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Originally posted by caltour:
He is against shipping all of our jobs overseas.
Then why did the champion of the american worker contract his website business to a CANADIAN firm?
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He thinks the war in Iraq was a mistake, and we should have cooperated with the EU and other countries in maintainging sanctions instead of killing thousands of Iraqis and hundreds of young Americans.
The sitting and waiting game wasn't going to do anything and we saw how successful sanctions were.
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Recent polls suggest that his agenda on EACH of these issues is supported by a majority of Americans. [flamesuit on]
A poll sample is hardly a majority.
And I'll tell you why I dislike Michael Moore. His so-called "documentary" of "Bowling for Columbine" was full of misleading information and twisted facts. Yet he claims his films aren't "documentaries" yet he willingly accepts an OSCAR for his documentary that wasn't a documentary? And that's just the tip of the iceberg. That makes him a liar and a hypocrit. He's a perfect liberal.
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"Ask, and you shall receive". Originally posted by caltour:
He is in favor of such things as housing for low income people and the homeless,
Translation: He is a socialist.
Originally posted by caltour:
closing tax loopholes for offshore corporations,
Translation: He is in favor of making things more expensive here, in order to restrict capitalism.
Originally posted by caltour:
reforming the campaign finance laws so that the wealthy do not have excessive control of politicians,
Translation: He is in favor of restricting freedom of speech.
Originally posted by caltour:
energy self-sufficiency,
I don't believe this, because then he'd be in favor of drilling in ANWR.
Originally posted by caltour:
cleaning up the environment and preserving open space,
Translation: He uses this view to promote anti-capitalism.
Originally posted by caltour:
providing day care for children of working parents,
Translation: Socialism, once again. Not to mention the destruction of families he's in favor of by supporting this view.
Originally posted by caltour:
and keeping our military out of places where our national interests are not at stake.
I agree. Next task is to find somewhere that the military is where our national interests are not at stake. You'll be looking for a long time.
Originally posted by caltour:
He is against the robbery of our national treasury by defense contractors and oil companies that profit from our engagement in the Middle East.
This hasn't happened. If you're talking about Halliburton, they are the most qualified company in the world to stabilize the region's resources. Should the job go to anyone else because Dick Cheney used to work for them?
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He is against shipping all of our jobs overseas.
If taxes weren't so high we wouldn't have to ship our jobs overseas. I'm sure Fat Bastard isn't in favor of cutting taxes.
Originally posted by caltour:
He thinks the war in Iraq was a mistake, and we should have cooperated with the EU and other countries in maintainging sanctions instead of killing thousands of Iraqis and hundreds of young Americans.
With the UN running the show, nothing was going to get done. The UN itself said it had to be done, yet they knew it was never going to get done. That's why thousands of Iraqis and hundreds of Americans had to die, because the UN wouldn't do anything about it. And we're better because of it.
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Recent polls suggest that his agenda on EACH of these issues is supported by a majority of Americans. [flamesuit on]
Wow, must be true.
NOW this is a political thread. Everyone's going to reply about how stupid this sounds. But it's my view on the issues at hand. These views are as radical to Fat Bastard-types as Fat Bastard-types views are to me.
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He is in favor of such things as housing for low income people and the homeless,
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Translation: He is a socialist.
and why is that a bad thing? Because there were some bad men who did bad things in the name of Socialism. Guess what? There are bad men doing bad things in the name of capitalism and that's why some of these programs are needed!
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closing tax loopholes for offshore corporations,
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Translation: He is in favor of making things more expensive here, in order to restrict capitalism.
Maybe they need to pay their fair share in order to do business in this country!
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reforming the campaign finance laws so that the wealthy do not have excessive control of politicians,
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Translation: He is in favor of restricting freedom of speech.
So only people who can afford to be heard will be? 
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I don't believe this, because then he'd be in favor of drilling in ANWR.
Because why should we save anything for future generations! Greed and consumption is what you're all about, right! Besides there are other alternative to raping one of the last unspoiled frontier!
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Translation: He uses this view to promote anti-capitalism.
Oh god no not that! See the above answer!
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Translation: Socialism, once again. Not to mention the destruction of families he's in favor of by supporting this view.
In order to support capitalism both mom and dad have to work so they can continue to consume and feed the system, so what's the option? Stop having kids? That would be Anti-capitalism!
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Originally posted by PackRat:
And I'll tell you why I dislike Michael Moore. His so-called "documentary" of "Bowling for Columbine" was full of misleading information and twisted facts. Yet he claims his films aren't "documentaries" yet he willingly accepts an OSCAR for his documentary that wasn't a documentary? And that's just the tip of the iceberg. That makes him a liar and a hypocrit. He's a perfect liberal.
