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If anybody wants me dead, please start a new thread with this exact same question. Because the next time I see it asked, I'm putting 87 octane gas in my car, and driving into oncoming traffic!

Canadianballer - If you're such a baller, put the right friggin' gas in your car. I know you "gotz da hoez to take out in dat pimp ride of yo's," but wow.

Mark

Originally posted by Y2KSVT:
If anybody wants me dead, please start a new thread with this exact same question. Because the next time I see it asked, I'm putting 87 octane gas in my car, and driving into oncoming traffic!

Canadianballer - If you're such a baller, put the right friggin' gas in your car. I know you "gotz da hoez to take out in dat pimp ride of yo's," but wow.

Mark

Babelfish spat this back out as:

Originally posted by Babelfish:
Search, DO IT NOW!

Originally posted by Y2KSVT:
If anybody wants me dead, please start a new thread with this exact same question. Because the next time I see it asked, I'm putting 87 octane gas in my car, and driving into oncoming traffic!

Canadianballer - If you're such a baller, put the right friggin' gas in your car. I know you "gotz da hoez to take out in dat pimp ride of yo's," but wow.

Mark

wow! Someone needs another beer or something.

But to the original poster...Is it really that big of a deal? So you have to put premium gas in your ride, it costs about $2 more at the pump each fill up. Of course it adds up but seriously...If it is that much of a big deal to you, why didn't you buy a Toyota Prius(sp?) or something.

Seriously, you can put 87 junk in your car. They have a knock sensor and an ecu for a reason. But really, why would you do that to a svt? Go grab up a zetec or regular duratec.

Ok, so 1 post wasn't enough to tell him he needs premium fuel? Chill out people, damn. Tony already posted to tell him, no need for everyone to yell at him and repeat the same thing over and over.

Originally posted by CSVT1214:
Ok, so 1 post wasn't enough to tell him he needs premium fuel? Chill out people, damn. Tony already posted to tell him, no need for everyone to yell at him and repeat the same thing over and over.

Are u talking to me? I wasn't yelling. AFAIK, people post on a forum to get multiple opinions. And it looks like me and tony are the only ones to say he can safely drive on a lower octane but would be better off not. Chill out with them chill out posts.

ROTFL at all the misunderstanding and misinterpretation of posts and replies. Kremit, Tony (CSVT1214) wasn't referring to you. He was just making a general statement and being nice to a newbie.

and then Tony2005 runs away and hides from this thread.

Originally posted by Y2KSVT:

Canadianballer - If you're such a baller, put the right friggin' gas in your car. I know you "gotz da hoez to take out in dat pimp ride of yo's," but wow.

Mark

BAHAHAHAHAHA

Originally posted by Y2KSVT:
If anybody wants me dead, please start a new thread with this exact same question. Because the next time I see it asked, I'm putting 87 octane gas in my car, and driving into oncoming traffic!

Canadianballer - If you're such a baller, put the right friggin' gas in your car. I know you "gotz da hoez to take out in dat pimp ride of yo's," but wow.

Mark

Take a deep breath, and if you're driving, pull over.

I use 87 octane in my 98 SVT E0 and it runs great. I have had maybe 20 tanks of premium in it since it was new.

Before you puke all over yourself, I should further explain a few things. I believe in agressive maintenance, including the combustion chambers and injectors. In other words, there is no carbon build-up that might agrivate pinging.

Also, I have more experience than I care to remember as tune-up specialist and hot rodder. I very well understand what octane is and how important it is. Even as an agressive driver, my car just doesn't need 91 octane fuel. It does NOT run any better with premium fuel, nor does it get any better mileage with premium fuel. I would not dream of taking a risk with lower octane fuel if it didn't work. In all of it's life, I have heard light trace pinging only two times, and both of those were on hot winter days (we have a few of those in southern California) with winter blend gas at part throttle that went away with only slight throttle increase.

