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Originally posted by 96RedSE5Sp:
I'm hopeful that higher gasoline price will encourage people to purchase sensibly-sized vehicles. (GM is already offering big rebates on the H2's).
If the streets will be made safer for myself and my family, I'd be willing to pay 5 bucks a gallon.
I think we have more to fear from jackass kids in souped up Civics than we do from Hummer H2's. I've had more close calls with riceboys than wannabe Schwatzeneggars.
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Originally posted by ODC:
This is a harsh response but:
Buy a different car then. Most likely a civic, corolla, echo, prius, or TDI.
Transportation isn't a static cost, if its necessary that you have private transportation, then find something that is within your means.
Hell I was going to buy a 2000 SS, but when I found out that insurance was insane ($4000/year) and with rising gas prices, I had to settle for a more 'economical' CSVT.
If I couldn't afford the gas on the CSVT, I'd most likely have gotten a TDI.
Just be careful, the car you are driving right now may be worth more in your hands than what you would lose on trading.
If you can sell privately, and then buy the new car, you MIGHT be able save some coin.
However, let's run the numbers. Let's say you have a Contour that you can get $5K in trade value for the car and you get 20MPG.
You trade it for a Civic that gets 40MPG, but costs $15K. Let's assume you own the Contour outright, so the $5K comes off the price of the Civic. I'll leave out sales tax and interest now too, but I'll address this later in the analysis.
Ok, real cost is $10K for the Civic. Let's assume that the Civic is $0.05/mile in maintenance and repair because it is brand new and the Contour is $0.10/mile for the same costs. Let's make insurance the same so we are just comparing apples to apples.
Finally, gas is $2/gallon for some nice round numbers. Total cost/mile for the Contour is $0.20/mile counting fuel, maint and repair. The Civic is half that at $0.10/mile.
How long until you save $10K?
100K miles, if I'm doing the math in my head correctly.
Now if you are paying any interest on that Civic car loan, you have to save more than $10K, etc.
Unless you buy a beater, buy a $5K Civic to replace a $5K Contour, it's hard to save any money buy purchasing a different car.
TB
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Must be that jumbly-wumbly thing happening again.
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Originally posted by BOFH:
Originally posted by ODC:
This is a harsh response but:
Buy a different car then. Most likely a civic, corolla, echo, prius, or TDI.
Transportation isn't a static cost, if its necessary that you have private transportation, then find something that is within your means.
Hell I was going to buy a 2000 SS, but when I found out that insurance was insane ($4000/year) and with rising gas prices, I had to settle for a more 'economical' CSVT.
If I couldn't afford the gas on the CSVT, I'd most likely have gotten a TDI.
Just be careful, the car you are driving right now may be worth more in your hands than what you would lose on trading.
If you can sell privately, and then buy the new car, you MIGHT be able save some coin.
However, let's run the numbers. Let's say you have a Contour that you can get $5K in trade value for the car and you get 20MPG.
You trade it for a Civic that gets 40MPG, but costs $15K. Let's assume you own the Contour outright, so the $5K comes off the price of the Civic. I'll leave out sales tax and interest now too, but I'll address this later in the analysis.
Ok, real cost is $10K for the Civic. Let's assume that the Civic is $0.05/mile in maintenance and repair because it is brand new and the Contour is $0.10/mile for the same costs. Let's make insurance the same so we are just comparing apples to apples.
Finally, gas is $2/gallon for some nice round numbers. Total cost/mile for the Contour is $0.20/mile counting fuel, maint and repair. The Civic is half that at $0.10/mile.
How long until you save $10K?
100K miles, if I'm doing the math in my head correctly.
Now if you are paying any interest on that Civic car loan, you have to save more than $10K, etc.
Unless you buy a beater, buy a $5K Civic to replace a $5K Contour, it's hard to save any money buy purchasing a different car.
TB
Which is why I stated within your means.
Let's face it, a 2.5L V6 isn't the economical engine configuration out there.
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Originally posted by Stryker:
how much is gas where you are? here it just hit 2.09. it costs me 28 bucks to fil up at that price. and yes thats regular. dont ask me exactly where i live... ill just say east coast.
wow at 2.33 for plus, i filled my tank from the last drop i had for $30.00
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Originally posted by BOFH:
Originally posted by ODC:
This is a harsh response but:
Buy a different car then. Most likely a civic, corolla, echo, prius, or TDI.
Transportation isn't a static cost, if its necessary that you have private transportation, then find something that is within your means.
Hell I was going to buy a 2000 SS, but when I found out that insurance was insane ($4000/year) and with rising gas prices, I had to settle for a more 'economical' CSVT.
If I couldn't afford the gas on the CSVT, I'd most likely have gotten a TDI.
Just be careful, the car you are driving right now may be worth more in your hands than what you would lose on trading.
If you can sell privately, and then buy the new car, you MIGHT be able save some coin.
However, let's run the numbers. Let's say you have a Contour that you can get $5K in trade value for the car and you get 20MPG.
You trade it for a Civic that gets 40MPG, but costs $15K. Let's assume you own the Contour outright, so the $5K comes off the price of the Civic. I'll leave out sales tax and interest now too, but I'll address this later in the analysis.
Ok, real cost is $10K for the Civic. Let's assume that the Civic is $0.05/mile in maintenance and repair because it is brand new and the Contour is $0.10/mile for the same costs. Let's make insurance the same so we are just comparing apples to apples.
Finally, gas is $2/gallon for some nice round numbers. Total cost/mile for the Contour is $0.20/mile counting fuel, maint and repair. The Civic is half that at $0.10/mile.
How long until you save $10K?
100K miles, if I'm doing the math in my head correctly.
Now if you are paying any interest on that Civic car loan, you have to save more than $10K, etc.
Unless you buy a beater, buy a $5K Civic to replace a $5K Contour, it's hard to save any money buy purchasing a different car.
TB
Remember also the CSVT takes premium. So that saves some money. And $15k is about what a NEW base civic costs, can't really compare a 5+ year old car to price of a new one. So even if you get a newer one, let's just say $10-$12k. So it would pay off a little quicker than you think. Personally I don't think the trade-off of losing a well performing, good looking, nice sized car is worth it just to save some gas money.
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i just filled up today, i waited until my car ran out. as i pulled into a quiktrip, the car stalled on an incline into the gas pump area. i ha to push it over to the pump. 
it ended up being 23.44 for a full tank of gas...ouch.
im used to paying 15-17.
BTW are you saying i will never see gas below 1.80 again? if so i am having my chip installed...
Last edited by Stryker; 05/22/04 04:59 AM.
Regards, Cole.
Relegating to troll status sometime this week.
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Originally posted by Stryker:
BTW are you saying i will never see gas below 1.80 again? if so i am having my chip installed...
Not this year, no, maybe never.
-J
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ok, in it goes... 
Regards, Cole.
Relegating to troll status sometime this week.
New Whip: 1990 Lexus ES250.
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