Exactly, he give very one sided views, and some of the info in the new movie has been challenged and yet to be proved. I liked the bowling for columbine movie, its good entertainment. I may see this movie, but just for entertainment value. Thats all there good for. Left wingers 
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Originally posted by RT and his SE:
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So only people who can afford to be heard will be?
This was the most entertaining irony noted here...that Moore opposes the wealthy having excessive control of politics after having spent millions to produce the first feature length film aimed SOLELY at changing votes. The level of hypocracy is astounding..
The desire for "alternative fuels"...why do so many millionares and billionares say this, yet not try to initiate R&D themselves. Why rely on the govermnent here?? Finding a viable alternative fuel source should be every capitalists dream. Do only socialists say this? If Moore, Soros, etc. had invested in this instead of bitching about the pres, they may have solved the problem and won the Noble Prize. More Hypocracy!
The desire for higher taxes....has he or his ilk ever VOLUNTARILY PAID higher taxes? Just wrote a check to Uncle Sam with a note saying "You know better how to spend my money so here is a bunch of it". That would likely be another "fat chance" (no pun intended). Need I say again..hypocracy.
Does he move to a beloved socialist state? God knows we have enough of them...now including France & Germany..ALL going down the toliet with rampant unemployment. I give Jonny Dep credit for moving but not our hypocritical fat camp dropout. Fairly standard "off the rack" socialist blowhard really..hard to understand the big deal.
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Originally posted by RT and his SE:
and why is that a bad thing? Because there were some bad men who did bad things in the name of Socialism. Guess what? There are bad men doing bad things in the name of capitalism and that's why some of these programs are needed!
Our Fore Fathers came here to get away from socialism. Socialism is not what America is. If you want socialism, go north or over to Europe. I don't know where socialists got the idea that socialism is the answer. Socialism has been proven to be a failed system. Why does anyone think it would work with the American people?
Originally posted by RT and his SE:
Maybe they need to pay their fair share in order to do business in this country!
"Fair share" is a flat tax. Anything else is socialist.
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So only people who can afford to be heard will be?
Do you think a bunch of rich Republicans run moveon.org? You can be heard without money. If people don't want to find out what they need to do to be heard, then they should not complain about not being heard.
Originally posted by RT and his SE:
Because why should we save anything for future generations! Greed and consumption is what you're all about, right! Besides there are other alternative to raping one of the last unspoiled frontier!
I'm all for reducing reliance on foreign oil sources. If you want to spin it and say that means I don't care about future generations, that I'm all for consumption and greed and I want to rape the last unspoiled frontier, then so be it.
If you support the ends then you should support the means.
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Oh god no not that! See the above answer!
Rusty, you own your own business. Are you saying anti-capitalism is good? Give me a break!
Originally posted by RT and his SE:
In order to support capitalism both mom and dad have to work so they can continue to consume and feed the system, so what's the option? Stop having kids? That would be Anti-capitalism!
Wrong. In order to support socialism, two adults have to work. Roughly half of our income goes to the government. So two people make one full wage. Get rid of most of our taxes and we'd be more able to go support our families on one wage. I'm not saying we should be tax-free. If we prioritized government-paid things instead of paying for everything, Americans would have a lot more money, and two adults wouldn't have to work to support a family.
Rusty, you disappoint me, brother! 
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Here comes the entertainment.
Let's get rid of all that creepy liberal/socialism. Let's start with the military, the police, public highways, postal service, public education, parks, public hospitals, public retirement supplements, unemployment compensation, a public civil justice system, etc. Each one that has even AN IOTA of corruption or waste, even 1%, get rid of it. Entirely. My money is mine, all mine, and I didn't ask for no stinkin' services. I do not see why I should pay for YOU or your snot nosed kids to go to University of Michigan, Arizona, Massachusetts, California, Indiana State, SUNY, etc. when they can earn their own way at a private school. Or do home school so they learn the truth! And single moms should take their kids to work. That will fix them for having unprotected sex when they shouldda just said no. Simple solutions for simple problems! Learn 'em all the three Rs, instead of calculus and IT and all that other elitist crap! And NO government subsidies for anything! Cost/benefit my ass, there are principles to follow!
I purchased a gun two weeks ago. (Yes, it's true. But it's complicated. Now back to the rant.) Now that I have one, I'm no longer Michael Moore's friend. But don't go see Harry Potter either, it celebrates witchcraft! Anyway, I can't speak for the truth any more right now, I've gotta get going to open my toll road. Everything in range of my weapon, I'll charge passage for food or firewood. I'll run it on the barter system. Won't take any of that socialist money. This will be more fun than having civilization. I'll show those nutty scandahoovians what I think of their sky high taxes and quality of life!
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You are descibing anarchism...not relevent, except in that like socialism, it is a proven failure.
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Originally posted by Dan Nixon:
You are descibing anarchism...not relevent, except in that like socialism, it is a proven failure.
He does a nice song and dance around the subject, though.
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