplugged the battery to reset the computer?

You can either unplug the negative cable for a couple minutes or pull the number 4 and 11 fuses (in most cars).

Installed mine today, seems to give better throttle response and beyond that it was hard to test because it was raining pretty hard here. Looks great though. Of note, I did not pull the battery connection-- I would prefer that the car learn from its current position rather than base, because this is a small mod compared to the headers already on the car.

To the guy who is having the bucking and hard starting -- make sure all your connections are intact. I had that problem with my other car on a maf, turned out the MAF connector wires were not firmly pressed in.

Thanks cuervo SVT, great group buy!

LOL...I've taken my engine apart before.. I did all the checks rechecks etc. I have a cold air system which requires me to diconnect and remove the battery to get to my filter. Everything was A1 ok on install, turned on the car and let it idle for 5 minutes. Everything seemed great even at take off then when at part throttle or off throttle my car would jerk. My girlfriend said what the hell is that? Anyways I emailed damien and I'll send it back Monday.

I installed my old MAF and my engine runs great again.

Eric

Does this guy ever get back to people? I sent this guy two e-mails and no response! I am mighty pissed off.

Hey guys you have to understand that he has already taken like over 40 orders for these so be patient.Thanks for everyone who participated in this GB.

P.S. If anyone still wants in the GB ends tommorow. Thanks

Ok but I don't want to miss out on the GB. I sent the e-mail a week ago and I don't want him to get back to me in two days and say sorry you missed the GB because he didn't get back to me.

5 days gone by, still no reply

Gary

Forget it, I am not going to give this guy my money when he can't handle 40 people ordering the same part. Being busy is no excuse for poor customer service.

Hey I haven't talked to him in a couple days so I don't know. But when I do I'll be sure to tell him about this. he will take your orders if your emails are there. I'm sorry for everbodies trouble. Thanks

Originally posted by IL Sean:
Forget it, I am not going to give this guy my money when he can't handle 40 people ordering the same part. Being busy is no excuse for poor customer service.

I thought each one had to be hand calibrated specific to each MAF computer, injectors, intake type..etc. Soooooooooo.... just chill.

If you are having problems, call him. He is a really nice guy and has said good things about those he has talked to on the phone, even the couple of people who were charged wrong. He says he has several email that he needs to respond to. He didn't work this weekend. So he has to catchup with email responses. He doesn't need our money if we are impatient and unruly about it.

He is doing us a favor and he is busy, but will talk to you on the phone. He wants to get all the orders right. We aren't dealing with some "Homey" but a professional businessman that might get behind while fulfilling over 40 orders. He is doing us right, so a little time is well worth it. Its not like a kidney transplant, its a car part, so lets just wait or CALL Damien and he will work with you.

Damien Fron
Pro-M Racing
Technical Sales Rep.
248-399-9223 x310

I was one of the first that emailed him and called my CC number in. Mine is still on the bench waiting for a flow calibration. I am NOT complaining, I am waiting patiently and I am happy that I am saving $80. I can't get to installing it until later in the week anyways. Once again its a car part that nobody needs, but over 40 people wants.

my $.03

I'm PRETTY SURE I agree with Hoosier.

The guy is very nice and gave us a great price. He doesn't BS around since he is doin alot of orders, then just settle . He'll get back to you. Thanks

I have also been very happy with this buy.

Ok ok, sorry just one of serverally Customer Service issues I've had to deal with. I do want the part, I just usually expect a response. I will call him and try to get it that way, I just hope he still does the deal now on the 1st.

Sorry guys, but I ended up having to fix a front wheel bearing and I also needed new brake pads and rotors. So there went the money for the MAF meter.

Matt.

I spoke with Damien, really nice guy and patient to. We are in the process of trying some steps to correct my problem, I really want the pro-flow but if it doesn't work out for me thats ok, I'll just have to return it. Hope it works, really want it to.

Eric

Still waiting for mine.....probably stuck at the border

what the deal?? I'm still waiting for mine too

Just got off the phone with Pro-FLow and he said If you sent him an emai, You will get a reply from him. he has been doing alot of work and he told me the that if you sent him an email he'll get your order out and get in touch with you if needed. Don't feel like you'll be left out, just be a little more patient. Sorry for the wait. Thanks

Has anyone who already installed it really notice any gains..

