I am getting a local shop to make these for us. We will need atleast 15 orders of each pulley to get this going.

P/S pulley lightened and underdriven $70
Alternator pulley lightened and underdriven $55

These pulleys are going to be in anodized blue.

The only thing I am not sure of at this moment is am I going to have to pay taxes on these or not.

I will find out the right belt and include it at whatever the belt costs or give the part number out for people that would like to purchase it themselves.

if u offer them in several colors or unanodized so people can paint them whatever they want, i think it'll help to increase interest. i know i wouldn't want blue.

I can check on that but it will probably increase the cost

What color do you want it to be?

thanks

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Alternator pulley lightened and underdriven $55

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Like I said on Fastcougar.com Im in for one if they are blue. Also how much for all three together?

I would take them unanodized......

duratec or zetec?

MarkusSVT- I think(just gotta confirm with the shop) the color options are going to be Red, Blue and Polished... So I think you would want to go with the polished one?

Kremithefrog- These are for the Duratec's

I would like to purchase both pulleys, polished. One question though, what will shipping be like, since its coming from CAN?

cant afford to get them now. it was simply a friendly suggestion.

Originally posted by 96BlackSE:

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I can check on that but it will probably increase the cost

What color do you want it to be?

thanks

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How about "clear" anodized?

Count me in for both (P/S and Alternator)

Polished (probably same color as clear anodized!)

will be pay in can, so give PM me the exact amount.

Simon-Pierre

Chris Arslanyan - I don't think shipping will that much. But I will check and let you know soon

dion - By polished I meant clear anodized

Originally posted by hmouta:

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if u offer them in several colors or unanodized so people can paint them whatever they want, i think it'll help to increase interest. i know i wouldn't want blue.

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Why?

Folks. The alternator on the Duratec is in a location that will NEVER be seen by anyone.


Unless you plan on leaving your car up on jack stands with the driver side wheel removed and both splash guards taken off...

Color is irrelevant!

i'm pretty interested but like can you do some dyno pulls on some prototypes? I'd be in fo sho if you had some proven gains

Originally posted by DemonSVT:

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Originally posted by hmouta:

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if u offer them in several colors or unanodized so people can paint them whatever they want, i think it'll help to increase interest. i know i wouldn't want blue.

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Why?

Folks. The alternator on the Duratec is in a location that will NEVER be seen by anyone.


Unless you plan on leaving your car up on jack stands with the driver side wheel removed and both splash guards taken off...

Color is irrelevant!

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Don't forget the P/S pulley!

I if these are Canadian prices count me in. I live in oshawa. so can i get a full price For both.

You KNOW I'm in for this Nima!!! I hope those are CDN prices too...

SpeedDemon- Unfortunetly I am not gonna be able to do any dyno runs on the prototype. There is not gonna be a huge power increase but realisticly I would expect something around 2-4hp and an improvement in the revebility.

Jeff, the prices are in US dollars
Here is the Canadian pricing;
Alternator $85 CAD
P/S $110 CAD

thanks for the response... $125 USD is not bad at all.... how much can we expect for cross border shipping? Also i know the alt is a major pain the back, how hard will it be to put a pulley on there, and the ps ?

How much does it cost to have these installed?

in for the blue set of pulleys...they'll go nicely on the 3.0

i bought front rotors n pads from ctamotorsports in canadia and i think shipping was like 30 bucks...so these pulleys shouldn't cost much at all to ship

i would expect to pay somewhere around 100 bucks or so for install ...my belts cost me 77.00

$125 plus shipping. That's pretty darn good! Just say when.
Are you going to include any install tips?
I'll have to remind myself to read the GB forum from now on.

I think I want these.

Can I still use my DMD?

Yup you can still your DMD

I'm down

Derk2000 - I'll try to get some install tips when its all ready

common guys 5 more people and its ready to go, I am waiting to get Approved on the NECO GB section to be able to post

Count me in for 1 blue alternator pulley. Also wondering the diameter of the p/s pulley. Thanks.

The p/s pulley would be around 13% bigger, any bigger it would touch the motor mount

What's the % on the Alt pulley?

20% on alternator

My question is does this sacrific engine life? Cuz I've heard the U/D pulleys are a bad idea...I have a DMD! I car about performance that doesn't hurt my girl!

Originally posted by 96BlackSE:

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Yup you can still your DMD

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Uhmmmm....

yeah...these are for the alternator and the power steering pump. shouldn't affect engine life. somebody please correct me if I am wrong.

Originally posted by mcgainer:

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Originally posted by 96BlackSE:

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Yup you can still your DMD

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Uhmmmm....