That said, I don't recommend this for all SVTs. My car seems to have a less than stellar factory tune that doesn't optimize performance for premium fuel. Frankly, I'm disappointed. I would gladly trade even better performance for using higher octane fuel. So if the factory tune for other SVTs is more agressive they would be more prone to problems. Also, the 2000 has higher compression and may be less able to use lower octane fuel. Someone that isn't as up on maintenance may have a problem. Someone that can't recognize it when they do have a problem should not try it.

I have driven the car with the Ford scanner on it, monitoring timing, with both 87 octane and 91 octane and cannot see any difference. There is no evidence of the knock sensor pulling timing.

Others may not have the same result.

Please stay away from your car until you can gain control of yourself again. (Don't be a Mel Gibson).

Originally posted by Tony2005:
ROTFL at all the misunderstanding and misinterpretation of posts and replies. Kremit, Tony (CSVT1214) wasn't referring to you. He was just making a general statement and being nice to a newbie.

and then Tony2005 runs away and hides from this thread.

Exactly. I was not referring directly to Kremit, but the replies in this thread overall.

Haha, I knew Big Jim would post here! He's the living proof that 87 octane can be put into these cars, as he's got I believe, well over 200k miles on his SVT, using almost all 87 octane. But Big Jim, are you doing much performance driving? Aren't you still on the stock clutch? I suppose if you drive under 3k rpm's, you could get away with it, but I don't like being BELOW 3K rpm's.

My post was a little over the top, but I like to be a little different in how I tell people to SEARCH! And yeah, a sense of humor couldn't hurt some of you.

Mark

Originally posted by Y2KSVT:
Haha, I knew Big Jim would post here! He's the living proof that 87 octane can be put into these cars, as he's got I believe, well over 200k miles on his SVT, using almost all 87 octane. But Big Jim, are you doing much performance driving? Aren't you still on the stock clutch? I suppose if you drive under 3k rpm's, you could get away with it, but I don't like being BELOW 3K rpm's.

My post was a little over the top, but I like to be a little different in how I tell people to SEARCH! And yeah, a sense of humor couldn't hurt some of you.

Mark

meanie head

~Andrew

I just found out that you can run biodiesel in CSVT's... I've been making my own and running it for about a week now.

It says premium fuel only on the gauge cluster.

Originally posted by BatteryLight:
I just found out that you can run biodiesel in CSVT's... I've been making my own and running it for about a week now.

Originally posted by Y2KSVT:
If anybody wants me dead, please start a new thread with this exact same question. Because the next time I see it asked, I'm putting 87 octane gas in my car, and driving into oncoming traffic!

Canadianballer - If you're such a baller, put the right friggin' gas in your car. I know you "gotz da hoez to take out in dat pimp ride of yo's," but wow.

Mark

OK LISTEN! im 16...looking to buy a CSVT! I have been on this forum for only 2 weeks...UNLIKE YOU! i havent posted 6000 times...SO...thanks for those who answered nicely. and to U Mark...F*CK OFF and dont post if u have an issue with a noob like myself...

MARK...im sorry im not a "contour god" as u r...and im sorry i dont kno everything! also...im white...i live in a hick town in michigan...im canadian...and u used to play basketball hense "baller" i DONT Think im black not do i talk gangster...i wear tight polo shirts and dont sag my pants.

THEREfore im a white prep who lives in a hick town and hates white people who think they are black

CLOSE THIS THREAD!

Originally posted by Y2KSVT:
but I don't like being BELOW 3K rpm's.

Same here, but dang v6 drinking all my gas.

Originally posted by The Spelling Nazi:

Originally posted by BatteryLight:
I just found out that you can run biodiesel in CSVT's... I've been making my own and running it for about a week now.

What? I'm saving a ton of cash!!1!

And baller, what town are you from?

Originally posted by canadianballer:

Originally posted by Y2KSVT:
If anybody wants me dead, please start a new thread with this exact same question. Because the next time I see it asked, I'm putting 87 octane gas in my car, and driving into oncoming traffic!

Canadianballer - If you're such a baller, put the right friggin' gas in your car. I know you "gotz da hoez to take out in dat pimp ride of yo's," but wow.

