hondas suck.. thats my opinion.. unless they have tons of money put into them and john force driving them, the svt should eat it and then crap it out.. i have a dumb friend who has a 5spd civic, not the si but he had head work done, new pistons, rods, blower, clutch, flywheel, header (those idiots say headers when there is only one), air filter (intake), ignition, fuel system.. and he only sees my brake lights when i spray.. i spent around $500 and he spent well over 5 grand...