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Originally posted by PackRat:

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Originally posted by gwellington:

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Originally posted by gSto:

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Originally posted by gwellington:

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He changed America in the early 80's. After the true Christian guidance Jimmy Carter provided Americans on moral and human rights issues during his Administration, Ronald Reagan taught us that all that was wrong. He taught us that it was okay to be rich. He taught us it was okay to ignore, even hate, the disadvantaged. He taught us it was okay to think only of ourselves. He taught us that human rights was a joke, and that being a Christian meant being wholly un-Christ-like in our thoughts and deeds. For that he will truly be remembered.

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Someone woke up on the wrong side of the bed this morning and then passed up their wheaties

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I know one should never speak ill of the dead, but his Administration represented a sea change in this country. We used to care about one another. Now all we want are are our expensive houses and SUV's.

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Jesus [censored] Christ, you are truly a jackass. I'd expect this kind of stuff from pinhead ClubSi liberals but not here.

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^good call Pack Rat,
Move to Iraq [censored] face,dumb ass no respect having [censored]
are the problem with this country, please remove yourself from the geene pool.

Originally posted by gwellington:

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He changed America in the early 80's. After the true Christian guidance Jimmy Carter provided Americans on moral and human rights issues during his Administration, Ronald Reagan taught us that all that was wrong. He taught us that it was okay to be rich. He taught us it was okay to ignore, even hate, the disadvantaged. He taught us it was okay to think only of ourselves. He taught us that human rights was a joke, and that being a Christian meant being wholly un-Christ-like in our thoughts and deeds. For that he will truly be remembered.

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Originally posted by gwellington:

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He changed America in the early 80's. After the true Christian guidance Jimmy Carter provided Americans on moral and human rights issues during his Administration, Ronald Reagan taught us that all that was wrong. He taught us that it was okay to be rich. He taught us it was okay to ignore, even hate, the disadvantaged. He taught us it was okay to think only of ourselves. He taught us that human rights was a joke, and that being a Christian meant being wholly un-Christ-like in our thoughts and deeds. For that he will truly be remembered.

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Originally posted by gwellington:

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He changed America in the early 80's. After the true Christian guidance Jimmy Carter provided Americans on moral and human rights issues during his Administration, Ronald Reagan taught us that all that was wrong. He taught us that it was okay to be rich. He taught us it was okay to ignore, even hate, the disadvantaged. He taught us it was okay to think only of ourselves. He taught us that human rights was a joke, and that being a Christian meant being wholly un-Christ-like in our thoughts and deeds. For that he will truly be remembered.

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Ronald Reagan certainly DID change America in the early 1980s. He and his policies brought us out of the pathetic state we were in after four years of Jimmy Carter. Let's see, I believe the "Misery Index" was started when Carter was President... Under Reagan we had a booming economy. The computer industry, high tech, and many other industries took-off and grew like mad.

Another thing. It IS okay to be rich! How do you think this country became the greatest and most free country in the world?!? By everyone being a penniless third-world beggar? NO! By EVERYONE having the opportunity to make something of themselves, REGARDLESS of race, creed, class or anything else! In America it does not matter what "class" you begin life in. Through hard work and perseverence, you can achive virtually anything you set your mind to. (We could achive even MORE if taxes and government regulations were not so onerous... ) When was the last time you got a job from a poor person?

Reagan did NOT teach that it is okay to ignore or hate the disadvantaged. He believed that government is NOT the best way to help these people. Remember that "War on Poverty" thing? Looks like THAT'S really helped, after how freakin' many BILLIONS of dollars we've dumped into that rat-hole. HELLO! If people got to keep more of the money that they earn, they would have more to donate to charities and other agencies to help the less fortunate among us. America is by FAR the most generous country in the WORLD! How many gazillions of dollars do we give to other sorry-assed countries every year? EVEN when they turn around and spit on us and say we're not doing enough!

