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Posted By: SvtEdwardo420 Carbon Fiber Wide body kit - 12/04/05 02:23 PM
I think that we should try and find someone to make a carbon fiber wide body kit for the tours, if not wide body some carbon fiber fenders would be pretty cool. who would be interested and would anybody know who would be up for the task
Posted By: 96 M edition Re: Carbon Fiber Wide body kit - 12/04/05 02:26 PM
i'd be down for anytype of widebody,or something..fenders,ahhh, not so much,imho
Posted By: MapOfTaziFoSho Re: Carbon Fiber Wide body kit - 12/04/05 05:02 PM
This thread is worthless.

Look at the Norcal hood GB...look at the old body kit GB...I can't even remember the original name of the kit. It was terrible. Don't even bother man. You wanna do something, get the $ and do it yourself because there won't be more than 2-3 ppl on this board that will want it.
Posted By: SvtEdwardo420 Re: Carbon Fiber Wide body kit - 12/04/05 05:07 PM
your worthless, maybe alot of guys would want them and we could try and get something worked out, just because you dont want it, dosent mean you have to open up your mouth. Thank you
Posted By: MapOfTaziFoSho Re: Carbon Fiber Wide body kit - 12/04/05 05:14 PM
Originally posted by SvtEdwardo420:
your worthless, maybe alot of guys would want them and we could try and get something worked out, just because you dont want it, dosent mean you have to open up your mouth. Thank you




10$ this thread goes NO WHERE! It's not an opinion it is a fact...the previous GB's have ALL failed. The previous widebody kit failed. The only way to do it is to get a custom one off for yourself because you will never get to masses of CEG to come up with the $$ for this.
If you had been around to see the widebody kit fail over the course of 2+ years you wouldn't have even thought of it.
Posted By: 69Boss302_dup1 Re: Carbon Fiber Wide body kit - 12/04/05 05:27 PM
SVTEdwardo,

Take a look at the lessons learned from the Kaotic kit Group Buy.
Posted By: Matt R_dup1 Re: Carbon Fiber Wide body kit - 12/04/05 05:30 PM
Originally posted by MapOfTaziFoShoĆ¢ā??Ā¢:
This thread is worthless.





x1,000,000,000
Posted By: SvtEdwardo420 Re: Carbon Fiber Wide body kit - 12/04/05 06:18 PM
o searched for it , and yea i understand where your coming from but thats 2 years plus, new things could come up. i mean i probally could try to do it myself , ive only screwed with fiberglass , so i would use that and some bondo on a spare fender someone would have laying around, but i also need a heated garage to do it....
Posted By: Steeda. Re: Carbon Fiber Wide body kit - 12/04/05 06:55 PM
I think someone should make some cool Nascar CF spoilers
Posted By: Matt R_dup1 Re: Carbon Fiber Wide body kit - 12/04/05 07:17 PM
Originally posted by SvtEdwardo420:

ive only screwed with fiberglass




Ya ok, go back to screwing fiberglass, and give up.
Posted By: The Digital Slacker Re: Carbon Fiber Wide body kit - 12/04/05 07:21 PM
Originally posted by Matt R:
Originally posted by SvtEdwardo420:

ive only screwed with fiberglass




Ya ok, go back to screwing fiberglass, and give up.




Matt, chill out dude. Seriously, if he wants to try and get this done... great! I doubt he knows what is involved to make these, but if he wants to try I am all for it. We should be trying to get MORE aftermarket for the 'tour not LESS. I think you made your point already, the last GB failed real bad, but there is no reason to totally crap on this thread because the last one (which was totally unrelated to him) failed.

My 2 cents.

(good luck btw )
Posted By: posthuman63t Re: Carbon Fiber Wide body kit - 12/04/05 07:34 PM
First off, good luck with getting this accomplished. Second, if you did somehow find a company willing to take the time to make a wide body kit for the contour...do you honestly think people are going to be able to afford it? They aren't like a $200 bolt-on. And add to that...out of carbon fiber? The kit alone would cost more than the KBB value of your car.
Posted By: The Five-Oh! Re: Carbon Fiber Wide body kit - 12/04/05 07:43 PM
Take into thought some figures:

The CF trunklids cost about $2000 to develop for us and sell about $600 each, and a trunklid is a relativly smooth plain suface with few curves and contours to it.

A body kit will have the sideskirts, front bumper, and rear bumper if just a basic kit is made and not the wide body you're thinking of, the design, even if simple would cost so much money to develope and then the cost of the kit would easily be in the thousands of dollars.

