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Originally posted by Pete D:
I think you might be missing part of my point about social programs funded by taxes. It's more of a proactive aproach than a reactive one, not a bad idea if you ask me.
Thats right, if we ask you, which means in your opinion. I,however, do have a problem with government proactivly, or reactively supporting the lower classes with the money from those that have it.
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Quoting the interpretations of the founding fathers is a slippery slope. Keep in mind that they created the constitution in a building with the shutters locked in secrecy. Furthermore, the articles of confederation failed because it gave the states too much power and too little cental power, plus the "founding fathers" were a little concerned about themselves, and made some decisons reflectiong that. Furthermore, they only gave the right to vote to white, landholding men, some food for thought. I don't think wealth should be redistributed 100%, that isn't right. But the huge gaps we have between the rich and the poor only keep growing, what do you propose we do?
No, if you read this part of the post I do indeed say that we can not take what they said 100% literally anymore. Yes, they made mistakes (slavery, men voting only, etc) but back then, these were not as taboo and seen wrong by society as thy are today. Your right, things change, but one thing we do know for sure is that communism doesn't work. And I don't understand why you see the gaps between the rich and the poor to be a problem? There is room in America for everyone to make a good living for themselves if they try. I have absolutely no problem knowing the fact that I will never be a billionaire, sure it would be nice, but it wont happen. Everyone has the chance to make a decent living, if they want to being the key question. So to answer you directly, I would do not a damn thing.
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I think we already established that a minumum wage job isn't a living wage. As far as jobs, poverty and unemployment, I might suggest taking a course in Macroeconomics. You said you are a college student, so it shouldn't be that hard to find one 
If you are at the point in your life where you are STILL working a minimum wage job AND trying to support at least yourself, then YOU messed up, not me...
I have taken 2 economics classes in college, micro and macro, I don't see what that has to do with being able to work hard and elevate yourself out of the minimum wage paying job.
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I don't argue this at all. In our overly materialistic society often low income people feel the need to make it appear like they have more money than they actually do, it is reather sad.
Don't blame society for people like this, they made themselves. Also, in this one case, in the part of the country I am in, appearing to have money is not a very high priority (can we say, white trash).
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Uninformed about the Fox News Channel? Nope, it's on in my living room right now. My stepfather watches it probably 4hrs a day at least. They have some of the most tilted coverage I have seen. Although I will admit there are no media outlets in america that I feel are actually 100% objective.
You say tilted, I say better. Obviously more agree with me than not, as their ratings are far more than any other cable news station. But this debate is old and IMHO tired...
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FWIW, I don't consider myself a democrat. Heck, in HS I was in the young republicans club.
Not calling you a liar, but I find that extremely hard to believe, given your current political views. But people do change. -Nick
"Moore has also accused the American people of being the stupidest, most naive people on the face of the Earth. And after last weekend, he's got the box office numbers to prove it!"
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