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Originally posted by PDXSVT:
(Flame suit on) I'm surprised Fox found a token liberal willing to legitimize Hannity by agreeing to appear with him. Even a thoughtful conservative like George Will would take a hot soapy shower and go for a medical check-up after sitting in a room close to Hannity.
Actually, all Colmes does is make himself look like a fool compared to Sean Hannity. Theres been a few times they have agreed, however...
And if people like Rush Limbaugh (self admitted NOT news), Sean Hannity, etc are so off base with reality, tell me how they are adding markets left & right while Air America, and other liberal talk shows are loosing markets and entire shows are going off the air??
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Originally posted by 99blacksesport:
And if people like Rush Limbaugh (self admitted NOT news), Sean Hannity, etc are so off base with reality, tell me how they are adding markets left & right while Air America, and other liberal talk shows are loosing markets and entire shows are going off the air??
The Republicans get talk radio.... the Dems get everything else.
That's why we have to balance it out in the government... the republicans get all the money and tax cuts, and the democrats get nuthin.
Oh wait... it doesn't really work like that, does it?? damn... 
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That's why we have to balance it out in the government... the republicans get all the money and tax cuts, and the democrats get nuthin.
Bwahahahahahahahahaha.
I don't care if that's true or not. It's still hilarious to me.
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Originally posted by 96RedSE5Sp:
The last times I had a chance to watch Fox, Sean Hannity and some other "expert" were claiming that the whole Iraqi prisoner abuse scandal was solely and totally the result of 10 misguided low-ranking soldiers and that once we removed these 10 bad apples, everything would be fine.
I think they were serious but I can't imagine that even Hannity believed this line of BS.
H&C is a news analysis program. It is not a news broadcast. Each of them will have their 'take' on things, both can be somewhat extreme points of view, but I do view it as a good learning tool. The Fox news broadcasts are far more balanced as a whole. The broadcast networks like CBS, NBC, & ABC have significant slants in the way they present stories. That is where I have a problem with them. 1/2 a story is not journalism.
Must be that jumbly-wumbly thing happening again.
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Fox tends to give multiple views, but I won't go so far as to say that it doesn't have a particular slant. It definitely favors a more conservative view-point.
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Gee, I guess you're right to compare a several week old start-up to an established show like that of Rush who's been around forever in media terms.
So how often do Rush, Hannity and Savage appear on wide spectrum shows with a mix of articulate guests like The McLaughlin Group? Could they hold up in such a format?
That Rush and Hannity have a core of listeners that's "big" in AM radio terms: do you mean to suggest that makes them or their listeners mainstream and in the middle?
Are you even old enough to remember William F. Buckley, Jr.? If you are, then I ask you: doesn't Hannity embarass himself in comparison to the standard set by Bill Buckley?
And can we agree: Mr. Colmes will never be confused with Daniel Patrick Moynihan, whose IQ was "perhaps" over 80 despite his being a democrat.
From my viewpoint, Hannity and Colmes are BOTH weak for their causes. That Hannity fans like him does not favorably impress me about his fans.
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Nick, as much as I disagree with you on pretty much everything, I'll give you this; you have an opinion. So many people today are so apathetic towards what is going on in the country and in the world. I applaud you for at least paying attention to what is in the news.
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Originally posted by PDXSVT:
...Are you even old enough to remember William F. Buckley, Jr.? If you are, then I ask you: doesn't Hannity embarass himself in comparison to the standard set by Bill Buckley?
It was quite dry, but Buckley did put on a civilized discourse, no matter what issue was being discussed.
I remember his last show; he went off the air as quietly and dignified as he came on the air (or so I've been told, since I never saw his first one).
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Originally posted by sigma:
Fox tends to give multiple views, but I won't go so far as to say that it doesn't have a particular slant. It definitely favors a more conservative view-point.
As I said, depends on which program you're watching. Fox news is DEFINATELY better presented. I can't count how many times the broadcast networks presented the "story, evidence, comments" for one side of an issue, while completely leaving out any contrary evidence or substantive rebuttals.
You don't even have to go into any particular story, just look at the coverage of Iraq over the last year. Forever focused on death, desctruction, chaos, and "widespread dissent". No coverage of the good things happening there, no mension that the larger dissenting group is lead by a mullah that has recently returned from exile in Iran for his extreme views, and the fact that many of his followers are Iranian & Syrian.
Almost a year ago, CBS did a poll of the Iraqi people that showed 68% wanted the U.S. to maintain a long term presence in Iraq. That poll got burried on their web site and was not reported in ANY of their news outlets, but at the same time the news reports were quoting politicians & "intillectuals" who indicated that the mojority of Iraqi people thought they were better off under Hussein and wanted the U.S. gone. Remember that?? They had direct evidence to the contrary gathered by their own staff but CHOSE not to report it.
Just last month, the Washington Post printed a story about the UN being notified of radio active stainless steel showing up in Europe for recyling. The IAEA tracked those shipments back to Iraq, and had satellite pictures of ENIRE buildings in suspected nuclear, chemical, & biological facilities dismantled & missing in the months before the war began. Not one broadcast news network picked up the story. The Post even had copies of IAEA letters & reports to back up the story.
That's a major deal. Things like that make the entire broadcast news industry suspect in my view.
Must be that jumbly-wumbly thing happening again.
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Originally posted by 99blacksesport:
Actually, all Colmes does is make himself look like a fool compared to Sean Hannity.
I couldn't agree more. This is quite obviously Hannity's show and Colmes is his little patsy.
Originally posted by 99blacksesport:
And if people like Rush Limbaugh (self admitted NOT news), Sean Hannity, etc are so off base with reality, tell me how they are adding markets left & right while Air America, and other liberal talk shows are loosing markets and entire shows are going off the air??
As PT Barnum once said "Nobody ever lost money underestimating the intelligence of the American public".
Lots of people have become quite popular spouting vile hate-filled untruths. Popularity is not necessarily an accurate measure of truth.
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