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i drive a zetec...and that was an exxageration to make a point...i dont baby my engine, i drive it like it was designed to be driven...at every on ramp its 45MPH in 2nd gear...and she cant help but love it!

I know the s2k will get to redline quickly. That's not the point, I don't like it having to be at one million RPM to move. And yeah you can get over 300whp on a stock s2k engine, but not much higher at all, definitely not "well over".

And I've ridden in a 2002 Si, not impressive in any way. Wow, it has the same torque as my engine, which was designed over 10 years ago. For the money, there are so many better options. And from what a honda owner friend of mine was telling me (he has a pretty quick hatch, 8.9 in 1/8 mile) the new Si's are gonna be even less impressive.

We love you too troll.

Not much higher than 300whp? Yes. It's all in tuning and engine management. It's very possible. A fellow in Houston was running a turbo GSR motor in a hatch and a 10.9 in the 1320 was his quickest pass. Stock bottom end, stock compression (9:1 or so). He just tuned the heck out of it.

I think the 2002 Si is a joke. If that's your basis of experience, I don't blame you for being uninformed. I would never own that car. I'd rather have a Contour SVT.

The redline issue, like I said, is all about gearing. When you're in the car, the gearing compensates. When you need to downshift to second in the SVT to pass in the city, you do the same in the S2K. The Honda will just put you at a higher RPM to do it. No extra work by the driver is required. You also have a larger RPM band to work with and that can be a LOT of fun.

Dude, 9:1 compression isn't very high at all. I sure hope he could get some power outta the engine. Also, those hatches being light as a feather really make up for the lack of power most hondas have.


Yes, I under stand about the gearing, my mom's civic is slow as crap but will get off the line quicker than my car because of gearing, though it sucks on the highway and won't even top 100. I understand you like high revving engines, that's cool. I don't. And you say you have a larger RPM band to work with, though you really don't since you have to stay in the higher RPM range to move.

The S2000 for 04 addressed many complains about "high strung nature" low RPM grunt, etc. by increasing to 2200cc. HP remained the same @ 240 but peak power & redline dropped about 500 RPM, with peak torque only up about 10 lb/ft but with a wider torque curve.. Overall, engine reportedly much more flexable and without doubt improves the best mass produced 4-pot in the U.S..

They may(?) have reduced compression as well..good news for F.I. To bad the thing is so claustrophobic inside..

Not too tight for me.

And I believe dynos have shown the '04 to have gained a few hp.

Kremit: The reason you don't see any S2000 drag cars is because it is NOT a drag car. It's a drivers car. A roadster. And if you look across the ocean, you'll see plenty of race S2000's.

I can fit..but I'm 6'4 and 185 lbs & it feels like a "kiddy car".

That was a typing error. The stock compression ratio of the GSR is 10:1 and the ITR is 10.2:1. The 99-00 Si is 10.4:1, for comparison. Normally people will use high 8's or 9:1 compression when changing pistons for boosted applications. The 400~ whp hatch in Houston was using stock bottom end with stock 10:1 compression. The S2K uses 11:1 compression pistons which is still low enough to increase boosted output to over 300whp with third party engine management and a good dyno tuner. I don't know why this subject keeps coming up in this thread. It's very possible.

As far as being a "drag car," you don't see Corvettes or Cobras as drag cars either. The ones you do see have swapped out the IRS for a live rear axle. The S2K isn't a favorable platform for Honda drag racing.

Of all these cars, I would still take the C5 or the Cobra or the S2K, in that order. Hooray for torque.

YES like I agreed with you, the s2k can have over 300whp on a stock engine, but NOT much more. I found the internal upgrades to very limited for it as well. If I owned (I would sell it,,oops) I would just run nitrous on it with good computer/fuel management and call it a day.

I see many many many corvette and cobra drag cars. The real fast ones have swapped the axles, but I still see some pretty fast ones that haven't swapped. I don't see hardly any s2ks and none that keep up with any of the other vehicles mentioned.

Yeah, it's not a bad car, but there are better cars for the money that have much more flexibility , i.e: drag car or road car or a bit of both.

Oo, and I saw a bmw z3 with a slightly modded m3 engine in it yesterday. It ran a 13.5 in 1/4 mile but that was because it was a SCCA car, but it had the flexibility to be a decent drag car with different gearing and wheels/tires.