Thanks,
eric

Hey Cuervo, I just checked and my account hasn't even been charged yet? What is the deal with this guy? Could you please pm me with his phone number, at this point I feel that this deal is getting shadier by the minute. If I get no closure to this today, I am backing out with negative feelings about proflow. I sent my order OVER 2 WEEKS AGO. This is BS

Originally posted by FlechaAutoSports:
Has anyone who already installed it really notice any gains..

Thanks,
eric

Yes.

Yeah I placed my order couple weeks ago too.

just talked to Damien on the phone. Mine was finally sent out yesterday.

mine is gonna be sent out this week.
svtCuervo ,top bloke for sorting this group buy .

I just wanted to say thanks SVTCuervo for all the group buys, it's not easy taking care of all this stuff.

Well he sent me an e-mail telling me that he would try and call me, haven't heard from him yet, but it is a good sign.

he emailed me, told me it was shipping out this week, I think you guys need to calm down and stop spazzing. . .he's a good guy, just BUSY from all this stuff.

I would have no problems if I hadn't been told that it had shipped last tuesday and I would have it by the end of last week. My feeling is don't say it if you can't do it. In business you are only as good as your word.

Yes, I agree 100%. I wouldn't be the least bit upset if I was told that it wouldn't ship until xx-xx-03. However, after ordering last week I was told I should have it by Monday, March 31st, at the latest. It's all about expectations.

-Joe

Well I believe he underestamated the amount of orders and for the first batch at least they took only 2 day from factory to houses(some people only one). After the orders bagan to spew in, I think he held back on some of the calibration so he could do as many as possible. Thanks everyone

Hey thanks for the group buy a love my mass air. And to everybody i was getting so used to my car it was that fast anymore but when i put my mass air on sunday and made the car feel peppy again. Nothing to big but you can feel some.
But once yall get it everybody will be happy. I had no problems from mine. But SVTCervo THANKS ALOT for the group buy.

I just got mine and on the box it says 75mm w/flange 98 contour se 19# c. I dont have an se, I have an svt. I was just wondering if this has happened to anyone else.

Got mine today as well, I will be fitting it tomorrow & I'll keep you posted.
I'm going to need sun glasses when I open the bonnet once I've fitted it as it's going to go really well with my chromed SVT upper inlet manifold.

Pro-flow MAF flow data

Originally posted by Nickyd1298SVT:
I just got mine and on the box it says 75mm w/flange 98 contour se 19# c. I dont have an se, I have an svt. I was just wondering if this has happened to anyone else.

I would call Damien and see just to make sure that he sent you the right one. When I look at my calibration chart it says: 99SVT. I don't know if that just the wrong name of wrong calibration, because yours says 19lb injectors. Don't non SVTs come with 17lb injectors. I'd call him and see if its going to be a problem. Thanks

Well I just got my MAF today and I got charged 250 bucks. I think this might have exceeded my credit limit.. if I get fined for that because of this I won't be a happy camper. Guess I'll have to call damien on monday.

*Edit: OK, now that i've opened it up I notice that the black plastic part where the serial numbering is is cracked... Grrrrr.... so now I get to send it back too

Just installed mine today. Cleared the PCM and after the third time starting my car I have a CEL.. wonder why it didnt come on right away? Looks like I am sending mine back as well.

A CEL? whats that? Are other people having trouble getting these to work properly? And are other people being charged 250 bucks? I thought this was supposed to be a "deal".

Hey everyone. All these problems will have to be brought up to Damian for them to be fixed. He is very helpfull and I assure you he'll get things working for you. Give Damian a call and he'll fix you up. Sorry for the trouble but this is a tricky mod. Thanks

A picture of the crack.. although I'm blaming this on FedEx.

Figures this has to happen after business hours on Friday so I have to wait all weekend.

