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Ok, so change the word Communist to Socialist, or Liberal or "Progressive", because there is a core of support of some Americans, whether they realize it or not, that support these actions. This was entered into Congress in 1963.


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Does this get anyones attention? How many of these have already happend?

Where we are today goes far beyond our army against theirs, we have been there before.

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Not sure if I understand your point... are you saying that because some liberal values match some Communist values, leberals are Communists? If so, I could make a convincing case that Conservatives are Nazis


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Originally posted by Viss1:
Not sure if I understand your point... are you saying that because some liberal values match some Communist values, leberals are Communists? If so, I could make a convincing case that Conservatives are Nazis




Say the answer is yes. Make your "convincing case".

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Originally posted by Davo7SVT:
Say the answer is yes. Make your "convincing case".



You're missing the point, which is neither case can possibly be made to a rational person.

But since you took me seriously, one could start with ultra-nationalism, disregard of the disadvantaged, dislike of immigrants/foreigners, increased military spending, etc. It's about as solid a case as was made in the original link in the first post.

And before you counter with arguments that link the Nazis to the left, please be aware that IMO it's pointless to compare the party to either side of today's political spectrum. Hence my original comment.


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Not a very convincing argument for conservatives being Nazis. My point is that on that list of stuff, many have been accomplished or are well on the way to being accomplished and that there is a liberal agenda backed by Communism/Socialist ideas. As far as "ultra-nationalism", what's wrong with being gung-ho for the US? Hey, it's our country, it is the best place on Earth. Disregard for the disadvantaged? What so you mean by that. Next, the dislike of immigrants/foreigners, I don't dislike anyone, but what is wrong with asking them to be here legally. The last point you made was increased military spending. The reason you have lots of nice beefy weapons is so that you don't have to use them, it is for your safety and freedom. We don't use these weapons to take countries and make them US colonies, we respond to attacks on our country and if it happens to free these people of autocratic rulers, so much the better. If you have problems with the use of force to do such things and bring other people the freedom that they have never had, then you have problems. We are the strongest bastion of true freedom in this world and you should thank God that you live here.

About the NY Times sound bite, if you listened to it, they are saying the same thing now about us being in Iraq as they did about us being in Germany. The Left never changes. The NY Times is just about the biggest liberal mouthpiece out there. Read that list of Communist Goals again.


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Do understand that W. Cleon Skousen is a right-wing wacko who came up with what HE considered to be "Communist Goals" and then was shocked by them...and that there are a number of right-wing radio wackos out there today who embrace his thinking. None of which makes it true, relevant, or worth anyone's time. And if you think the NY Times is "liberal," read papers from other countries. The Guardian from the U.K., for example, makes the NY Times look like it's written either by Jerry Falwell or by Reverend Moon (oh, forgot, Reverend Moon and his Unification Church already control the content of the Washington Times--which I guess you think is "liberal media" too).

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KeithW, in your anti-liberal rage, you have completely missed my point. Kindly re-read the part of my post where I said "please be aware that IMO it's pointless to compare the party to either side of today's political spectrum."

As for the media issue, is the media not suppposed to report bad news?


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Originally posted by gwellington:
...The Guardian from the U.K., for example, makes the NY Times look like it's written either by Jerry Falwell or by Reverend Moon (oh, forgot, Reverend Moon and his Unification Church already control the content of the Washington Times--which I guess you think is "liberal media" too).






I've always lumped the Guardian right in with The National Enquirer and the Harry Potter line of books, given the metric tons of fiction and distorted fact that is smeared on those pages...


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Those weren't Communist goals.

The list was drafted exclusively by American conservatives during that time period to paint their political adversaries as Stalinist Communists.

If it doesn't show anything else, then at least it shows that Conservative rhetoric hasn't changed much in 40 years.


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Originally posted by Viss1:

As for the media issue, is the media not suppposed to report bad news?




There's a difference between REPORTING bad news and overemphasizing/exaggerating bad news. You almost never hear GOOD news stories, its always about the bad stuff.


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