Although a cool idea i don't see if happening unless everyone suddenly has thousands of dollars to invest towards this.
Posted By: Matt R_dup1 Re: Carbon Fiber Wide body kit - 12/04/05 07:45 PM
I know, I know, just messing around. Good luck getting it completed.
Posted By: RandyCSVT Re: Carbon Fiber Wide body kit - 12/04/05 08:08 PM
ok I will be positive and not jump on this idea bashing bandwagon. I believe everything is worth a shot. I would be interested in the carbon fiber fenders, but will not give you any money up front. A carbon fiber trunk that didnt look like it came off a nascar would be great too. Get some pictures or this thread will go nowhere. More details are needed
Posted By: Guitarman19853 Re: Carbon Fiber Wide body kit - 12/04/05 09:22 PM
a trunk with a built in spoiler kinda like the "nascar" one but less than half the height would be cool. kinda like the small M3 lip spoiler that at least one CEG member has:

mystiquevltwin's ride:


subtle but good looking... maybe a bit taller and spanning the whole trunk.

widebody would be cool, but the problem i see would lie in the sideskirts. the fenders could be flared "easily" and bumpers could be made... but since our cars side skirts are virtually nothing, making them flare out wider and still look good probably isnt going to happen. look at the VW Golf R32 looking body kit that some have... the side skirts are blocky and terrible looking IMO on those.

feel free to take ideas from my chop of my SVT with the Hamann kit off of the Ferrari F430:


original thread with the full size chop image

I can play around with photoshop later this week and see if i can come up with anything that looks good...

Honestly, i am unable to afford to participate in such an undertaking, but i'm willing to help if i can to try and further the aftermarket for these wonderful cars
Posted By: SvtEdwardo420 Re: Carbon Fiber Wide body kit - 12/04/05 10:08 PM
First off, Lay off the nascar spoiler, i know many people who have seen the car in person and say it looks great , now dont get me wrong not every one can like everything, but just give it up. Now I do understand every ones concerns about the kit and how much money it will take to first devlop the kit then sell the kit, so maybe this isnt the way to go , even fenders for the car that arent wide, just plain old stock that are carbon fiber, or fiberglass painted the color of your car would be nice for weight issues. does anyone have a spare fender, from one of there tours that i could buy and try this out, like i said ive fiberglassed somethings and im down to give it a try.
Posted By: MapOfTaziFoSho Re: Carbon Fiber Wide body kit - 12/04/05 11:19 PM
Originally posted by SvtEdwardo420:
First off, Lay off the nascar spoiler, i know many people who have seen the car in person and say it looks great , now dont get me wrong not every one can like everything, but just give it up. Now I do understand every ones concerns about the kit and how much money it will take to first devlop the kit then sell the kit, so maybe this isnt the way to go , even fenders for the car that arent wide, just plain old stock that are carbon fiber, or fiberglass painted the color of your car would be nice for weight issues. does anyone have a spare fender, from one of there tours that i could buy and try this out, like i said ive fiberglassed somethings and im down to give it a try.




You are talking out of your azz man. I have learned some tai kwan do, but that doesn't mean that I can fight or am willing to fight a master.
Posted By: Apu Nahasapeemapetil Re: Carbon Fiber Wide body kit - 12/05/05 12:07 AM
Originally posted by MapOfTaziFoShoĆ¢ā??Ā¢:
Originally posted by SvtEdwardo420:
First off, Lay off the nascar spoiler, i know many people who have seen the car in person and say it looks great , now dont get me wrong not every one can like everything, but just give it up. Now I do understand every ones concerns about the kit and how much money it will take to first devlop the kit then sell the kit, so maybe this isnt the way to go , even fenders for the car that arent wide, just plain old stock that are carbon fiber, or fiberglass painted the color of your car would be nice for weight issues. does anyone have a spare fender, from one of there tours that i could buy and try this out, like i said ive fiberglassed somethings and im down to give it a try.




You are talking out of your azz man. I have learned some tai kwan do, but that doesn't mean that I can fight or am willing to fight a master.