Well I tried once more installing the pro-flow by twisiting the filter as Damien said, also there is absoutely no obstruction between the filter and pro-flow, I still have the same problems of my car "hicupping", feels like little short bursts of fuel cut.
Anyways I will be sending it back for a full refund.

Eric
by the way everytime I reinstall my stock MAF my car runs great again. I'm just not one to keep dealing with headaches, SVTCUERVO thanks for this group buy, serously, great job.
People need to know the Pro-flow calibrates these not svtcuervo.

Well guys I just put mine and and WOOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOO. Don't let anyone tell you you can't feel this mod. Not huge difference but there is one. WHen I was backing out of my drive way, I ended up flying out of my drive way with my normal pedal push. Thanks

Cool! I had to come into the office today, but my girl called and said it showed up today so as soon as I get home I'm gonna throw it under the hood and go for a spin, I'm stoked!

I realy think when I get my new intake it will even pull a little better.

hey I need to change my signature

I fitted mine this morning, well pleased with it the car does feel a lot more responsive.
Cheers for the group buy SVTCuervo, what's going to be the next one?????

I'm still waiting for mine.

Originally posted by SVT Barge:
A picture of the crack.. although I'm blaming this on FedEx.

Figures this has to happen after business hours on Friday so I have to wait all weekend.

don't blame fedex unless the sensor was packaged correctly,and it was wrapped in bubble wrap or something of the like...the shipper is the one responsible for ensuring that the contents inside the package were packed properly...90% of the claims that we get(yes i do work for fedex)are because the idiot shipper just threw something in a box and sent it on its way.....

Originally posted by Mark T:
I fitted mine this morning, well pleased with it the car does feel a lot more responsive.
Cheers for the group buy SVTCuervo, what's going to be the next one?????

I'm doing the Y-Pipe Group Buy from Brullen. Check it out, its in the Group Buy section. Thanks to everyone who participated in the Group Buy.

Ok. What's the trick here. I got the Pro-M meter with the flange and I'm trying to install it on my car using the stock airbox. Unfortunately it appears that the Pro-M is longer than the stock MAF and I can't get the thing to fit.

How do I install the meter? Are there any tips or tricks to use the meter with the stock airbox? I even had to trim down a plastic tab of the plastic piece that hold the MAF screen in order to get the Pro-M to fit flush against it.
Has anyone else gone through this? Is it possible that they sent the wrong meter?

Originally posted by ghodge:
Ok. What's the trick here. I got the Pro-M meter with the flange and I'm trying to install it on my car using the stock airbox. Unfortunately it appears that the Pro-M is longer than the stock MAF and I can't get the thing to fit.

How do I install the meter? Are there any tips or tricks to use the meter with the stock airbox? I even had to trim down a plastic tab of the plastic piece that hold the MAF screen in order to get the Pro-M to fit flush against it.
Has anyone else gone through this? Is it possible that they sent the wrong meter?

why would you possibly want to use the stock airbox????it makes no sense to free up the airflow with the new meter only to have the restrictive airbox attached to it...get yourself a k&n cone,and make yourself a heatshield...and by all means ditch that airbox...

Chris,

I hadn't intended to do anything to my intake setup until I could do it all at once and then all of a sudden comes along the group buy. I have to get a cone filter, MAF adapter, and build a heatshield still. I was trying to install the MAF and verify that it works well just in case I had to send it back.

If I can't get it installed with the stock setup, I'll have to figure out a way to temporarily mount it just so I know that the meter works with my car. I'll probably need a piece of rubber hose and some sort of coupler.

Just waiting for the lyaer of ice that I got on my car from the storm to melt before I test it out (can't even get eh hood open)

THAT MUST SUCK, its 8:30OM here and still 80 degress outside .

Originally posted by ghodge:
Chris,

I hadn't intended to do anything to my intake setup until I could do it all at once and then all of a sudden comes along the group buy. I have to get a cone filter, MAF adapter, and build a heatshield still. I was trying to install the MAF and verify that it works well just in case I had to send it back.

If I can't get it installed with the stock setup, I'll have to figure out a way to temporarily mount it just so I know that the meter works with my car. I'll probably need a piece of rubber hose and some sort of coupler.

