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somebody i know wants me to help them(mainly b/c i just about have an electronic engineering degree) work on a car that runs on water instead of gasoline. he says that he has all kinds of info on it and knows what to do....in theary. i told him to count me in, but i kinda doubt that it is even possible. i guess it's a good thing that he is asking all engineers and one Dr. to help him....better than a bunch of hillbilly mechanics(no bad intentions to any hillbilly that may read this). does anyone know anything about this or any other ways of doing anything similar?
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For some ideas you might want to research the Stanley Steamer, built in 1906. This car was powered by water (steam) and from what I have read about it developed massive low-end torque. It's a very old classic car, Jay Leno has one. Anyway, it's a great example of using water to power a car.
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Is he talking about separating hydrogen molecules in the water? Are you talking about a hydrogen fuel cell?
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There is no energy efficient method yet developed to seperate oxygen from hydrogen. If there were we'd have no energy shortage for eternity. Fuel cells re-combine the gases and get a nice bit of energy in doing to. But to seperate them is another matter. If your friend has found a way to do this, he'll make Bill Gates look like a peon.... if the automakers don't have him eliminated first.... 
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he's not talking about splitting atoms. no Einstiens here. i said something about compressing it so i'm guessing that he means using water pressure to run it. but in the same sense, couldn't you just use air in the same matter. he's just trying to get a team together to work on it first. the exact idea and info has not been presented to any of us yet. i just wanted to know if anyone had already tryed and failed miserably. even if anyone knows of any websites with such info, it would help. thanks
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and the energy required to produce the pressure is derived from what, exactly?
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Yeah, one kid's dad here had a car that ran on plasma.  Water pressure is an interesting idea... almost like running a car like an old mill with a water wheel. Would be VERY interesting. Imagine the HP gain when it rains? :-) I'd forsee some problems with possible deposits left behind unless you're using aboslutely pure water, but, I may just be paranoid... or know what my local water tastes like 
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Are you talking about a fusion engine? Theoretically, the only containment able to holds a fusion reaction would be some type of super magnetic field. And cold fusion can't even be worked out theoretically.
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Originally posted by Nate'sTour:
There is no energy efficient method yet developed to seperate [sic] oxygen from hydrogen. If there were we'd have no energy shortage for eternity.
Not so. Yes, you get energy when you burn hydrogen, combining it with oxygen to form water. And yes, if you put energy into water in the correct manner, you can separate it into hydrogen and oxygen.
If all of this were exactly 100% efficient, then the amount of energy that you needed to put into a given amount of water to separate it into hydrogen and oxygen would be exactly equal to the amount of energy that you would get back out of it when you burned the hydrogen in the oxygen, turning it back into water.
There is no free energy here.
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Originally posted by Bob Blaylock:
Originally posted by Nate'sTour:
There is no energy efficient method yet developed to seperate [sic] oxygen from hydrogen. If there were we'd have no energy shortage for eternity.
Not so. Yes, you get energy when you burn hydrogen, combining it with oxygen to form water. And yes, if you put energy into water in the correct manner, you can separate it into hydrogen and oxygen.
If all of this were exactly 100% efficient, then the amount of energy that you needed to put into a given amount of water to separate it into hydrogen and oxygen would be exactly equal to the amount of energy that you would get back out of it when you burned the hydrogen in the oxygen, turning it back into water.
There is no free energy here.
i nead more power scottie... warp 9 engage...
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