If you don't have anything useful to contribute you should just sit back and zip it instead of bashing him. He's willing to give it a shot and all you do is talk trash. If he fails, he'll be learning something useful. If he is successful, who knows what innovative ideas or products he may come up with. Props to SvtEdwardo420 for his determination and good luck in his endeavors.
Posted By: posthuman63t Re: Carbon Fiber Wide body kit - 12/05/05 01:24 AM
Originally posted by SvtEdwardo420:
First off, Lay off the nascar spoiler, i know many people who have seen the car in person and say it looks great , now dont get me wrong not every one can like everything, but just give it up. Now I do understand every ones concerns about the kit and how much money it will take to first devlop the kit then sell the kit, so maybe this isnt the way to go , even fenders for the car that arent wide, just plain old stock that are carbon fiber, or fiberglass painted the color of your car would be nice for weight issues. does anyone have a spare fender, from one of there tours that i could buy and try this out, like i said ive fiberglassed somethings and im down to give it a try.




I f you are serious with wanting to try this out, I suggest hitting up a junkyard. That will be the quickest way you'll get one, and they shouldn't charge you much at all. Where as if you buy it off CEG even at a good price, the shipping is going to kill you.
Posted By: EuroTour Re: Carbon Fiber Wide body kit - 12/05/05 02:04 AM
I've got a fender you can use. PM me for details.
Posted By: 1314_dup1 Re: Carbon Fiber Wide body kit - 12/05/05 03:54 AM
OK guys. We all know the outcomes of the past group buys. So, lets leave this thread to those that are interested. If you all want to point and laugh, do so without replying to this thread. Thanks.
Posted By: CSVT#49 Re: Carbon Fiber Wide body kit - 12/05/05 03:59 AM
If your going to try something I would suggest making mold-on/bolt-on fender flares. I would think this could be done easily with relatively little to no pain. Doing a full kit could be a very tough if you don't have a lot of experiance. The tricky part with the fender flares would be how to bring it in with the existing ground effect pieces.

Either way I'm interested to see your progress. Good luck!
Posted By: ZeroHour Re: Carbon Fiber Wide body kit - 12/05/05 04:02 AM
I have to say it be cool, but like mentioned above the price would $$$$ Possibly to the point where guys without an SVT could just go buy one. <--me lol

So everyone from CEG and COA and fordcontour.org needs to buy a powerball ticket and whoever wins can fund kit.

In on honesty it would be a sweet if you could pull it together.
Posted By: Matty K Re: Carbon Fiber Wide body kit - 12/05/05 06:06 PM
Originally posted by SHOTIME2669:
If your going to try something I would suggest making mold-on/bolt-on fender flares. I would think this could be done easily with relatively little to no pain. Doing a full kit could be a very tough if you don't have a lot of experiance. The tricky part with the fender flares would be how to bring it in with the existing ground effect pieces.

Either way I'm interested to see your progress. Good luck!





YES. If done right, bolt on flares could be teh hotness... think of how the lines of a Mirko could lead up and around the wheel well.

Obviously these are way more extreme, but maybe a source of inspiration:





'Course, they could also look terrible, but I'm all about seeing new stuff. T'would be best if the screws went inside the wheel well, and the outside sat flush to the car (reinforced w/ double stick tape?), so no one's drilling holes in the fenders.
Posted By: tsSVT Re: Carbon Fiber Wide body kit - 12/05/05 06:16 PM
That would be really cool to see a wide body on a contour,best of luck to ya.
Originally posted by SvtEdwardo420:
First off, Lay off the nascar spoiler, i know many people who have seen the car in person and say it looks great , now dont get me wrong not every one can like everything, but just give it up. Now I do understand every ones concerns about the kit and how much money it will take to first devlop the kit then sell the kit, so maybe this isnt the way to go , even fenders for the car that arent wide, just plain old stock that are carbon fiber, or fiberglass painted the color of your car would be nice for weight issues. does anyone have a spare fender, from one of there tours that i could buy and try this out, like i said ive fiberglassed somethings and im down to give it a try.



IMHO the only reason to buy CF fenders is to say "I have CF fenders on my contour",considering the fenders only weigh 10 or 15 pounds each.Do you really think it would be worth spending several hundred dollars to save 10 pounds.
Posted By: Pole120 Re: Carbon Fiber Wide body kit - 12/05/05 06:21 PM
flares like on the saleen contour would be the hotness
Posted By: The Digital Slacker Re: Carbon Fiber Wide body kit - 12/05/05 07:11 PM
Originally posted by pole120:
flares like on the saleen contour would be the hotness



Posted By: posthuman63t Re: Carbon Fiber Wide body kit - 12/05/05 07:21 PM
agreed.
Posted By: 69Boss302_dup1 Re: Carbon Fiber Wide body kit - 12/06/05 12:54 AM
Originally posted by pole120:
flares like on the saleen contour would be the hotness



