why didn't svt use the supercharger?

the word from teh SVT quest speaker at SZ04 was that they would have gone to a 3L engine in the SVT if Ford hadn't discontinued the car

Actually, the Profile concept from about 1991 had an intercooled supercharger. I wonder if Ford felt that their R&D dollars where wasted on that thing.

Originally posted by BrApple:
the word from teh SVT quest speaker at SZ04 was that they would have gone to a 3L engine in the SVT if Ford hadn't discontinued the car

Really! Dang it ford...why did they have to stop making the tour.

Originally posted by jtour:

Originally posted by BrApple:
the word from teh SVT quest speaker at SZ04 was that they would have gone to a 3L engine in the SVT if Ford hadn't discontinued the car

Really! Dang it ford...why did they have to stop making the tour.

Seriously. They were improving the design every year, and it was surely one of their best platforms. No, let's end the Contour, and keep making the Escort for two more years

Originally posted by RTStabler51:
search 'roots' in the forced induction thread and see the problems with that type of SC.

What about the type of sc the saleen mustang has on it??..vortech i think the brand is...intstead of a roots type.

Originally posted by Rishodi:

Originally posted by jtour:

Originally posted by BrApple:
the word from teh SVT quest speaker at SZ04 was that they would have gone to a 3L engine in the SVT if Ford hadn't discontinued the car

Really! Dang it ford...why did they have to stop making the tour.

Seriously. They were improving the design every year, and it was surely one of their best platforms.

Improving? I wouldnt say that. I think the quality went down a little bit over the years and each year they decontented more and more features.

Originally posted by CSVT1214:

Originally posted by Rishodi:

Originally posted by jtour:

Originally posted by BrApple:
the word from teh SVT quest speaker at SZ04 was that they would have gone to a 3L engine in the SVT if Ford hadn't discontinued the car

Really! Dang it ford...why did they have to stop making the tour.

Seriously. They were improving the design every year, and it was surely one of their best platforms.

Improving? I wouldnt say that. I think the quality went down a little bit over the years and each year they decontented more and more features.

Well then I suppose that's a matter of opinion... it's true that some things improved, others regressed. It was improving steadily up to '98 at least, anyway.

Originally posted by Kokorebellion:
Actually, the Profile concept from about 1991 had an intercooled supercharger. I wonder if Ford felt that their R&D dollars where wasted on that thing.

And awd.

Originally posted by Rishodi:

Seriously. They were improving the design every year, and it was surely one of their best platforms. No, let's end the Contour, and keep making the Escort for two more years

Escort was cheaper and didn't compete with the taurus.

Forget Supercharger, I would have been happy if they just kept bringing over the Mondeo.

A MKIII Mondeo with a massaged 2.5 or the 3.0 duratec would have been fantastic.

Yeah, agreed.

if you look at the saleen contour "concept" you'll see that they kept blowing motors.

Originally posted by brandonsvt99:
Like the post says why didn't SVT use the supercharger from the lightning and cobra on the contour?at least for the 2000 model.I'm sure the "experts" will answer this.

Side note: It would of been awsome for the SVT contour to have been supercharged we would be able to compete with the evo and sti's today.I know,I know you can just buy an ADC turbo kit,but it would of been niceto start off with a supercharger.

(see what happens when your bored and all you can do is think about your car )

Originally posted by Rishodi:

Originally posted by CSVT1214:

Originally posted by Rishodi:

Originally posted by jtour:

Originally posted by BrApple:
the word from teh SVT quest speaker at SZ04 was that they would have gone to a 3L engine in the SVT if Ford hadn't discontinued the car

Really! Dang it ford...why did they have to stop making the tour.

Seriously. They were improving the design every year, and it was surely one of their best platforms.

Improving? I wouldnt say that. I think the quality went down a little bit over the years and each year they decontented more and more features.

Well then I suppose that's a matter of opinion... it's true that some things improved, others regressed. It was improving steadily up to '98 at least, anyway.

Not really. Again, some things improved, but even more things were decontented. Decontenting started immediately after introduction of the Contour.

