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#992490 06/29/04 03:26 PM
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This is what the guy sent me.....

"Dear Sir/Ma,

Thanks for your mail,I was discussing with my client when i got your mail,i will really appreciate it if you can hold on to the car for my client and am glad to tell you that, terms have been agreed on by my client with the company rules and regulation. My client has instructed me to carry on with the transaction , that payment will get to you in a cashier check of $15,000 which is a refund payment of a cancelled order earlier made by my client.

Due to company policy this check has to be made out in this amount to
you ,because company policy only allows a refund payment on one
cashier check,so you are required to deduct the money of your(car)$7,600 and refund the balance($7,400) to my customer via money gram transfer in your location to him to be able to offset shipping charges.After payment has reached you and balance sent back to my customer,our agent will come for the pick up immediately (24hrs max)and drive to a prepaid shipper to be shipped to my awaiting customer,while title papers and other necessary documents will be sent by you via fedex courier to my customer.

Please Confirm this and provide the following details;Your legal name,address and phone number for the check payment to be delivered
to you via courier serivce as soon as possible,I will be expecting a
quick response from you.

Thanks,
Mike."


These guys just don't give up. hahaha.


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*cough*SCAM*cough*


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No, they don't give up. I would think that scam would have been long gone, but if they're still throwing it out there, it must be working on someone.


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Do you care to publish his email for us?

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I do have a question about that though. A cashiers check is the same as a money order correct? Like money in hand so to speak? So how exactly does this scam work? Also, here is the guys e-mail address mike_johnson_2005@fastermail.com, and may I ask why you would want it?


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Originally posted by infinitemethod:
I do have a question about that though. A cashiers check is the same as a money order correct? Like money in hand so to speak?





Yes, but its only good if issued from a reputable institution from an account with legitimate funds.

Which I can pretty much guarantee... this won't be


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So how exactly can you get a cashiers check that isn't legit? I'm not up on my "ripping people off" stuff.


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when you go and cash/deposit a check, the bank pretty much gives you the money right away and doesn't know that the check will bounce for a couple days.
After they find it bounces, they go after you for the money.
so you cash the 15k send back the 7.4 or whatever, but are stuck with a 15k debt to the bank and whatever bank fees come with bounced checks.

That's how I understand it to be anyway.


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And you've sold your car, or whatever item being scammed on, so you've lost that on top of everything else.


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Response from ebay seller with a too good to be true RX-7 for sale.

Hello,
Thank you for your interest in purchasing my Rx-7. My name is Adrian Chavez and i am selling this Mazda
First of all I must inform you that currently I'm in Uk and I have to let you know that the car is here with me and it is in a perfect condition.
The car it has a clear title which you will receive with the car.
It can be registered into your name, so stay cool about this.
The car is in perfect condition , it has never been damaged. The engine runs very well and the transmision runs smooth. Mint condition
I have to tell you that I have other serious offers that I have to consider and I will make a decision regarding this sale by the time of payment and the price.

The price I hope to obtain is $6500 (this price includes the shipping and insurance) and if you agree with this price we can start to complete the transaction.

The payment must be done using a money order service.

I prefer money order because in this way I will ship the car in the same day you make the payment.
I know that the best deals are closed when the risk involved is minimum. You will arrange payment through Western Union (www.westernunion.com).

In case you want me to ship you the car right now you have to make me a payment of $2000 (and after you receive and inspect the car you have to send me the rest of the money.
The inspection period for it is 7 days.I have something safe for you because I want you to be sure that you will receive the car and I hope we will collaborate in future too.
Look what I can do for you:

- you will make the transfer to my location but not to my name(you will use your best friends name for example as receiver's name) so you can be sure that I will not pick up the money until you get the car; so you make a deposit at Western Union and you will give me the transfer's details (SENDER'S NAME AND ADDRESS, RECEIVER'S NAME, MTCN) so I can check that the deposit was made.

After I verify it I will send you the car immediately.
- only after you will receive the car and check it if it's OK you will have to change the receiver's name of the transfer to my name so I can collect my money.

So until you will have the car at your home the money will be deposited on your best friend's name at Western Union Agency.

I think it is better not to inform Western Union that you will change the receivers name in a few days because it is possible they ask you to pay the fees twice (fees that are quite big for such an amount),also when you go to an Western Union office to make the transfer,please don't tell them the reason for sending the money because here in this country I must pay some additional taxes when I receive the funds.

Please tell them you send the money to your friend or to a business partner.
My old buyers made the transfer's at Western Union directly to my name which is easier and I will be happy if you can trust in me but because it is our first deal I proposed you this very safe and efficient method so you can only deposit the money first and after you get the car to allow me to receive them.

I will take you as a serious and possible buyer (this way I will loose all the nonpaying buyers that I occur everyday) and arrange a further deal but in this case you have to come in person to the car´s location to see the car and take it back with you or you can send a friend or agent that lives near by to inspect the car and pay the rest of the money.
After you've completed the transfer you will receive a confirmation that will allow me to track the transfer.

Here are the details that I need:

- sender's name and address;
- receiver's name, if you set a friend of yours as the receiver;
- exact amount wired;
- MTCN (Money Transfer Control Number) (10 digits)
- if it is possible a scanned copy of the receipt format .JPEG for me to add to the files.

As soon as the payment will be confirmed and the money will be properly sent, I will IMMEDIATELY proceed with shipping if you send me the full amount or I will hold the car for you if you've deposited $2000.

In case you've payed the whole summ I will ship the car via Lufthansa Airplane Cargo insured and it will take 72 hours until you will have it at your door step.

The amount of payment are fully refundable if for any reason you do not accept the car or if the car has scratches, hidden defects, or it is not as advertised. I will even pay for the shipping back to my location if you reject the car but since it is a state of the art and works and looks perfectly I think it wouldn't get to this.

Here is my name and address you need for the Western Union transfer:

My details:
Adrian Chavez
171 Old Brompton Road,
London
SW5 0AN
Uk

If you agree with these terms, let me know and I will be more than
glad to start completing the transaction with you.

Thank you and I hope that you will have the pleasure to drive this car.
I am waiting your answer asap
Thank you and kindly regards!

amgj4ok@yahoo.com


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