Flares like those as a stand alone piece does not flow with the lines of this car. Now, this is my opinion and I believe that of a large part of CEG as well. If I may be so bold as to go on, in order to make something that is going to be a broad success we need to look at the other kits and where they failed. Both the Erubuni and Kaotic Kit are very nice kits on their own but when coupled to the contour do not match up aesthetically. The one exception is the Erubuni kit put on the Mystique. The lines flow and it actually enhances the car as a whole, not just a section. Dreroks front bumpers were and are very good pieces of work however when you look at the finished piece you could easily tell that something doesn't seem quite right. Even the much drooled over M3 bumper, that I wonder will ever get made, almost doesn't look quite right. It does do a better job at bringing the lines of the car forward and into the bumper but still needs tweaking. In pictures the CF1 trunk does a pretty good job at bringing the lines of the car into it with a small exception. In the pictures it misses the mark by about a half inch to tall. I have never seen it in person myself yet there a handful of people here that will tell me I'm wrong.

Now, if someone wants to take a buddy club kit and stick on the contour backwards because they think it looks great then by all means do it and be proud of your work. If something is to be mass produced or just wants the acceptance of the mass population then it needs to just work.
Enhance the slight lip that is there now on the fender but keep in mind that there isn't anyone running 12" tires that needs to be tucked under the fender because they're so wide.
Keep in mind the spirit and design of the car and work on complimenting and enhancing it.

Mike
Posted By: "shotty driving"-ds Re: Carbon Fiber Wide body kit - 12/06/05 02:32 AM
Does anyone have pictures of the kits mentioned above, particularly on a mystique if possible?


-Thanks
Posted By: 69Boss302_dup1 Re: Carbon Fiber Wide body kit - 12/06/05 05:53 AM
I forget who had the Eribuni kit done. It was a military guy in Charleston SC and the car was painted green. There used to be plenty of pictures on here but I don't know about now. I'll go look.
Posted By: RawBurt Re: Carbon Fiber Wide body kit - 12/06/05 03:59 PM
I just wanted to add the beautiful car owned by CEG'er, WildChild, as some motivation for this...

Posted By: 96 M edition Re: Carbon Fiber Wide body kit - 12/06/05 04:07 PM
now thats what i'm talking about,only i would've had the rear flares extend on the doors aswell
Posted By: CSVT#49 Re: Carbon Fiber Wide body kit - 12/07/05 12:00 AM
Did he use bondo to make those? It sort of looks like it on the rear section.
Posted By: tsSVT Re: Carbon Fiber Wide body kit - 12/07/05 01:11 AM
It would be awesome if you could just do a rear kit so it would match the front a little better.The rear fender on my buddy's Jetta are sexy as hell.
Posted By: 96 M edition Re: Carbon Fiber Wide body kit - 12/07/05 02:01 AM
Originally posted by SHOTIME2669:
Did he use bondo to make those? It sort of looks like it on the rear section.



bondo in the right hands can be a very good tool....in most hands
Posted By: jtour Re: Carbon Fiber Wide body kit - 12/07/05 04:31 PM
It would be cool if they made a widebody kit for the Tour like the Saleen tour!!!

I have seen wide body kits modded to fit cars that didnt have kits made for them. Would a cougar widebody kit (with modifications) fit a contour? I think if someone had the time and skills and money to try it, it would be cool.

Good luck!

Posted By: 69Boss302_dup1 Re: Carbon Fiber Wide body kit - 12/07/05 08:59 PM

Here's the link for the Mystique I was talking about. I think it is the Erebuni kit but the profile says Razzi kit. I can't recall if that's what they named it or if it' something else.
http://www.contour.org/carprofile/carprofile.php?a=display&uid=17294



Originally posted by jtour:
It would be cool if they made a widebody kit for the Tour like the Saleen tour!!!

I have seen wide body kits modded to fit cars that didnt have kits made for them. Would a cougar widebody kit (with modifications) fit a contour? I think if someone had the time and skills and money to try it, it would be cool.

Good luck!






Of course it can be done. Anything can be done with the right money, skills, people, market or whatever.
Posted By: WildChild Re: Carbon Fiber Wide body kit - 12/09/05 10:12 PM
Originally posted by CSVT#49:
Did he use bondo to make those? It sort of looks like it on the rear section.




The flares were custom made at the shop that did the work. They used a mold they had for another project they were working on to make them. I had them fill in everything else for that smooth look.

Thanks for looking out RawBurt
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