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i believe the tires with open tread line down the center are the ones that tend to do it more. tires like my toyo t1s or i suspect the goodyear g1d3(if this is the right model) and yoko avs dont do it...lack of center line tread
Hugo AIM:omegazodiac
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Most tires with just the single center line are performance tires and yes they tram line much more than other tires. And of course low profiles of any sort do it more than non-low pros.
98.5 SVT
91 Escort GT (almost sold)
96 ATX Zetec (i brake to watch you swerve)
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i gotta say, the stock kdw tram lined alot. the t1s i can probably count with one hand the # of times its done it and even then i may have a few extra fingers left over. i love them
Hugo AIM:omegazodiac
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Originally posted by Big Jim:
You won't solve the inside edge wear problem until you reduce the negative camber. I played with the toe setting for some time before installing the camber adjusting kits. Now the tire wear is extremely even. At least that has been my experience.
Jim, I agree with you that the negative camber can wear the inside edge, but I would tend to think the wear would be even across the block and not saw tooth pattern wear the leading edge is higher than the rear.
For comparison I look at my Mustang that has a more aggressive alignment setting then the Contour. The front tires have ~20K miles and never been rotated. I travel the same highway and the settings are: -1.5 degrees Camber, 4 degrees Caster with 1/16" Toe. I see no signs of uneven tire. I do have to mention the Mustang has front control arm bushings made of an aluminum and derlin plastic combination which eliminates deflection.
My CSVT has had this tire wear problem from the day I bought it to the current 75K miles racked up on now. My original set of BFG KDW tires kissed off short of 30K and could have gone a lot longer had the wear been even. Next wear the BFG KDWS which developed wear signs after 10K miles. The asymmetrical design allowed me to change direction by switching sides, but that didnā??t help much. Alignments have been performed several times to factory spec.
Iā??m on my 3 set of tires now and back the BFG KDW. These have recently been dismounted and switched to the other side of the car to allow the once outside edge to take the abuse. Wheel bearings were also just replaced and the alignment done as mentioned above. I'm hoping the Toe setting at least helps slow the wear down.
My rear tires don't suffer with the wear pattern, so if I had to guess what the problem is, I'd have to say it's either A). the toe-out setting in combination with all my sustained highway driving at 70mph or B). the assclown inspired redesign of the front control arms to incorporate a vertical bushing configuration.
Well, that about sums it up. I appreciate the feedback and I will keep the CEG members posted after I log some miles. So until then I'm still keeping my fingers crossed... 
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1989 Mustang GT
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No matter how well I kept after my toe settings, I continued to have inside edge wear problems of one type or another until I installed the camber kits. Now the tires are wearing extremely evenly.
There are too many differences between the Mustang and the Contour to make direct comparisons. Often alignment must be set by reading the tire wear as well as looking at the specs. What works on one car may not work on another.
What I'm trying to say is that alignment is not all science, there is still some art to it.
Jim Johnson
98 SVT
03 Escape Limited
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