Originally posted by Big Jim:

Originally posted by Rishodi:

Originally posted by CSVT1214:

Originally posted by Rishodi:

Originally posted by jtour:

Originally posted by BrApple:
the word from teh SVT quest speaker at SZ04 was that they would have gone to a 3L engine in the SVT if Ford hadn't discontinued the car

Really! Dang it ford...why did they have to stop making the tour.

Seriously. They were improving the design every year, and it was surely one of their best platforms.

Improving? I wouldnt say that. I think the quality went down a little bit over the years and each year they decontented more and more features.

Well then I suppose that's a matter of opinion... it's true that some things improved, others regressed. It was improving steadily up to '98 at least, anyway.

Not really. Again, some things improved, but even more things were decontented. Decontenting started immediately after introduction of the Contour.

Enlighten me... what was decontented from 95-98? Just wondering, because I'm aware of several of the little things that happened starting with 98.5 but I haven't heard of anything before then. I searched for decontenting but only found info on the latter years.

I know there are quite a few things, but I'll mention what comes to mind. Optional heated outside mirrors. Better level of rust proofing. Rod shift to cable shift on manual trans. The rod shift was a content upgrade on the Taurus SHO and Ford went backward on the Contour. Manual trans case casting finish quality. SE lost better handling suspension. Less sound deadner throughout the entire body. Front seats on 95 to 97 more comfortable (better pading and better bolstering). Wheel covers on 98 and newer base models are exceptionally ugly and look completly out of place.

The 95s had little halos in the outside locks so you could see where to put the key. In 96, it was dropped.

They were on my friend's 95 GL with no options other than power locks and ATX. They were not on my 96 that had more stuff like alloys and power windows.

They also removed the lock and light from the glove box either for 97 or 98. My 96GL had both, my 98SVT has neither. Later years I hear the girly man hook was dropped off it also.

Heated mirrors were mentioned, probly one of the bigger decontents, IMO.

If the svt came with a supercharger, it would have been faster than the ford mustang, which would have been a big no no.

Originally posted by Kokorebellion:

Originally posted by brandonsvt99:
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Ummm.... Hood?

I wonder if a cowl hood would look good? Probly not...

Originally posted by Big Daddy Kane:

Originally posted by Kokorebellion:

Originally posted by brandonsvt99:
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Ummm.... Hood?

I wonder if a cowl hood would look good? Probly not...

I dunno, if done right, might look pretty cool.
And yes the CSVT S/C would be faster then a Mustang GT that would definatly be "bad".
A 3 liter in a CSVT would be cool too, I wish they kept the Contour longer.
I do like the new Mondeos, they resemble the Focus, but I think the Mondeo looks better then a Focus as the Mondeo looked better then Contours. Why do the oversea's people get better stuff then we do.

I remembers another decontented item. The underhood light. The 97 was the last year with it. I would have liked to recontent that with a factory wone, but it looks like you would have to pull a fender to mount the switch.

Originally posted by Mystique97:
I do like the new Mondeos, they resemble the Focus, but I think the Mondeo looks better then a Focus as the Mondeo looked better then Contours. Why do the oversea's people get better stuff then we do.

Well... From what I've seen, there's 4 cars that look similar.

The Mondeo/Focus/C-Max/Galaxy

Check this out. Doesn't show the new body Focus/C-Max, though.

Galaxy:

Everyone's seen a Mk3 Mondeo, so here's a Czech police car:

Focus C-Max (sort of a crossover thing):

Euro Focus:

Originally posted by Big Jim:
I remembers another decontented item. The underhood light. The 97 was the last year with it. I would have liked to recontent that with a factory wone, but it looks like you would have to pull a fender to mount the switch.

I can tell you what was decontented in pre98 models.
Underhood light last year was 96 (I dont't have one I got a early 97 model)
Lock and light for glove box (don't have either)
The light ring for the lock on the outside of car (someone mentioned 95's only had them)
97 I believe was the last for the door lamps on the corner bottom, someone correct me if I'm wrong on this.
Thats all I can think of right now.

