Originally posted by Davo7SVT:
I don't see how wishing for someone's death is indicative of a lack of open-mindedness. I wish Osama bin Laden was dead. Damn that's close-minded! There are some people I see as harmful to others, whose departure from this Earth would benefit a great many people.



Helz yeah I want OBL dead. Not because I disagree with his views, but because he was responsible for the deaths of 3000+ innocent people.

To think that only agreeing with your views serves the betterment of mankind is pompous. To think that anyone who disagrees with your views should be dead for the betterment of mankind is completely self-centered and despicable. To think that you are in any position to determine who should live and die for the betterment of mankind is frightening, actually.

Here's a point: I can name one very prominent person who belives that all people that don't agree with him should be put to death. His name is Osama bin Laden.

Originally posted by Davo7SVT:
Not to make this thread into an argument about the Iraq War, but.... 1) the 9/11 Commission has nothing to do with the Iraq War, even though the media is trying to make you think its great revelations do in fact have something to do with the war.



Wow, you are terribly ignorant. The 9/11 commission has been charged with directly investigating ties between al-Queda and Iraq and found none. Iraq's ties to A-Q was a central point in Bush's argument for war now and it seems there aren't any credible ties at all besides A-Q trying to establish some relationship and Iraq ignoring them.

Originally posted by Davo7SVT:
2) We didn't go to war based on the faulty intelligence, again, even though the media is trying to make you believe we did.



So, what, Tenet and Clark are making this up? And Tenet lied to a congressional committee? I guess the fact that Clark isn't a Bush yes-man anymore makes him less credible in your book.

Originally posted by Davo7SVT:
3) We have found many WMDs in Iraq. You just haven't seen the reports because the media has been busy reporting the Abu Ghraid prison "scandal".



Wow, oh wow. You don't think that O'Reilly and Limbaugh (and Tony Blair and Pres. Bush) would be shouting it from the rooftops if we had found some? I seem to remember that when the troops found 'suspected' WMD sites, it was all over the news, until tests showed they weren't what they first appeared to be.

And here's a problem with your argument that Moore should have released Abu Gharib abuse photos as soon as he had them: You damn him for not releasing them. You damn the media for covering the scandal. So, if holding the images is wrong, and releasing the images is wrong, what exactly should be done?

Nobody should hold views that cannot stand in the presence of dissent. Fortunately for you, this country is founded on the premise that all people are free to believe what they want, and free to present their views in an open and fair forum. So continue to believe what you want to believe, but to become a more complete person you really should allow yourself to let those views be tempered with those that are in opposition to them.