My new intake hasn't come yet and I installed the MAF on my stock air baox with a bigger K&N air filter. It was a little tight but it fit non the less. Took me about 10 minuters to do the whole thing. It can be done and I'll take some pics when I get home. If you need any help just PM me and I'll do. Thank

P.S. This MAF is bad A$$.

Just got my MAF in the mail two days ago. Will install it when it warms up here. Hopefully..... it is calibrated right and will not give a CEL.

Originally posted by --CitatioN10--:
THAT MUST SUCK, its 8:30OM here and still 80 degress outside .

Tell me about it. I had to have my boss bick me up for work today because the ice that froze around my car is higher than the lower egde og my bumper and sideskirts. I's like a f'n rock. Guess my SVT will have stay put till it thaws out

Has anyone else noticed how much smoother the engine is with the MAF? I burned half a tank just testing it out. No CELs and I love it.

Very cool mod, I am happy with my purchase to say the least. The car feels a bit quicker all the way around. It only took me 5-10 minutes too, I was worried that the PCM hadn't had enough time to reset itself during my install. Thanks SVTCuervo for the sweet deal. Now you can change your name to something with a little more style like SVTSauza or SVTPatron

I love mine, the engine is much smoother, even the wife noticed. My setup is perfect.

I have the CTA Intake pipe, Pro-M MAF w/o flange, and a 8.5" K&N filter w/o MAF adaptor. I have gained an inch of clearance with the removal of the MAF adaptor and a 1/2 inch with the CTA pipe. I will post before and after pictures.

does anyone wanna sell me thier stock MAF? iNeed it for a se contour not an svt. If yes drop me a PM or email me at nossvtcontour@aol.com

Damian (sp?) told me (since I got it for my STOCK SVT air box) that I'll have to recalibrate for an open air element. . .the stock air box works in my favor out here because Houston just gets to damn hot in the summers, I probably lose all the benfits of the open air element because of the heat soak. . .ghodge, the accordian tube that connects should be flexible enough to squeeze it in, I haven't got mine yet to know for sure, but I would think people would be able to add this to a stock setup.

Suneil

Suneil,

Maybe I didn't try long enough or hard enough (it was low 50s outside when I was trying) but the accordian tube couldn't compress enough for me to get everything in. It barely compresses enough to get the stock, shorter MAF/airbox assembly in. The problem is that it's tough to get the end of the airbox to go into opening of the plastic silencer in the fender.

I was going to hack my stock airbox up like SVTCuervo did so I called a ford dealership to see how much a replacement would be if I ever wanted to go back to complete stock. Ford wants $267 dollars for the airbox assembly. They don't see the airbox cover separately.

If I can't get everything to go together, I may just pull the silencer out of the fender. That should give me enough clearance.

Anybody else have their Pro-M installed on a completely stock SVT intake setup? Any tips before I pull out the silencer?

My mistake was to rush to get in on the group purchase without doing enough research. Mine is "calibrated" for use with stock airbox when I should have gotten the open element "calibrated" non-flanged meter. It would have made life alot easier.

Originally posted by ghodge:
Suneil,

Maybe I didn't try long enough or hard enough (it was low 50s outside when I was trying) but the accordian tube couldn't compress enough for me to get everything in. It barely compresses enough to get the stock, shorter MAF/airbox assembly in. The problem is that it's tough to get the end of the airbox to go into opening of the plastic silencer in the fender.

I was going to hack my stock airbox up like SVTCuervo did so I called a ford dealership to see how much a replacement would be if I ever wanted to go back to complete stock. Ford wants $267 dollars for the airbox assembly. They don't see the airbox cover separately.

If I can't get everything to go together, I may just pull the silencer out of the fender. That should give me enough clearance.

Anybody else have their Pro-M installed on a completely stock SVT intake setup? Any tips before I pull out the silencer?

