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Can anyone intelligently comment on the historical validity of this "report"? It is pretty long, so those of you with short attention spans need not even try.

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THE CLASH OF CIVILIZATIONS AND THE GREAT CALIPHATE by Larry Abraham, January 29, 2004


I urge all of my readers to make copies of this report and send them to your friends and relatives. The information is too critical to be over looked in the madness of this election year.

Watching and listening to the Democrat Party candidates is tantamount to enduring the Chinese water torture. The blah, blah, blah goes on and on and nothing of value comes out except the pain of listening to the same nothingness over and over again. I won't take the time or space to repeat what you have heard so many mind numbing times but what you have not heard is crucial.

President Bush and his administration spokesmen are not telling the American people what they really need to know about this "war." If they don't do that between now and November it may cost them the election.

The war against terror did not begin on September 11, 2001, nor will it end with the peaceful transition to civilian authority in Iraq, whenever that may be. In fact, Iraq is but a footnote in the bigger context of this encounter, but an important one none the less.

This war is what the Jihadists themselves are calling the "Third Great Jihad." They are operating within the framework of a time line which reaches back to the very creation of Islam in the seventh century and are presently attempting to recreate the dynamics which gave rise to the religion in the first two hundred years of its existence.

No religion in history grew as fast, in its infancy, and the reasons for the initial growth of Islam are not hard to explain when you understand what the world was like at the time of Muhammad's death in 632 AD.
Remember that the Western Roman Empire was in ruins and the Eastern Empire, based in Constantinople, was trying desperately to keep the power of its early grandeur while transitioning to Christianity as a de facto state religion. The costs to the average person were large as he was being required to meet the constantly rising taxes levied by the state along with the tithes coerced by the Church.

What Islam offered was the "carrot or the sword". If you became a convert, your taxes were immediately eliminated, as was your tithe. If you didn't, you faced death. The choice was not hard for most to make, unless you were a very devoted martyr in the making. At the beginning, even the theology was not too hard for most to swallow, considering that both Jewry and Christianity were given their due by the Prophet. There is but one God-Allah, and Muhammad is His Prophet, as was Jesus, and the pre-Christian Jewish prophets of the Torah (Old Testament). Both were called "children of the book"--the book being the Koran, which replaced both the Old and New Testaments for former Christians and Jews.

With this practical approach to spreading the "word" Islam grew like wild-fire, reaching out from the Saudi Arabian Peninsula in all directions. This early growth is what the Muslims call the "First" great Jihad and it met with little resistance until Charles Martel of France, the father of Charlemagne, stopped them in the battle of Tours in France, after they had firmly established Islam on the Iberian Peninsula. This first onslaught against the West continued in various forms and at various times until Islam was finally driven out of Spain in 1492 at the battle of Granada.

The "Second great jihad" came with the Ottoman Turks. This empire succeeded in bringing about the downfall of Constantinople as a Christian stronghold and an end to Roman hegemony in all of its forms.
The Ottoman Empire was Islam's most successful expansion of territory even though the religion itself had fractured into warring sects and bitter rivalries with each claiming the ultimate truths in "the ways of the Prophet". By
1683 the Ottomans had suffered a series of defeats on both land and sea and the final, unsuccessful attempt to capture Vienna set the stage for the collapse of any further territorial ambitions and Islam shrunk into various sheikhdoms, emir dominated principalities, and roving tribes of nomads. However, by this time a growing anti-western sentiment, blaming its internal failures on anyone but themselves, was taking hold and setting the stage for a new revival known as Wahhabism, a sect which came into full bloom under the House of Saud on the Arabian Peninsula shortly before the onset of WWI. It is this Wahhabi version of Islam which has infected the religion itself, now finding adherents in almost all branches and sects, especially the [censored].

Wahhabiism calls for the complete and total rejection or destruction of anything and everything which is not based in the original teachings of The Prophet and finds its most glaring practice in the policies of the Afghani Taliban or the [censored] practices of the late Ayatollah Khomeini in Iran. Its Ali Pasha (Field Marshall) is now known as Osama bin Laden, the leader of the "Third Jihad", who is Wahhabi as were his 9/11 attack teams, 18 of which were also Saudi.

The strategy for this "holy war" did not begin with the planning of the destruction of the World Trade Center. It began with the toppling of the Shah of Iran back in the late 1970's. With his plans and programs to "westernize" his country, along with his close ties to the U.S. and subdued acceptance of the State of Israel, the Shah was the soft target.
Remember "America Held Hostage"?

Thanks, in large part to the hypocritical and disastrous policies of the Jimmy Carter State Department, the revolution was set into motion, the Shah was deposed, his armed forces scattered or murdered and stage one was complete. The Third Jihad now had a base of operations and the oil wealth to support its grand design or what they call the "Great Caliphate".

