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Re: Weapon R headers #959844 05/22/04 04:30 AM
Joined: Sep 2000 Posts: 9,602 KC, MO D DemonSVT_dup1 Hard-core CEG'er
DemonSVT_dup1 Hard-core CEG'er D Joined: Sep 2000 Posts: 9,602 KC, MO	Originally posted by Jason43: I think 30hp is being a little optimistic. A little!!! ~~~ BTW there has been at least one reported failure of the Weapons-Rice knock offs on the NECO site. (also consider the WR headers have not been out that long either ) IIRC That person bought a set of MSDS to replace them. Remember the WR headers have NO warranty and are not a direct fit. If you think the MSDS set is SO MUCH more expensive. Consider this... You could sell the Y-pipe with the set for at least $125. Most likely more considering a non-coated steel cat-less Y-pipe is $150. They sell fast as lots of folks can not touch the main cat (emissions, inspections, SCCA, etc) and the MSDS unit bolts between the headers and the cat thus making it a legal change anywhere. 2000 SVT #674 13.47 @ 102 - All Motor! It was not broke; Yet I fixed it anyway.

Re: Weapon R headers #959845 05/22/04 09:20 AM
Joined: Aug 2002 Posts: 188 North Florida 9 98SVT_LEO CEG\'er
98SVT_LEO CEG\'er 9 Joined: Aug 2002 Posts: 188 North Florida	don't waste your money..get the msds......and be warned the oem manifolds are a pain in the butt......unless you want to drop the motor 98 CSVT #4214/6535 Mods: N/A and modded out

Re: Weapon R headers #959846 05/22/04 05:22 PM
Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 64 NJ C Cougar451 CEG\'er
Cougar451 CEG\'er C Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 64 NJ	Actually everyone seems to forget a few things about the price difference. MSDS ~ $700 (with extreme coating) Weapon R ~ $340 There is a $360 price difference...First of all Japanese steel is much cheaper than US steel and also is crappier. If you took the Weapon R headers and added everything that the MSDS headers had, there's be a smaller price difference. Weapon R base price is $340... Add: $200 for high temp X-treme coating $50 for install hardwayr $40 pre built MIL elims $XX for improper fitment... New total: $630 + Fitment... Ok...we know that MSDS's quality of steel is going to be better, weld quality is better, fitment is better, etc etc etc... So, you do the math... 99 Cougar V6 MTX...Plenty of mods My best mod thus far: Trans: Brand New MTX-75 with B1 gear set, Quaife LSD, 4.5 Final Drive, Spec Stage 1 Clutch, Spec Aluminum Flywheel...

Re: Weapon R headers #959847 05/23/04 07:09 AM
Joined: Jul 2002 Posts: 158 Eagle River, Ak. S svttour2002 OP CEG\'er
OP svttour2002 CEG\'er S Joined: Jul 2002 Posts: 158 Eagle River, Ak.	unfortunatly I had the MSDS headers on the car but I was going to sell it after I got it fixed from my electric short and so I took them off and sold them. Now I am keeping the car so I am looking for a new set. Yes they are a pin to do in the car but it only took me 3 hours to put the stock manifolds back in while the engine was in the car. I think that is excellent time since it took me almost 10 hours to put them on in the first place. 98 SVT 18" Enkei RS6's, NITTO 555 Extremes Intrax lowering springs K&N filter Sho-Shop Y pipe (without cats) Stock "gutted" manifolds Carbon Fiber Cowl hood Carbon fiber sail panels

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