Originally posted by SVT Doood:
...See..you want it both ways.

I'll NEVER claim otherwise, given that we are the "power behind the throne" of the UN and have been for over a half-century.

There are entities in the UN that want to marginalize the US's impact on world politics for their own political and economic reasons. France is DEFINITELY one of them, at least under their current leadership...

As a citizen of this country, I'm held to the belief that we should prevent this as much as possible, especially if that means marching "out of step" on issues that WE consider paramount to our long-term security...

Originally posted by SVT Doood:
You want to "cry foul" that the Iraqi's didn't live up to the UN resolution, but then you want to dismiss that very governing body when "things didn't go our way." Sorry..you can't have it both ways.



The UN's a useful tool, no? We have had it both ways in the past and hopefully we will in the future when certain governments wish to use the UN as a platform of dissent to further their own wishes against ours.

Don't forget that a not-insignificant portion of the UN broke away and sided with us in this. Some did this to gain favor of the US under the Bush adminsitration, others did this because it was the RIGHT thing to do in their opinion.

Others (some Eastern European countries, for example) did it because they thought it was the right thing to do AND they are SICK and TIRED of the way Germany and France strongarm issues in the EU and are fed up with their "Do as I tell you to do, without question" pompous-ass attitude. They are no strangers to seeing their political and economic strengths get marginalized by France and Germany and their protectionistic policies.

In addition to doing what they believed was right, this was their chance at giving Schroeder and Chirac the middle-finger.

Originally posted by SVT Doood:
...You either play by the rules, or you are a rule breaker, OR you don't play by the rules. Take your pick...

Since we have the power and ability to do all three, this is precisely the position I want the US in. ALWAYS.

It's arrogant, its unfair and it sets us up for not being liked by those that are threatened by it. Tough.

Being on top is never easy, though it's a HELL of a lot easier than being on bottom or even in the middle...


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