Originally posted by Rogerm60:
...And by the way, which member of our troops or which civilian was tortured and in what way ???



The irony that your Santayana quote fields here is just too sweet. To paraphrase it, perhaps those that forget history are also condemned to have it repeated for them???

Jessica Lynch ring a bell (rape and beatings)? The 4 contractors whose charred bodies were hung from a bridge, though not before they were beaten?

Isolated cases, you say? Yeah, about as isolated as the cases that are being plastered from here to kingdom come on the media outlets.

If playing rap music a touch loud and stripping prisoners down for candid shots is "torture" and is being touted as such (although some of what has been done is CLEARLY over the line and should be punished HARSHLY to serve as an example), perhaps we need to let Saddam Hussein loose and give him back his particular implements of "persuasion" to refresh the media's thoughts on what "torture" really is.

I'm sure he'd be more than happy to light up a fair number of his troops that failed his regime in protecting Baghdad...

Slicing people up with razors and throwing them in pits of sewage for days, pushing them off of 2-3 story buildings multiple times, women stripped naked and cigarrettes being put out all over their bodies, electric drills run through the hands and feet of prisoners and eyes gouged out, gang-rape of women and children in front of their kin...

The list is endless.

The US treats prisoners of war FAR better than many other governments. Period. Isolated cases of GI's or contractors getting downright abusive is just that; isolated cases and is the EXCEPTION to the rule rather than the RULE.

In terms of fairness to the concept of "torture", I want the pictures and videos of torture under the Iraqi regime played alongside the shots of what our troops or contractors have done. Just to serve as a frame of reference for those that are screaming "injustice" at the top of their lungs and are foaming at the mouth about US troop behavior in Iraq.

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