Mark

OK LISTEN! im 16...looking to buy a CSVT! I have been on this forum for only 2 weeks...UNLIKE YOU! i havent posted 6000 times...SO...thanks for those who answered nicely. and to U Mark...F*CK OFF and dont post if u have an issue with a noob like myself...

MARK...im sorry im not a "contour god" as u r...and im sorry i dont kno everything! also...im white...i live in a hick town in michigan...im canadian...and u used to play basketball hense "baller" i DONT Think im black not do i talk gangster...i wear tight polo shirts and dont sag my pants.

THEREfore im a white prep who lives in a hick town and hates white people who think they are black

CLOSE THIS THREAD!

canadianballer

Y2KSVT

You've classified yourself as a noob. Noobs are informed at registration that the search function is a viable tool. Your question would have been answered 8000 times with a search. You don't like my sense of humor? That's fine. No need to bring the race card into it. Maybe had "baller," mistaken for "balla." Good luck with your purchase. Oh, and avoid the East Great Lakes forum if your spine is toothpick thin.

Mark

Originally posted by canadianballer:

Originally posted by Y2KSVT:
If anybody wants me dead, please start a new thread with this exact same question. Because the next time I see it asked, I'm putting 87 octane gas in my car, and driving into oncoming traffic!

Canadianballer - If you're such a baller, put the right friggin' gas in your car. I know you "gotz da hoez to take out in dat pimp ride of yo's," but wow.

Mark

OK LISTEN! im 16...looking to buy a CSVT! I have been on this forum for only 2 weeks...UNLIKE YOU! i havent posted 6000 times...SO...thanks for those who answered nicely. and to U Mark...F*CK OFF and dont post if u have an issue with a noob like myself...

MARK...im sorry im not a "contour god" as u r...and im sorry i dont kno everything! also...im white...i live in a hick town in michigan...im canadian...and u used to play basketball hense "baller" i DONT Think im black not do i talk gangster...i wear tight polo shirts and dont sag my pants.

THEREfore im a white prep who lives in a hick town and hates white people who think they are black

CLOSE THIS THREAD!

N00b are you crying? There is no crying on the CEG forums.

Have some respect. You can't just come on here asking stupid questions without even trying to search, and then say "F*CK OFF" to a veteran.

Go back to Canada there eh?

Maybe they don't teach English very well in Canada because they are worried about trying to teach French-Canuckian as well... You have a lot to learn about spelling, grammar AND RESPECT!!

I agree, lock this thread and ban the n00b: Canuck baller boy!

Originally posted by canadianballer:

CLOSE THIS THREAD!

if you feel a thread should be closed, click this button at the bottom of the offending post, and a moderator will take care of it.

Originally posted by BatteryLight:
I just found out that you can run biodiesel in CSVT's... I've been making my own and running it for about a week now.

I am doing the same but I drained the engine oil because it was robbing HP and the diesel has many lubricity additives in it.

I think it should be ok

right?

Originally posted by BlackE1:

Originally posted by BatteryLight:
I just found out that you can run biodiesel in CSVT's... I've been making my own and running it for about a week now.

I am doing the same but I drained the engine oil because it was robbing HP and the diesel has many lubricity additives in it.

I think it should be ok right?

Hmm, I'll have to look into this. Please post your results.

Originally posted by Ex-Mean'Tour:
The other day my 1998 V6 Contour (101K miles) started making a strange rattling (or something like that) sound. Seemed to disappear at highway speeds. Got it listened to (that's all the time the guy near my work wanted to spend) and he said that it was something to do with the Timing chain. Dropped it at a mechanic that had done some work for me before. He is saying it is the guides and tensioners.

How much should something like that be? What is the cause of this sort of problem?

I'm starting to see more problems with my car. I realize it is getting to be higher mileage... But I have replaced the O2 sensors, the Speed sensor, clutch, hub and bearing (and it needs a 2nd). I'm starting to think that instead of replacing everything, I should just get a Honda or something with a good reputation for high mileage. I love my Contour though. We've owned it since we bought it new.

hey, mean...what was your first post? Sounds like a stupid noob question to me. So, shut up and stop hasstling the noobs...and try helping them. Might actually get some people to stay on the boards.

