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I have 2 new issues with my '97 2.0. First, the easy one. I have developed a trouble code(stored) of 461. This number is not listed in my Haynes or Chilton. Any ideas? Also, on a related note I am throwing a 172 code, is the O2 sensor to blame? Hope so. Anyway, the second and most severe issue just popped up today while the wifey was driving home. The car feels as though the transmission just quits on it. Engine revs way up, car slows down and then BANG! snaps back into a gear (usually not the righ one) and continues on. Drove it 5 miles and feared I would not make it home. Really weird. I was reading about maybe a sensor of some sort, but that was on the V6's, mine is a I4. Any ideas would be most appreciated. BTW, anyone know how much a total rebuild would be on my tranny? Thanks in advance.
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Also, can anybody tell me what transmission I have. Is it the CD4E or something else? Thanks.
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the CD4e is the Automatic trans. the MTX-75 is the manual trans, you have the CD4E and that sounds computer or electronics related (tranny shifts funny)
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P0172 System Too Rich - Bank No. 1.
This is usually caused by misfires or a leaking injector.
Not sure what a P0461 is, but it appears to be grouped with the EVAP and fuel pump codes.
Before doing anything else, check the level of the transmission fluid. Low fluid levels will do that.
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As per
Jendham Inc OBD II reference guide (Technicians Handbook Series)
There is no P0461
NOTE: 1T or 2T indicates a one-trip or two-trip fault.
P0460
EVAP 2T
Fuel Level Sensor Circuit Conditions:
Engine Running, then PCM detected that the FLI sensor signal did not match the fuel level. (Scan Tool Tips:
A FLI V PID at less than 0.90v with a FLI PID at 25% OR a FLI V PID at more than 2.45v with a FLI PID at 75% indicates a fault.
OR
P0460
EVAP 2T
EVAP System Small Leak Conditions:
Cold Startup, engine running at off-idle conditions, then the PCM detected the presence of a small leak (a leak of more than 0.040") in the EVAP System.
HTH
Ray
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as you hinted on, there is a sensor on the automatic tranny.. (shift selector sensor????)
that goes bad and causes hard upshifts and random neutral shifts....
~$35
Ray
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Okay, took it in for a check up and now have more questions than answers. First of all, if it is the sensor, would it put out a code? None recorded. Second question, after driving it home I noticed that it "freaks out" only randomly or after the tranny is warmed up. Normal? While driving it I also noticed that it only freaks out above 45 mph (after shifting to 3rd) then it sometimes picks back up at about 55. Would this indicate something wrong with the clutches? The guys who did the work (fluid flush, filter and fill) think that it is "slipping real bad" (their words). I will get this sensor installed sometime this weekend and post the out come on another thread. If anyone who has had this same experience could chime in and lend some moral support and knowledge, that would be most appreciated. Thank you.
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im curious, have you done the throttle hang fix yet?
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My first suggestion would be a couple of 4 quart drain & fill proceedures within a few days of each other, then a third one a week or two after that. Cheap, easy, and will likely help. If the problem persists, swap the above mentioned sensor for a new one.
Finally, put a tranny cooler on that thing!
Must be that jumbly-wumbly thing happening again.
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