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This is not a crank pulley

Its a p/s and alternator pulley which has nothing to do with your crank pulley

Originally posted by Contouring:

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My question is does this sacrific engine life? Cuz I've heard the U/D pulleys are a bad idea...I have a DMD! I car about performance that doesn't hurt my girl!

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Its doesn't sacrifice engine life
It actually longens your alternator and p/s life

Here you can read up on it

http://www.contour.org/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=perf&Number=75483&page=1&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=14&fpart=1

Well if it "longens" accesory life, I guess I would be in...

I am worried about the 20% underdrive on the alt, for the stereo wielding people...anyone know how many amps are produced by the alt at idle? I'd like to see what 20% less would be, and check for amperage requirements (can anyone say rear defroster?)

A very cool idea though, I have been wanting these for a while...

Originally posted by mangler:

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1. I am worried about the 20% underdrive on the alt, for the stereo wielding people...
2. anyone know how many amps are produced by the alt at idle? I'd like to see what 20% less would be, and check for amperage requirements (can anyone say rear defroster?)

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1. Yes at idle with your noise pollution thumping it may pose a problem.
However with all the extra weight of the equipment & subsequent tremendous strain on the electrical system maybe you shouldn't be worried about underdriving your alternator for performance or alternator longevity in the first place.
I would not recommend one to anyone with a large stereo setup. For that matter I would also recommend you upgrade a few or your current components as well (battery, alternator, extra capacitors, etc) You know; the normal stuff needed on any vehicle pushing any serious wattage. Not doing so is just inviting component failure.

2. It doesn't work that way. 20% slower revolutions does not equate to 20% less amperage output.
The stock alternator puts out 50-70amps at idle. (load dependant of course) At ~2000 rpm it can exceed 100amps.
It's rated at 140amps, but definitely can exceed that under heavy load and enough rpm to sustain it. (10-20% safety factor) Regularly exceeding it's "rated" amperage with shorten it's life. (why large stereos eat alternators & batteries)

With this pulley the only time you may notice a draw on your electrical system is at idle with everything running. The battery plays a large factor in this as well since it is used as a backup supply when the demand exceeds the alternator's output.

Personally I never saw a problem with a ~13% UD alternator pulley and the stock battery. With the dyna-batt (40% the reserve time) I have seen the headlights dim. However only when the idle drops below 700rpm (basically when coming to a stop with the clutch in) & I have everything (head & driving lights, radio, blower, brake lights, etc) running. With the driving lights & blower off it never does it. Above 700rpm (or at idle) it never does it regardless.

I'm in for a P/S pulley for sure.

BTW, check your PM's Nima, it is regarding a PM you had sent to me earlier!

Thanks,

Any updates? I'm itchin' to mod!

Its gonna be very soon
The question marks are for the people who didn't say which color. If there is anything else wrong with the list let me know
Just need 1-2 more people to get this going!

CATerina - Alt
MarkusSVT - Alt, p/s, polished
Chris Arslanyan - Alt, p/s, polished
SPGVT - Alt, p/s, polished
CougarDemon - Alt, p/s, polished
My SVT - Alt, p/s ??
Alquistador Alt, p/s ??
J-Lab Alt, P/s ??
gdub520 Alt, P/s blue
Derk2000 Alt,P/s
nyceboi Alt, P/s
Baby SHO Alt polished
mangler Alt, P/S ??
Krafty P/S ??

Total 13 Alt 12 P/S

Polished is fine by me.

if it makes no difference i'll go with the blue...but if it makes for extra work or any other kind of problem i will take the polished alt/ps pulleys along with the rest of the group

any update avail???

Just waiting for 1 more person to get on this deal

With me included we have a total of 14 on the p/s pulleys

Just 1 more and I am gonna start collecting payments to get the shop to do it

Originally posted by 96BlackSE:

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Just waiting for 1 more person to get on this deal

With me included we have a total of 14 on the p/s pulleys

Just 1 more and I am gonna start collecting payments to get the shop to do it

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If I get the P/S pulley, will that get it started? If so, I want a P/S pulley "polished". What's the turn around time? I need this ASAP.....my car goes in at the first of the year for a 3.0 hybrid conversion.