Originally posted by Mystique97:
Underhood light last year was 96 (I dont't have one I got a early 97 model)

97 I believe was the last for the door lamps on the corner bottom, someone correct me if I'm wrong on this.
Thats all I can think of right now.

Forgot about the underhood light... my 96 didn't have it, while the friend's 95 did.

I don't think any Contours had the lights on the doors, so must be a Mystique thing.

you could get the inner door handle lights to..my 96se has them..what about tc? was that on post98's? the door lights,mystique only,same with the extra "glove box" down below the steering wheel..i tried to put that in my svt dash...could work with a little moding..might still try it this spring....iirc reading through old brochures they said the sound deadning was better in the post98's?? ..i know the body rusts faster on the post98's,esp on the bottom of the doors

Originally posted by beyondloadedSE:
If the svt came with a supercharger, it would have been faster than the ford mustang, which would have been a big no no.

i think the reliability issues made more difference. So it would be faster than a standard GT, it wouldn't beat a cobra.

I had a one-on-one talk with an SVT employee back in early '01 , and was told by him , that when they set out to make the SVT Contour it was already rumored to be a short-lived car . He said that they did what they could , with what they had available to them (and did a FINE job , if you ask me

) . Why would they do TOO much to it (especially towards the end of the run) when the car was a gonner ? He did , however , say that they were all pretty enthused with the Contour & thought it was a great candidate for a "hot-up" , and were sorry to see it go .

Also the remote fuel door release was decontented between '96 & '97.
I think there are mixed feelings on wheather this was good or not.

Originally posted by BrApple:
the word from teh SVT quest speaker at SZ04 was that they would have gone to a 3L engine in the SVT if Ford hadn't discontinued the car

i read that ford was even originally gonna go with a 3L but it wasnt offered on the regular contours so they would have had to crash test the svt models and it was going to be cost effective, especially like brapple said...the car was not going to be around much longer

Originally posted by RespectTheContour:

i read that ford was even originally gonna go with a 3L but it wasnt offered on the regular contours so they would have had to crash test the svt models and it was going to be cost effective, especially like brapple said...the car was not going to be around much longer

Completely wrong, the Contour would not have required re-running crash certification to use the 3L. You are probably thinking of the statements made about putting the 2.5L into the Focus.

I also remember reading an interview (linked from this forum) with OJ Coletti after he left SVT, and he was asked what he regretted not getting around to. One of the things he mentioned was putting FI into the Contour, though I remember the word "turbo". I'm not sure if that was actually the plan at SVT or just Coletti's wishful thinking.

I recall that post, too. And yes, the thread talked about a turbo IIRC.
Scott

I have the article in which he states. That he was hoping to work our platform a bit more in the future. But ford just pulled the plug all of a sudden. He then went on saying he wanted to make the CSVT to be more like the M3 type. With hopes of a turbo'd version!!

Originally posted by Rara:

Originally posted by RespectTheContour:

i read that ford was even originally gonna go with a 3L but it wasnt offered on the regular contours so they would have had to crash test the svt models and it was going to be cost effective, especially like brapple said...the car was not going to be around much longer

Completely wrong, the Contour would not have required re-running crash certification to use the 3L. You are probably thinking of the statements made about putting the 2.5L into the Focus.

why dont you pick up "Powered by SVT" and read it, that was my reference, or do you work for ford?

Originally posted by RespectTheContour:
why dont you pick up "Powered by SVT" and read it, that was my reference, or do you work for ford?

LOL! Work there? I've been told he lives there. What else do you think engineers from Westland, MI do?

Originally posted by hetfield:
What else do you think engineers from Westland, MI do?

Uhh... not work for Ford?

I dunno, that's all I've got on that!

Originally posted by hetfield:

Originally posted by RespectTheContour:
why dont you pick up "Powered by SVT" and read it, that was my reference, or do you work for ford?

LOL! Work there? I've been told he lives there. What else do you think engineers from Westland, MI do?

they call me a liar! haha, thats what they do there