My mistake was to rush to get in on the group purchase without doing enough research. Mine is "calibrated" for use with stock airbox when I should have gotten the open element "calibrated" non-flanged meter. It would have made life alot easier.

crap. I fear I'll be in your situation soon enough, and as you, I jumped into this with full gusto thinking it should work with the stock air box, I think they should then either refund or recalibrate accordingly for us since I was TOLD that this works for the stock SVT setup no problem. . .oh well, I'll compress like the best when I get mine, hopefully the accordian tube will be flexible. . .it's tight enough in there as is, when I clean my air filter, I rip up the stock silencer feed all the time. UGH.

I'm thinking right now that I will do whatever it takes to get the meter in place with the stock setup like removing the silencer or maybe even cutting off the tapered end of the airbox. Then when I get my exhaust completed and possibly do the 3L thing, I'll complete the intake setup and get my PCM flashed while on the dyno by the fordchip guys. That way I won't have to worry about the expense of getting the Pro-M "recalibrated"
since I would be getting the car dyno tuned anyway.

Hey guys untill I get my new intake, then I'm gonna have the stock air box on there with a K&N drop in. The only thing I did was take off the lid to the air box. Here is the picture:

If anyone needs help getting the stock one in there, then PM or post and I'll try to help. Thanks

Here is the close up:

YAY! And NO CEL's.

Before:

After:

Just installed my MAF today. No CEL's!! Throttle response feels better, especially at lower rpms. The hardest part was getting the stock accordian tube on the MAF.

I got the MAF on, its great. Man it really bucked for a few start ups, but now runs rock solid. The only bad thing was that when I pulled the stock maf I lost my grip as it came out and it chipped the edge of my fender, oh well just use some touch up paint. Other then that its great, Thanks for the group buy!

Hell YEAH!
Got it, ate dinner, anxiously thought about it, came home, installed it (my god I thought I was having a hernia shoving it into the accordian tube), BARELY squeezed the stock air box back on (had to rip the little funnel lip thing), and VOILA. I'll have to do some serious flexing when I clean the filter, but that'll be in like another 10k miles. . .and yeah, I can feel it

(I'm talking about the butt dyno)

Suneil

Thats great. I would realy like to see if anyone can dyno this.

Ya thanks for the group buy. I got mine last week. I will be dynoing at the end of the month. I am going to try and do a before and after.

Yep... finally got mine on yeaterday too. I think it helped a bit with my power at WOT. Thats where I needed it. I 'l be dynoing later but that will be after a few other mods.

yeah, thanks for the GB, forgot to mention that SVTCuervo, and timeless420 is right, WOT is sick. . .it's tough to describe, you can tell the car is gulping the air in so much faster, it just flies. . .

George and others-

I am running Pro Flow with stock intake. yes it's a tight fit, but I didn't have to remove anything. I did the install on a night in the 30s, so it's doable.

I assume you have mounted the maf adapter on the pro flow on your work bench. You have loosened the clamp that goes over the accordion tube almost to the point the screw will fall out. Now, I did not use any lubricant, but it might help to VERY lightly coat the inside of the accordion tube with WD40. The air box is off the car out of the way. Insert Pro flow into accordion, make sure you are inserting it straight. it should go in quite deep. Besides pushing, I also used a slight twisting motion. You need to put your whole body into this, lean on it as you push into the accordion tube. Once in there, do NOT tighten the clamp yet.
Grab your airbox, and:
1. catch the lower edge of the airbox on the upper edge of the maf adaptor. Do NOT overlap them much, maybe 1".
2. start lowering the fender end of the airbox, keeping the same overap on the other end. one hand should be planted against the maf adaptor, pushing the whole assembly against the engine while the other hand pushes down at the fender end of the air box. during this whole time, you do NOT want the air box to go down into its proper position against the maf adaptor. standing on the side of your car, you are pushing away from your body on the maf adaptor, and down at the fender side of air box.
3. you will be able to get the box into the cold air draw completely, with patience and some vein popping. ;-) at this point, still pushing the maf adaptor away from your body with one hand, push down on the filter with the other hand. it will slide into place.
4. align airbox for clamping, clamp shut.
5. give the accordion tube to pro flow connection a final check for tight fit, tighten clamp completely.
6. plug in and enjoy.

i could probably do a clinic on these, if you got to my area of Ohio, i work in Richfield and live in Parma Hts.