I don't know what crack you're smoking, but Reagan was one of the most God-fearing presidents we've had. Not one of these poser-Christians who makes sure he's seen by the media carrying a BIG Bible into church come election time, either. (Clinton, wannabe-Pres Kerry...)

Lets see, he also ended the Cold War -- by WINNING!!! And no, we didn't end up with nuclear holocaust either, as the whiners on the left feared. (Bush should take some hints from Reagan as to how to win a war by showing that we are not afraid to use every means at our disposal to win...)

You wanna talk human rights? Do you know what kind of a miserable hell-hole the people in the Soviet Union were living in? Is that the kind of existence you'd like people to endure? Now the former Soviet Union and, in particular many of their former little eastern-bloc states are enjoying more freedom and prosperity than they have ever known. Heck, we just admitted some of them into NATO! They KNOW what kind of Evil Empire the Soviet Union was. Maybe that's why many of them support our war in Iraq.

So yes, Ronald Reagan certainly did change America. He also changed the world.

Marty

Originally posted by Trapps:

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Originally posted by gwellington:

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He changed America in the early 80's. After the true Christian guidance Jimmy Carter provided Americans on moral and human rights issues during his Administration, Ronald Reagan taught us that all that was wrong. He taught us that it was okay to be rich. He taught us it was okay to ignore, even hate, the disadvantaged. He taught us it was okay to think only of ourselves. He taught us that human rights was a joke, and that being a Christian meant being wholly un-Christ-like in our thoughts and deeds. For that he will truly be remembered.

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Often I have read your political remarks and considered them in having some value; I even conceded some as valid and questioned my own views. Today, Mr. Wellington, I find none of these attributes in your comments. To suggest for one minute that the 'us' you refer to as being the collective citizenship of the united states of America were taught solely by one man, President or not, was to 'hate', 'ignore', and strive for a better life at the expense of others for ourselves sickens me.

General Secretary Gorbachev, if you seek peace, if you seek prosperity for the Soviet Union and Eastern Europe, if you seek liberalization: Come here to this gate! Mr. Gorbachev, open this gate! Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall.

We don't have a trillion-dollar debt because we haven't taxed enough; we have a trillion-dollar debt because we spend too much.

Welfare's purpose should be to eliminate, as far as possible, the need for its own existence.


I've spoken of the shining city all my political life, but I don't know if I ever quite communicated what I saw when I said it. But in my mind it was a tall, proud city built on rocks stronger than oceans, windswept, God-blessed, and teeming with people of all kinds living in harmony and peace; a city with free ports that hummed with commerce and creativity. And if there had to be city walls, the walls had doors and the doors were open to anyone with the will and the heart to get here. That's how I saw it, and see it still. -- Ronald Reagan

And how stands the city on this winter night? More prosperous, more secure, and happier than it was 8 years ago. But more than that: After 200 years, two centuries, she still stands strong and true on the granite ridge, and her glow has held steady no matter what storm. And she's still a beacon, still a magnet for all who must have freedom, for all the pilgrims from all the lost places who are hurtling through the darkness, toward home." -- Ronald Reagan



Show some respect for a man who did more for this country than you will ever even dream about. Voice your opinion, you're free to do so.

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Originally posted by gwellington:

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He changed America in the early 80's. After the true Christian guidance Jimmy Carter provided Americans on moral and human rights issues during his Administration, Ronald Reagan taught us that all that was wrong. He taught us that it was okay to be rich. He taught us it was okay to ignore, even hate, the disadvantaged. He taught us it was okay to think only of ourselves. He taught us that human rights was a joke, and that being a Christian meant being wholly un-Christ-like in our thoughts and deeds. For that he will truly be remembered.

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"The former Soviet Union and in particular, many of their former little eastern-bloc states are enjoying more freedom and prosperity than they have ever known"

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Originally posted by JVT:

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"The former Soviet Union and in particular, many of their former little eastern-bloc states are enjoying more freedom and prosperity than they have ever known"

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One can never understand how the fall of communism in a country is so dramatic and life-changing unless they've lived under it.

Never will I forget November, 1989.

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