What this design calls for is the replacement of all secular leadership in any country with Muslim majorities. This would include, Egypt, Turkey, Pakistan, Indonesia, all the Emirates, Sudan, Tunisia, Libya, Algeria, Morocco, Yemen, Syria, Lebanon, Jordan, Malaysia, Indonesia and finally what they call the "occupied territory" Israel.

As a part of this strategy, forces of the jihad will infiltrate governments and the military as a prelude to taking control, once the secular leadership is ousted or assassinated. Such was the case in Lebanon leading to the Syrian occupation and in Egypt with the murder of Anwar Sadat, along with the multiple attempts on the lives of Hussein in Jordan, Mubarak of Egypt and Musharraf in Pakistan. Pakistan is a particular prize because of its nuclear weapons. (Please note al Qaeda call

for the Islamic-militant overthrow of Musharraf in Pakistan on March 25, just yesterday.)

The long-range strategy of the Third Jihad counts on three strategic goals. First, the U.S. withdrawing from the region just as it did in Southeast Asia, following Vietnam. Second, taking control of the oil wealth in the Muslim countries, which would be upwards to 75% of known reserves; third, using nuclear weapons or other WMDs to annihilate Israel. A further outcome of successfully achieving these objectives would be to place the United Nations as the sole arbiter in East/West negotiations and paralyze western resistance, leading to total withdrawal from all Islamic dominated countries

Evidence of the Bush Administration awareness of this plan is found in the events immediately following the 9/11 attack. The administration's first move was to shore up Pakistan and Egypt, believing that these two would be the next targets for al Qaeda, while Americans focused on the disaster in New York. The administration also knew that the most important objective was to send a loud and clear message that the U.S.
was in the region to stay, not only to shore up our allies but to send a message to the Jihadists.

The attack on Afghanistan was necessary to break-up a secure al Qaeda base of operations and put their leadership on the run or in prison.

The war in Iraq also met a very strategic necessity in that no one knew how much collaboration existed between Saddam Hussein and the master planners of the Third Jihad or Hussein's willingness to hand off WMDs to terrorist groups including the PLO in Israel. What was known were serious indications of on-going collaboration as Saddam funneled money to families of suicide bombers attacking the Israelis and others in Kuwait.

What the U.S. needed to establish was a significant base of operations smack dab in the middle of the Islamic world, in a location which effectively cut it in half. Iraq was the ideal target for this and a host of other strategic reasons.

Leadership of various anti-American groups both here and abroad understood the vital nature of the Bush initiative and thus launched their demonstrations, world-wide, to "Stop The War". Failing this, they also laid plans to build a political campaign inside the country, with the War in Iraq as a plebiscite, using a little known politician as the thrust point--Howard Dean. This helps to explain how quickly the Radical Left moved into the Dean campaign with both people and money, creating what the clueless media called the "Dean Phenomenon".

By building on the left-wing base in the Democrat party and the "Hate Bush" crowd, the campaign has already resulted in a consensus among the aspirants, minus Joe Lieberman, to withdraw the U.S. from Iraq and turn the operation over to the U.N. And, if past is prologue, i.e., Vietnam, once the U.S. leaves it will not go back under any circumstances, possibly even the destruction of Israel.

Should George W. Bush be defeated in November we could expect to see the dominoes start to fall in the secular Islamic countries and The Clash of Civilizations, predicted several years ago by Samuel Huntington, would then become a life changing event in all of our lives.

What surprised the Jihadists following the 9/11 attack was how American sentiment mobilized around the president and a profound sense of patriotism spread across the country. They were not expecting this reaction, based on what had happened in the past, nor were they expecting the determined resolve of the President himself. I also believe this is one of the reasons we have not had any further attacks within our borders. They are content to wait, just as one of their tactical mentors; V.I. Lenin admonished..."two steps forward, one step back".

A couple additional events serve as valuable footnotes to the current circumstances we face: the destruction of the human assets factor of the CIA during the Carter presidency, presided over by the late Senator Frank Church. This fact has plagued our intelligence agencies right up to this very day with consequences which are now obvious. And, Jimmy Carter himself, the one man who must bear the bulk of the responsibility for setting the stage of the Third Jihad. Americans should find little comfort in how the Democrat contenders constantly seek the "advice and counsel" of this despicable little hypocrite.

Lastly, we should not expect to see any meaningful cooperation from Western Europe, especially the French. Since failing to protect their own interests in Algeria (by turning the country over to the first of the Arab terrorists, Ammad Ben Bella), the country itself is now occupied by Islamic immigrants totaling twenty percent of the population.

We are in the battle of our lives, a battle which will go on for many years possibly even generations. If we fail to understand what we are facing or falter in the challenge of "knowing our enemy" the results will be catastrophic. Imagine a world where al Qaeda regimes control 75% of the world's oil, have at their disposal nuclear weapons, legions of willing suicide soldiers, and our national survival is dependent on the good graces of Kofi Annan and the United Nations.

