Originally posted by Paul Kienitz:
Originally posted by MeanGreen2:

It's OTC...easy to find.




Wrong. I live in a major urban area and was told it would take at least 30 days and $80.




Wrong. I can probably repeat what I did before...order it online and get it in 2 days...or at worst, order it off of one of the weekly tool men, and have it in the next week, not a month.

Originally posted by MeanGreen2:

The tool IS for timing belt changes. I don't know what you're going on about. Are we even talking about the same thing?




Originally posted by Paul Kienitz:
It's handy for timing belt changes, but not necessary. It is necessary for cam timing adjustment.




Are you talking about the tool [flat bar] that locks the cams? Fool, that alignment tool [flat bar] is an absolute must in order to set the cams in the "Valve Overlap" position...the settings have to be accurate.


Originally posted by MeanGreen2:

LMAO...tell that to the next zetec owner that has an engine that won't idle and keeps setting codes, because the mechanic did such a sloppy job with *cardboard*...and allowing the cams to be a tooth off.





Originally posted by Paul Kienitz:
Look, getting the belt off by a whole tooth -- nine degrees -- takes such a degree of amateurishness and sloppiness that there is no excuse for it even if you are using no alignment tool at all.




Who said it was okay? You? The same person that said cardboard would work as an alignment tool.


Originally posted by Paul Kienitz:
Even if it happens, it's so easy to check for that the risk is really not there for anyone who knows what they're doing and is at all careful. I could do it right with no tool and a blindfold on. It just isn't difficult.




Would you permit the use of cardboard?


Originally posted by MeanGreen2:
The three tools are required because on the zetec you sometimes have to readjust the cams...




Originally posted by Paul Kienitz:
Yes, you do, but not as a normal part of a timing belt change! When you do need to, then the alignment tool is required.




What are you going on about? The alignment tool will always be needed. What's wrong? You're unable to even use the proper terms for the tools?


Originally posted by MeanGreen2:
and the peg tool has nothing to do with loosening the cam sprockets,




Originally posted by Paul Kienitz:
Who said it did? I mentioned that the peg was not needed to put on a timing belt, and then I mentioned in parentheses the other tool for holding cam sprockets. I gave you no reason to run the two together.




I think that someone said that the peg is only needed when the cams need to be moved...so...why...the belt is meant to work as the cam holding tool, instead of an actual tool, allowing the crank to stay locked while the belt gets destroyed?