Originally posted by Dan Nixon:
Originally posted by alexey:
i feel sorry for the US ppl though... i bet you that no matter how many people hate bush... next election they'll find a way to keep him as president.. which is sad....




I feel "sorry" for anyone who lives in a socialist society. Whether that includes Canadians or not, I'm not sure..

Just to add, though off subject..(venting..)
At a the 2004 Retroviral (HIV) conference I attended, the Canadian ambassador to the UN was giving the opening talk. He spend 30 minutes embelleshing the generosity of the Canadians giving low cost HIV drugs to sub-Sahara Africa...This was PATHETIC enough considering nearly ALL these drugs under discussion were developed in the US, by US pharmaceutical companies, US citizens taking the risk by taking them first, and were NOW CHEAPER in Canada because 1) they are sold in Canada at lower cost..basically subsidized by AMERICANS, or were cheap generic rip offs by Canadian companies.

As if this were not enough he proceeded to chastise the US for not doing enough for global AIDs..only fleetingly mentioning the 15 BILLION that Bush promised to Africa for drugs and medical care, NO mention whatsoever of the fact that we are paying the VAST majority of the HIV Vaccine developement costs (many billions). It was all vailed and said with a smile but it was perhaps the most CONDACENDING speech I ever heard...

I have never though poorly of Canadians until that point (quite the contrary), but combined with recent knife in the back after knife on our position in the Iraq war (I do appreciate the help in Afganistan) I am SERIOUSLY wondering whats going on with your government.




Your facts are a little wrong here. Canada has cheap drugs because they are Government regulated. The same companies that sell the drug here, sell the drug in bulk to the Canadian Government to distribute.

Yes, the reason drug prices are higher here is to pay for the R&D.

However, your anger is very misguided.

It is COMPANIES (Not America) that provides these drugs to Canada at reduced rates. America has nothing to do with it. Its a supply and demand thing over there since it is all government regulated. If there is more than one drug that will do the trick, it goes to the lowest bidder. No different than a government contract over here. Because the companies are done with R&D on that particular drug, they lower the costs significantly because it is only a production cost at this point.

So, Canada is offering tons of AIDS drugs to Africa at the rate they are paying. Their ability to buy them cheap are from the PROFIT MAKING DRUG COMPANIES. Why would you be upset with a Country that is able to provide medicine at significantly lower costs because they have a NATIONAL HEALTH CARE SYSTEM????

Originally posted by Dan Nixon:
I hope most of the Canadian citizens are not cut from the mold that your politicians are..




Just like the REST OF THE WORLD hopes America isn't all like President Bush...

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