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#975887 06/09/04 05:33 PM
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On a Zetec

What if you bank a turbo off of Piston 2 and 3 only.
Would it work?


Manifold cut, custom pipes from 2 and 3 ran to the right, batt & holder removed and in trunk, custom plate, into turbo, turbo to frontmount.. etc.


Or would this have adverse affects?
The reason for only using 2 and 3 is they move at the same time. Less boost ability, but same outcome in the long run, less stress.

It would be like a loop, and since the waistegate and bov dispose of exhaust, then it would not be contained closed, ovbiously. Along with 1 and 4 Routing to 2.5 inch exhaust, with highflow cat at resonaters spot, and 1 chopped SVT outlet.

Im only talking a small turbo, off of a TSI talon, or so, with about 2 - 3 lbs and maybe 5 lbs, but 10 to 1 ratio is bad bad bad...


Would the stock internals take 2-3 lbs? an ocasional 5?

Or would wet nitrous 35 - 50 be a better alternative.

Based on:

Saftey of the car mechanically
Eficiency
Assuming cost isnt included..


Just an idea..



Ill go ahead and myself, incase anyone else wants to. lol, I was thinking about it.. While im stationed in the air force, id have time to work on my car, and im determining if I should do a Nitrous setup, or a Small turbo for fun..






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I don't think a turbo on only two of the cylinders would work. Also, the zetec can handle more than 3-5lbs of boost. More like 9-10 with only minimal fuel system changes. It can handle more with a built engine and more fuel management,etc.
A properly setup nitrous system (with a 50hp shot or more) with a flip switch would be much more effective (performance and cost wise) as opposed to a ghetto rigged two cylinder turbo.


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LMAO.. aaite


I was wondering..


my car has 64,000 miles.. I was weighing my options.. lol


So it should spool off all 4..

(yeah it was a ghetto idea)


but the stock zetec can handle upwards of 10.. w3rd.. ima have to look into all of this..



So on a prospec B i sould put low @ 5 and high @ 10.. new injectors, fuel pump, and a good fuel curve with rich settings w/ high octane without detonation?

sweet.. I know what ima do after bootcamp..

keep the info comming.. kermit, your funny as hell..


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I would of edited, but time up..


I guess thats pretty much the end of this "concept". LoL.. you never know till you ask, right?

I dunno.. It was a stupid idea in a way, but not really. Just an idea.. Im going to definately do this.. So thanks for all the info, and im searching old posts to read up on this. Any suggestions / comments would be apprecieated.

thank you!


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As far as damage to the engine goes, it certainly doesn't come from pushing exhaust through a turbine. So, that should eliminate the 2 of 4 cylinders idea right off the bat. I don't think the engine would act well w/ 2 cylinders pumping a turbine, either.

Never hurts to ask.

I don't know much about the zetecs' boost capabilities on a stock fuel system, but I'd be very surprised if it couldn't handle 5 psi.


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ok.. then turbo atx it is.


I just have a crazy obsession with boost.. I love cars with boost. the way they sound / feel..

And I love my contour..
and all its problems.. I hate the problems.. but I love the wrenchtime and the experience to learn.

This place made me change my mind about junkyarding my contour.

Since my transmission is broken..


My plans
While in last month of bootcamp, send the money home to have it fixed. (transmission)

Out of bootcamp, drive the car to where im stationed. (don't know location yet)

Meet people that work on cars, and go junkyarding to gather parts. Use the tools available through the Air Force to install my turbo. Use 5 lbs - what I can get max w/out detonation

Turbo = fairly good sized, probally a talon TSI Turbo since they can put out 15-18 lbs max. (more then enough)

Innercooler
Mandell bent pipes
BOV
Waistgate

Turbotimer (to help it cool)
Prospect B (boost controller)
Apexi-SAFC II (control fuel curve etc)

Guages:
A/F Ratio
Boost Gague
Exhaust Temp

Thats to start with.. Then ill tear down the engion when i get extended leave, rebuild it with forged pistons, low compression, and other goodies. Finally update my fuel system.

Sound like a plan?

PS all 4 cylinders this time.. LOL


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The safc11 is useless without wideband o2 sensors or the same amount of money spent on a dyno.


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anyone going to mention that his atx will implode??
possibly pm russell and see if he can get a tranny modded for you or maybe look at a level 10 if they still do em


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Originally posted by 3LPOWER:
anyone going to mention that his atx will implode??
possibly



Not after he said he was planning to run a turbo off just 2 cylinders.

I figured everything else was moot at that point.


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Actually that was just an idea..

And if you look in the transaxel fourm I have a post on what is necessary for a Turbo Zetec ATX..

My transmission is broken ATM. Hence the questions, you only learn by asking.

Im not definately going to do it, afterall I might just get a SVT SE, or something besides a FORD..

I am merley inquiring about what would be necessary.




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