Originally posted by Ex-Mean'Tour:

N00b are you crying? There is no crying on the CEG forums.

Have some respect. You can't just come on here asking stupid questions without even trying to search, and then say "F*CK OFF" to a veteran.

Go back to Canada there eh?

Maybe they don't teach English very well in Canada because they are worried about trying to teach French-Canuckian as well... You have a lot to learn about spelling, grammar AND RESPECT!!

I agree, lock this thread and ban the n00b: Canuck baller boy!

sorry for casuing hassle...it was an honest question and im sure that u didnt always ask an origional question...sorry about the language or should i say "excues my french"

and thanks one more time for those who have stuck up for me

and EX-MEAN...u shouldnt be talking about respect when u go knocking an entire country which u dont kno much about..

i think we all could use a little RESPECT!! (veterans included)

IM DONE! CLOSE!!!

Originally posted by BatteryLight:

Originally posted by The Spelling Nazi:

Originally posted by BatteryLight:
I just found out that you can run biodiesel in CSVT's... I've been making my own and running it for about a week now.

What? I'm saving a ton of cash!!1!

And baller, what town are you from?

I live in Wixom (its near novi/walled lake/Milford)...also know as Hixom

Originally posted by canadianballer:

Originally posted by BatteryLight:
And baller, what town are you from?

I live in Wixom (its near novi/walled lake/Milford)...also know as Hixom

Ohhhh, your somewhat near Stazi. If you ever need anything done on your car. Hes the man.

if he is the one with the turbo SE which is silver with black rims...then he basically lives on my street...!

good to kno he knows his stuff!

Don't know of any Silver turbo SE's. Stazi has a silver turbo SVT, with 19" wheels. Pretty recognizable car, especially with his new front mount I/C.

Canadianballer PM'd me. There was a misunderstanding. All is well, and no hard feelings. So Canadianballer, welcome to the site, thanks for the apologies, and have a good time.

Mark

Originally posted by Y2KSVT:
There was a misunderstanding. All is well, and no hard feelings. So Canadianballer, welcome to the site, thanks for the apologies, and have a good time.

Mark

you [censored].

~Andrew

Yup...that sounds like him

i used to talk to his bro and i thought he told me it wasnt an SVT...i must have misheard of him...o well...YES that is him and his car is very recognizable.

Haha, we might still be thinking of different people. Stazi is married, and has a deep Australian accent. Has an Austrlian license plate on the front of the car as well. I wasn't aware of him having a brother close by. Could be him though.

Mark

we were...i just found out i was talking about Stoobie

i think he has a silver turbo SE with a body kit and a carbon hood and Black wheels

Originally posted by Y2KSVT:
Haha, we might still be thinking of different people. Stazi is married, and has a deep Australian accent. Has an Austrlian license plate on the front of the car as well. I wasn't aware of him having a brother close by. Could be him though.

Mark

you [censored].

~Andrew

Originally posted by Y2KSVT:
Haha, I knew Big Jim would post here! He's the living proof that 87 octane can be put into these cars, as he's got I believe, well over 200k miles on his SVT, using almost all 87 octane. But Big Jim, are you doing much performance driving? Aren't you still on the stock clutch? I suppose if you drive under 3k rpm's, you could get away with it, but I don't like being BELOW 3K rpm's.

My post was a little over the top, but I like to be a little different in how I tell people to SEARCH! And yeah, a sense of humor couldn't hurt some of you.

Mark

Obviously you have never been on a ride with me driving. I had an 80 mile round trip commute today. I was over 6500 RPM about a dozen times.

Do you remember the Tom Kruse movie about NASCAR racing? Do you remember how he was tearing up equipment, especially tires, until the crew chief helped him to be a finise driver? He could still win races without tearing things up once he understood the equipment. That's the way I drive. That kind of comes with the territory when you spend a large share of your adult life repairing cars.

the csvt has a 10:1 compreion ratio, and all though its not requierd. its not the best thing to do. with that compresion ratio detination can happen if 93 is not used