Brian Dors
99 SVT

Brian,

I took the wimpy way out. What I did was to take a hacksaw and cut off most of the end of the airbox that fits into the air silencer mounted in the fender. After doing that I was able to get everything in without too much fuss. The accordion tube provides enough compression to keep the airbox pressed up against the air silencer. I did not include a picture because it looks just like stock when I got done. If you look at the tapered end of the airbox, a fine line should be visible. I hacked off the end section about an 1/8" from that fine line.

I haven't verified that when putting the stock MAF back on that the accordian tube will keep the airbox pressed in the fender mounted air silencer.

To date, no CELs. On my 2000 I ended up having to pull fuses 6 and 11 after looking at my owners manual. Also, I had no fuse 4. I haven't been able to run it hard enough to notice a difference. Darn heavy traffic.

Originally posted by bxd20:
George and others-

I am running Pro Flow with stock intake. yes it's a tight fit, but I didn't have to remove anything. I did the install on a night in the 30s, so it's doable.

I assume you have mounted the maf adapter on the pro flow on your work bench. You have loosened the clamp that goes over the accordion tube almost to the point the screw will fall out. Now, I did not use any lubricant, but it might help to VERY lightly coat the inside of the accordion tube with WD40. The air box is off the car out of the way. Insert Pro flow into accordion, make sure you are inserting it straight. it should go in quite deep. Besides pushing, I also used a slight twisting motion. You need to put your whole body into this, lean on it as you push into the accordion tube. Once in there, do NOT tighten the clamp yet.
Grab your airbox, and:
1. catch the lower edge of the airbox on the upper edge of the maf adaptor. Do NOT overlap them much, maybe 1".
2. start lowering the fender end of the airbox, keeping the same overap on the other end. one hand should be planted against the maf adaptor, pushing the whole assembly against the engine while the other hand pushes down at the fender end of the air box. during this whole time, you do NOT want the air box to go down into its proper position against the maf adaptor. standing on the side of your car, you are pushing away from your body on the maf adaptor, and down at the fender side of air box.
3. you will be able to get the box into the cold air draw completely, with patience and some vein popping. ;-) at this point, still pushing the maf adaptor away from your body with one hand, push down on the filter with the other hand. it will slide into place.
4. align airbox for clamping, clamp shut.
5. give the accordion tube to pro flow connection a final check for tight fit, tighten clamp completely.
6. plug in and enjoy.

i could probably do a clinic on these, if you got to my area of Ohio, i work in Richfield and live in Parma Hts.

Brian Dors
99 SVT

Brian-
That's exactly what I did MINUS the WD40, should've thought of that. . .you HAVE to tighten the clamp once it's all in place. . .good how-to, it'll help, wish I read it before I did mine

Suneil

I got mine today, nice bit of work there!
Has anyone had problems with hunting? I've done about 30 miles in mine since fitting (yes I popped the fuse) and it still hunts for the 750 idle speed, it's even stalled twice.
I do have the anti-moose in place, just wondering if it would help taking it out?
Apart from that, I love it. It pulls lke a train (that's a loco for you guys

)

Any ideas would be appreciated.

Gary

Anyone?

give it some more time man, mine does that and I am currently in the process of recalibration (transit time) with pro-flow, they were very helpful. If you continue to have the hunting idle, you'll more than likely throw a check engine light. That happened to me so I reset the PCM and tried it again. Got another 'CEL' and called for a recalibration. Good luck.

You're probably right, I de-installed the Moose fix this morning, reset ECU again, it still stalls now and again. I'll give it a few days and see how it goes. I'd hate to have to ship it back for a re-cal

Gary

Did anyone get the MAF for a 3L with 24# injectors? I'm planning for a future 3L hybrid, so I got my MAF calibrated for the 24# injectors. I dont see anywhere on the data sheet that it IS calibrated for them.

I am in, I want one

Originally posted by jreat:
I am in, I want one

Couple months late?

Hah, indeed.

I have not been on here in a while and did not see the date. I guess there is no way of getting one?

Let's start another g.b. for the 75 MAF.

