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Originally posted by SleeperZ:
Originally posted by PackRat:
I move to change the name of Massachusetts to Homochusetts.
And to the people lamenting the intolerance. [censored] you. I'm sick of being required to "tolerate" every freak of nature that comes down the pike. Next thing you know we'll have to "tolerate" pedophiles, necrophiles and zoophiles as "life choices".
Well atleast you recognize that gay is due to nature and not choice, but a freak of nature I think not.
Homosexuality has been around (proven) along time and I would think since shortly after the begining of man.
It has appeared often in the animal world as well.
Infact it is increasinly showing up in the animal kingdom.
And nobody is telling you to tolerate, preach your prejudice all you want, just don't practice it.
Removing the blinders and trying to see something from another angle or point of view would be open minded which as most of us know leads down the godless path of liberalism! Watch your step Pack it's a slippery slope!
Cast your labels to the wind and come over to the dark side!:D
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Originally posted by PackRat:
I move to change the name of Massachusetts to Homochusetts.
And to the people lamenting the intolerance. [censored] you. I'm sick of being required to "tolerate" every freak of nature that comes down the pike. Next thing you know we'll have to "tolerate" pedophiles, necrophiles and zoophiles as "life choices".
it's people like you that continue to perpetuate the "conservative" stereotype, and push some of the fence sitters over to the dems side. good job!
it doesn't matter much anyways.... a couple more generations and all of this will be old news. i'm hoping race issues will be as well. it's a small world after all 
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Originally posted by PackRat:
I move to change the name of Massachusetts to Homochusetts.
And to the people lamenting the intolerance. [censored] you. I'm sick of being required to "tolerate" every freak of nature that comes down the pike. Next thing you know we'll have to "tolerate" pedophiles, necrophiles and zoophiles as "life choices".
I agree with you 100%, I am strongly against marriage for my personal moral reasons. I don't think they should have legalized gay marriage. Contrary to what was stated, people with conservative views that you have, and I share need to state their opinions and not worry about the P.C. police.
Hell, whats next, transvestites in the olympics? Oh wait, thats allowed now too... (different topic all together)
But that aside, I think there is a far worse issue with the gay marriage discussion. That is the creation of laws from the bench. When a law can't be passed by popular vote, which is typically the case with issues like gay marriage, abortion, etc. the affected group will get the judical branch to in effect make laws that suit their needs. This is further helped by the appointment of liberal minded judges to high courts.
I think that we need to make the judicial branch more accountable for what it does from the safety of life, or long term appointments to office. How, honestly I don't know. But I do think it is something that needs to be looked into; though I really don't think anything like this will ever happen, they are far too content with the power they are giving themselves. -Nick
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I figure:
-Straight people killed the "sacrament" of marraige a long time ago, so why the heck not, it's not like all straight people stay married and have kids....
-Proportionally I know a lot more gay couples that are successfull in their relationships and their own lives...
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Originally posted by 99blacksesport:
Originally posted by PackRat:
I move to change the name of Massachusetts to Homochusetts.
And to the people lamenting the intolerance. [censored] you. I'm sick of being required to "tolerate" every freak of nature that comes down the pike. Next thing you know we'll have to "tolerate" pedophiles, necrophiles and zoophiles as "life choices".
I agree with you 100%, I am strongly against marriage for my personal moral reasons. I don't think they should have legalized gay marriage. Contrary to what was stated, people with conservative views that you have, and I share need to state their opinions and not worry about the P.C. police.
Hell, whats next, transvestites in the olympics? Oh wait, thats allowed now too... (different topic all together)
But that aside, I think there is a far worse issue with the gay marriage discussion. That is the creation of laws from the bench. When a law can't be passed by popular vote, which is typically the case with issues like gay marriage, abortion, etc. the affected group will get the judical branch to in effect make laws that suit their needs. This is further helped by the appointment of liberal minded judges to high courts.
I think that we need to make the judicial branch more accountable for what it does from the safety of life, or long term appointments to office. How, honestly I don't know. But I do think it is something that needs to be looked into; though I really don't think anything like this will ever happen, they are far too content with the power they are giving themselves. -Nick
The whole abortion issue is way beyond this so please dont bring Another topic into this already mixed up thread.. Lets keep it somewhat on track.... But on a side note.. Until you can have a baby who are you to tell a woman when and where to create one... I do not believe in abortion.. I am against it but Until you give up your body for 9 months...morning sickness bed rest, preclampsa (sp), Dead beat dads, or being the only person responsible to take care of that baby phyically and emotionally Or push out a 9 pound kid... grr nevermind you wont get it anyway
Back on track... Your can have your opinon no matter how ignorant it is... Who the are you to tell anyone their life is immoral? Dont be P.C but there is a way to be decent about the subject.. You make gay people sound like animals.. Like they are not contributing members of society...Like I said before... If gay people getting married makes your marriage and less you have bigger issues to address.....
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Marriage ain't marriage anymore...well, thank goodness it has changed. Remember the so-called good ol' days? Marriage was basically an economic proposition, the women needed a man to "bring home the bacon." Men needed women to pop out babies every few years to provide some more hands out in the fields. There were no ways out for women in these old timey marriages(economically women were stuck, and many were living with physical and mental abuse-marriages were hardly egalitarian affairs). The roles for husband and wife were fixed by society through such institutions as church and government.
Today, our expectations for marriage are different. No longer do we need marriage in order to have children or economic security. Women are now viable players in the economic arena(although some advancement is still sorely needed). Marriage is now tied more to individual's emotions and self-wants than to old, traditional roles of husband and wife. That is why divorce rates are high, as we now can simply move on if the relationship no longer satisfies our desires or expectations. However, marriage still represents figuratively a great level of commitment in our eyes that simply the act of "just living together" does not contain. This is what many in the gay community want, the ability to forge such a commitment in their own relationships.
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Originally posted by MxRacerCam:
it's people like you that continue to perpetuate the "conservative" stereotype, and push some of the fence sitters over to the dems side. good job!
Any person who would take what I said as a reason to climb off the fence to the democrat side is a moron who the Conservatives can do with out. Good riddance to bad rubbish.
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Originally posted by 98 SE:
Agreed. Unfortunately, both NH and CT refuse to recognize these MA marriages (although RI will recognize them). Pity the intolerance.
FYI! 
EDIT: Also, I thought this was a very interesting survey on the 750+ couples that applied for a licence yesterday. It was on the front page of the Globe this AM.
http://www.boston.com/news/specials/gay_marriage/articles/2004/05/18/survey/
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Originally posted by bishop375:
Originally posted by PackRat:
I'm sick of being required to "tolerate" every freak of nature that comes down the pike. Next thing you know we'll have to "tolerate" pedophiles, necrophiles and zoophiles as "life choices".
The difference being in the three groups you mentioned here, there is a clear victim- one who cannot neither accept or reject the advances of the other party involved. You're also dealing with groups of people who are usually deranged in one way, shape, or form. There is strong obsession and mental illness associated. And, in some ways, it IS a "life choice." Being gay is NOT a choice, no matter how you try to argue that.
Yet the gay community gives groups like NAMBLA credibility by allowing them to march in Gay Pride parades. Giving them that and a voice is the first step to allowing them to claim legitimacy.
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