So what I am gathering from this latest bout of posting is that if an action is expected out of a person/country/religion/etc. then it is acceptable, or at the very least ignorable? So if someone has been convited or robbery, and released from prison, robs again, it is somehow not as big a deal because it is expected out of them? No, it is even worse.

All these people are doing both here in America and abroad is looking for a reason to hate America. They have been struggling to find things to hate about us for a while now so they used our lack of morals, hollywood, etc as their reasons in the past. They have killed our people then, and they continue to do now. The only difference is now their actions are somehow being rationalized by not only themselves, but horribly by some in the U.S.

While the U.S. is supposed to be the leader in morals in the world today, that does not mean that some will fall out of line. When this happens, yes, there should be sanctions placed on these people. There is no need for the witch hunt that some people are calling for. Maybe Mr. Rumsfield knew about some indecencies going on over there, but there is no way I believe at this point that he authorized or apporved of them.

Sandman, I applaud you and what you are doing for this country, and I do my part not only on here but in my real life to protect the great name you and all your compatriots fighting for a great cause over there. It sickens me to think that the actions of a dozen or so soldiers can cause so much outrage and outcry or justice, in the meantime cases of beheadings, burnings, etc. go without the same outcry.

I agree with what you have been saying here too; where was this huge ammount of disgust in what Saddam was doing to his people before we got over there? In addition to what you have stated on here, I recently had the pleasure of meeting someone who was on leave in the U.S from a base I believe he said was about 70 miles north of Baghdad. The actions that he described to me about the actions of the people that we were there to liberate and protcet were absolutely sickening.

The people that did these atrocities to America are afraid of what we stand for; freedom. These people that are still fighting us are the same that had a "good" life under Saddam, being able to rape and take anything they wanted to from the civilian population. But now that the comman man has freedom there, they don't have their power that they used to have over them.

The U.S. is not the bad guy in these situations. A few of our soldiers might have done something they shouldn't have, but that doesn't make our cause any less worth fighting for. There are people in Iraq that are happy to have freedom; to not have to worry about Saddam getting a bug up his as$ to kill or rape someone. Saddam killed hundreds of thousands of people during his tyranical reign. Put things in perspective before you cry foul on what American soldiers did.

P.S. Oh and right now on Fox News there is an interview with an Iraqi citizen who got out of Iraq before Saddam telling America (I quote) "Wake up, stop worrying so much about the prisoner abuse scandals and put it into perspective..." "These prison abuse scandals have only given them some kind of rationalization to commit these murders..." Exactly what I and a few others have been saying for a while now... -Nick


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