Originally posted by tomtoursvt:
Let's start another g.b. for the 75 MAF.

agreed!!!!!!!!!!

I might be in if another one starts up.

IF you guys want me to do it again( I know the guy) then I will. Give me a reply

i'm game! been kickin myself ever since i missed the deadline on the first one.......

Cuervo,
I would be in for the Pro-Flow MAF if you were to offer the GB again

Well I'll give him a call Monday and I'll see if we can get this goin a second time. Thanks

My opinion is go with the non-flanged version during the GB. It costs $10 less, $137 IIRC. I sold my MAF adaptor, we don't need no stinking adaptor.

So you don't need an MAF adapter with this?

Flanged MAF needs a maf adaptor, the normal one.
Non-flanged one needs just the filter.
Its saves 1" of space.

Thank-you SVTCuervo!

I'm in on the group buy!

I am in if you do it again.

SVTCuervo, I said I might be in before if this starts up again, but I checked my finances and it won't be happening. I need tires and struts ($$$) before I get into engine mods. Thanks anyway.

I would def. be in if you did this again> I dont even know how I missed the first gb. OH! I didn't have a computer at the time.

I have seen a few hickups with these ...Im going to run from this GB

Well guys, I'm gonna give him a call tommorow and see what we can do. Then I'll start a new Thread if everything goes well. Thanks

Ok guys I'm starting another Group buy for the 75mm MAF. He couldn't give me a price today, but I'll have all that for ya'll tomorow. Once I get a price and all the info, I'll start a new thread and we'll get this Group Buy goin. Thanks

Get a group buy going for the 6-wire MAF's, not the 4-wire. Tell them you want the MAF that the green SVT has.. I'm sure they'll know who it is.. I've spent like 10 hours there.

Im in definantly!

Yay!!

Originally posted by SVT Barge:
Get a group buy going for the 6-wire MAF's, not the 4-wire. Tell them you want the MAF that the green SVT has.. I'm sure they'll know who it is.. I've spent like 10 hours there.

What's the difference? Will it work on my SE?

sorry about the wait guys, but the owner is just getting back form a trip and I'm still waiting for answers. But I'll be sure to post as soon as i get all the info. Thanks

The 6 wire MAF has the filament across the whole tube. The 4 wire has a sampling tube to one side. I was having problems because air was avoiding the sample tube because of the relatively small amount of air out cars use compared to say a v8.

Missed the last gb, and got one anyways. THing is, at start up, the idle fluctuates a little, up and down, but not enough to move the needle on the tacho which always reads at approx 800rpm. Once I drive it a bit it settles down to a steady idle. What is this? Its only since I have fitted the por-flo, is it to do with calibration?

Ronan-
Post your question in the trouble shooting forum, they can answer your question there.

Thanks again for getting the group buy together SVTCuervo

Im in on this GB..... Thanks for all the info

Well guys I've just gotten off the phone with the Pro-Flow guys, and it won't be near what it was the first time

. That first Group Buy was a one time thing, that the company said will not happen again. This time, all MAF's would have to be sent to me and then I'd have to ship them to ya'll. And the prices for the MAF's this time will be much higer. For teh chrome MAF's it will be $196 and for a plastic $164. But I would have to put shipping to my house, then shipping to your houses ontop of that charge

. So I'm not sure if everyone would still be in for one now but If so tell me and I'll see what i can do. Sorry if ya'll were hopping for more, but thats what they have to offer now. Thanks

Can you try pricing from SP, maybe they will work with you better?

Well I'm still trying to talk to Pro-Flow and attempting to get better than what i have. I'll keep on trying. Sorry and I'll keep ya'll updated. THanks

Any word yet?

Well guys, I'm kinda reluctant to reply as I don't have much better new. But if ya'll go for this then lets go. I can get the plastic MAF's for $150 and the Chrome for $175. Those prices are minus shipping charges. If you guys feel this is good for ya'll then please PM me as I may not be giving this thread much attetion. THanks

How much would shipping be?

what advantages does chrome have over plastic? (im defenately gonna get one if this goes qucikly)