Contour Enthusiasts Group Archives Forums Modifications Duratec Performance consensus on accusump + adaptor vendor?

I have to get off my butt and order this or it won't be here in in time for my track weekend. Was there a consensus on where to get the non-gravity-fed accumulator plus filter adaptor from, preferably same place to minimize shippin costs? Ideally the vendor would also have electronic pressure senders which could replace the analog gauge and would allow me to monitor the oil pressure remotely.
Eric

Jeg's www.jegs.com or Summit Racing www.summitracing.com both sell what you need. You have to get a Ford Sandwhich plate, hoses and a block bung for one of the ports coming out of the sandwhich.
Their shipping is free, but you pay a flat $7 for handling. Both also sell guages, senders, mufflers, aircleaners, ignition boxes you name it!

No to the gravity fed ones. They are cheaper but are mainly for dry sump setups.

Eric: Call me and I'll give you a couple of racing parts suppliers to get quotes from. You'll need to put together the specifics of your application as they only know the parts by thread sizes, AN plumbing sizes, etc. I can probably help out if you don't have this info. already.

I phoned Jegs, Summit, and a place called Racerpartswholesale.com today. Summit is back ordered on 1.5 quart Moroso unit ($180 for manual valve). Jegs has stock of the 1.5 quart Moroso at same price. Curiously the 3 quart units are $5 cheaper. Racerpartswholesale carry the Accusump - in stock at $170 for 2 quart unit with manual valve. Electric valves add about $100. Sandwich plates run at about $45. Mounting hardware adds about $20 in each case. So the BAT price is reasonable if you want the electric valve. Otherwise it looks like Racerpartswholesale is better. I may call BAT tomorrow to see if they would offer the manual valve version at a comparable price since they also sell the required tubing etc.

Just to confirm, I don't need a check valve if I'm running right off the filter mount, right?

Brad: I emailed you off-list.

Eric

Hey Eric, you replied to my post about a track day...when is yours and where?
I have a few more questions;
How important do you think the accusump would be for the track (three hours plus)...Im guessing it would be a good thing to have?
I do have an oil pressure gauge but havnt decided where to hook it up to(allen bolt on the head or sender unit)your opinion?
Which company are you looking to order from?
Do you have the thread size for the oil sandwich plate for the 2.5L Duratec?
Sorry about all the questions but I want the track day to go smoothly and want to be well prepared for any mishaps.
Thanks in advance
Alex 95 GL V6 was bone stock

Has anyone mounted an Accusump on an SVT. The SVT has the oil cooler which (I think) already has a sandwich adapter. Are we gonna have clearance problems with the oild filter.

// Chris Root
// '99 SVT

After moving my battery to the trunk, there is this huge hole up in the engine bay begging for an Accusump to be mounted right there ..... just a matter of time.

As far as shopping, try:
http://www.A1Racing.com/page032.pdf

O.K. - more update. I spoke with BAT to see if they could offer the Accusump with manual valve. I spoke with a very helpful and knowledgeable sales tech named Eric. He had concern about my plan to leave the valve open all the time - his concern is that the extra oil in the pan may take it to a level where the seals aren't meant to see a standing pool of oil and so may leak - similarly the oil may immerse something at startup that would object to the added resistance, especially in the cold. He didn't say that bad things would happen, just that it would be a risk that he would be willing to eliminate for the sake of $100. I guess the only way to decide if it's an issue or not would be to determine the oil level in the pan when the engine is off and then see where the level goes to with an added quart.

Q. Does anyone know where the bottom of the dipstick comes relative to the bottom of the pan?

As for running Accusump with an SVT, the problem is that the oil cooler bites into the room between the block and the frame. The cooler + sandwich plate + filter will fit, but there is not enough room to pull the filter back enough to remove it. He suggested that you could use the access hole for the pressure sender, but it's smaller than ideal. Ideally you would bore out that hole or drill a new one into the main gallery - yuch! I suppose a third alternative would be to mount the cooler and filter remotely. I too had wondered about plumbing in via the cooler since there are already input/output ports, but he didn't mention it as an option and I forgot to ask.

By the way, there are only about 6 Accusump units from BAT out there on Contours.

He did mention that they have had a look at the pan to see if they could figure out a) if starvation is likely to be a problem; and b) if they do anything about it. They came to the conclusion that I think we have come to on the list - the answer to a) is maybe, and the answer to b) is that without making up an oil pan from lexan there is no hope of deducing what the root cause of the problem is. You can make changes, but you're just guessing. So for now the Accusump is the safest solution.

Alex - I'm going to Mosport just outside Toronto in September. Back for the third time - as Chris Root warned me, it's addictive. I have run twice before there with no problems - may be a case of ignorance is bliss. Now that I know other's have had suspicious failures I think it's worth the peace of mind so that I can concentrate on the corner and not be worrying about my engine. Tough call. I go to these schools with a friend who has a 944 Turbo, also known for oil starvation - same conundrum - push your luck or pony up $. I can't give a definite yes/no. As for the pressure sender, my preference would be to hook it up instead of the analog gauge on the Accsump - closer to the pump than the allen key hole up top. I'm leaning towards BAT - I haven't found a cheaper system part by part elsewhere. As for thread size, no idea, but my understanding from other vendors is that there is a Ford standard - you seem to buy a plate based on manufacturer and is good for all (most?) models.

Eric

Thanks Eric for the info...
I think I will definately look into the Accusump, it could definately be worth it in the long run. Good luck on your track day
Alex