I'll try to go in tommorow and ask them about it, but it won't be until tommorow afternoon when my exam is over

They told me before that it would take 2 weeks to make all of them. (I'll just double check and try to get a real day since the holidays just got in this)

The other thing is I miss counted the list there was only 13 for p/s pulleys including me, if you want 1 too it would be 14 people, I am willing to pay for one more to get this started and hopefully someone would be willing to buy it from me later on


My brain isn't working properly right now if anything I wrote doesn't make sense please excuse me

Originally posted by 96BlackSE:

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I'll try to go in tommorow and ask them about it, but it won't be until tommorow afternoon when my exam is over

They told me before that it would take 2 weeks to make all of them. (I'll just double check and try to get a real day since the holidays just got in this)

The other thing is I miss counted the list there was only 13 for p/s pulleys including me, if you want 1 too it would be 14 people, I am willing to pay for one more to get this started and hopefully someone would be willing to buy it from me later on


My brain isn't working properly right now if anything I wrote doesn't make sense please excuse me

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My brain isn't working either, I don't need the P/S pulley, I need the ALT pulley...sorry...I have a SHOshop P/S pulley already.

So, how many more pieces need to be spoken for before this can get off the ground? I want to change out my generator and put the new pulley on at the same time. Less pain, if done once. Also, what is the turnaround time, after we have all fully paid?

Well, we have 16 for Alternator and we just need 1 more person for the P/S

I just tried contacting the shop and they were close (couldn't get out of my exam early on friday either)
What they told me before was it would take 2 weeks to make them all. So when I receive all the payments they will start (if they are not closed because of holidays of course)

Does anyone know if I send money to my bank account through paypal do I get charged in any way?

Anyways, sorry about not being able to update this often (damn exams, but they are now over WOHOOO)
If we can't get one more person I'll try to put in the money for it to get it going

Here is the updated list again,

Let me know if I made any mistakes on it

CATerina - Alt
MarkusSVT - Alt, p/s, polished ??
Chris Arslanyan - Alt, p/s, polished
SPGVT - Alt, p/s, polished
CougarDemon - Alt, p/s, polished
My SVT - Alt, p/s ??
Alquistador Alt, p/s ??
J-Lab Alt,p/s ??
gdub520 Alt, P/s blue
Derk2000 Alt,P/s
nyceboi Alt, P/s
Baby SHO Alt polished
mangler Alt, P/S ??
Krafty P/S polished
Skeletor Alt, P/s blue
dion Alt

myself alt, p/s

TOTAL
16 Alt 14 p/s

Originally posted by 96BlackSE:

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Well, we have 16 for Alternator and we just need 1 more person for the P/S

I just tried contacting the shop and they were close (couldn't get out of my exam early on friday either)
What they told me before was it would take 2 weeks to make them all. So when I receive all the payments they will start (if they are not closed because of holidays of course)

Does anyone know if I send money to my bank account through paypal do I get charged in any way?

Anyways, sorry about not being able to update this often (damn exams, but they are now over WOHOOO)
If we can't get one more person I'll try to put in the money for it to get it going

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Yes there is a fee if you upgrade your PayPal service. I have since I buy and sell lots and use PP to fund/receive payment. The fee isn't too bad, something like 1-3%, but it still takes away from the profit. So, if we pay you via PayPal, you have to account for the fees, so you don't get stuck!

The sooner, the better!

Just an update,
I went to the shop to talk today and they were closed today too (lazy people ) I will go on wednesday but I suspect they are gonna be closed,

I'll try to get all the final details and start collecting the money hopefully by friday

thanks

Woo-hoo! Just in time for me to install the new alternator.

yup i'd like this to get movin too...get this payment outta the way so i can beg borrow and deal for the duckets to get the msds headers....

i am good for both polished.......

I would like to get in on this towards the end of January. Sorry I havn't read through the whole post. When I'm back from vacation I'll look at it more. I'm still in for both.

I just got all the info for this GB I have some good news and some bad news

The bad news is that we have to pay tax on these things The good news is I have a diplomat friend which only pays 8% tax instead of the 15% So I can get him to show his card and get it at 8% tax.

If everyone is still willing to go through with this I got the shipping costs figured out I checked with FedEx and the MailBoxes etc near me told me they only do next day air . So I went to CanadaPost and it would cost right about $10-$11's and I am thinking the box and things to put inside for them to reach in 1 piece should cost about $2... (this is for the people in the states) The people that are in Canada would have to give me their postal code for an exact price (your more than welcome if you want to come and pick it up)

I was told today that the pullies will be made in a maximum of 2 weeks from the day that I place the order, and to keep the costs down it will be made in only 1 color which is going to be clear anodized (same as polished) since more people want it that way

You can send a money order or paypal me at rpm15500@hotmail.com When making a payment please include your name, address and what it is for and your nickname on CEG.

Thanks!

Ok, for the slow people like me (still working off the New Year's hangover...) How much do we send you for both the PS & alt pulleys?

Originally posted by Shaggy:

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Ok, for the slow people like me (still working off the New Year's hangover...) How much do we send you for both the PS & alt pulleys?

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Still hungover???
Well send me $1000.00 and i'll get the parts for ya

IM me punkazz