There is one final footnote which may be the scariest of all. Either none of the Democrats currently leading the drive to their party's nomination are aware of the facts of the Great Caliphate and Third Jihad or they do know and they don't care so long as their power lust is satisfied. But, I can guarantee you one thing for sure: some of their most ardent supporters are aware of this and will do anything they can to bring it about.

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Here is the original text here, along with info about the author.

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Here is PART II, released today:

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PART II (May 1, 2004)

Since writing the above, we have witnessed some frightening evidence in support of our hypothesis both internally and in other parts of the world.

The al Qaeda bombing in Madrid has emboldened our enemy into believing it can use terror as an instrument for democratic regime change. Based on what happened there, they may be right.

Kerry and bin Laden on the same page

John Kerry and other leaders of his party constantly refer to the United States as ??acting unilaterally.? They give no credit whatsoever to countries like Great Britain, Poland, Italy, Australia or even tiny Honduras for putting their limited armed forces in harm??s way to support the U.S. led coalition in Iraq. It is little wonder that some are considering doing what Spain has done??pulling out. The leaders in these countries have spent considerable political capital in this effort, and have little to show for it as it relates to fostering good will with the American public. Couple that fact with Osama bin Ladin??s latest offer of withholding attacks on those who ??quit? the coalition and you have all the elements for a Democrat party fostered ??self-fulfilling prophecy? where the U.S. will be totally alone in the pacification of Iraq. John Kerry and the Bush critics persist in the ??lie? of the U.S. going it ??alone? in Iraq but Osama bin Laden knows differently and will use the Kerry rhetoric to help isolate the U.S. The terrorists now see themselves as political ??king-makers?. They may be right.

Another aspect of the ??anti-Bush? political axis is how both his political enemies and the main stream media take ghoulish delight in ??the body count,? just as they did in the later days of Vietnam. Oh sure, they pay incidental homage to the memory of the young Americans who gave their lives in the greatest threat this country has ever faced, but they do so with all the sincerity of Madonna making a vow of chastity. As the body bags grow in number, they believe, so grows their political prospects. They may be right.

If the Bush administration is further weakened in the months leading up to the November elections, we will witness a heightened al Qaeda offensive in all parts of the world, including our own country, and especially in Iraq and nations surrounding it ,i.e., Pakistan, Jordan, Saudi Arabia and Egypt. Events within the past few days in Jordan not only make this argument but also point to the possibility of ??what happened to the WMDs.?
Iran and Syria are daily growing more overt and bold in their support of insurgents within Iraq, believing that Bush has been so hurt by internal politics that he is powerless to act against them in any meaningful way. They may be right.

The Leftwing initiative, Political Correctness and Our Will to Win

Within our own country we are witnessing and almost insane application of ??political correctness.? As the barbarism of radical Islam grows more apparent in the streets of the Middle East from Gaza to Basra, we see a cultural suicide taking place within our own schools and communities.

Our children are being taught from the Koran, our professors are preaching intifadah in their class rooms, and Muslim ??call to prayer? loud speakers are blaring out from city halls. The more precarious our very existence becomes, the more our liberal brethren embrace their enemies. It is a Stockholm Syndrome which can only lead to the recruitment of young Muslims who will be willing to duplicate in the West what their co-religionists are doing in the streets of Israel and the market places of Baghdad. The liberal P.C. crowd say nothing about the silence of the Muslim religious leadership as it relates to the carnage of innocents but couldn??t speak out fast enough against the inspiration supplied to tens of millions of Christians by Mel Gibson??s The Passion of the Christ. They were put off by the movie??s ??violence? and its alleged ??fostering of anti-Semitism?. Movies must represent their ??reality? as the real thing moves them not at all. Among liberal Jews in America, hatred of George W. Bush is only surpassed by their contempt for Ariel Sharon?Let them explain it, I am at a total loss to do so. Maybe they just miss seeing Bill Clinton smooching Yassir Arafat in the White House Rose Garden.

The ??Reverend? Jesse Jackson is now calling the U.S. ??guilty of crimes against humanity? as he sets out to mobilize the non-Islamic Left. None of the Democrat leadership says a word in opposition to Jackson??s treason or Hillary??s attacks on the President and U.S. policy in an Arabic newspaper, while in London. You can bet that al Jezeera didn??t miss a beat in their reporting of both events.

The campaign takes its toll

The campaign is seriously hurting Mr. Bush??s leadership role in the War on Terror. While ducking every new book critical of his initiative or trying to counter the partisan nitpicking of the 9/11 Commission, he has persisted in the misbegotten insistence of ??installing democracy? in Iraq. Our purpose for being in that beleaguered country should be restricted to one purpose and one purpose only, to stop the expansion of The Third Jihad and provide a base for doing same in the neighboring areas. This can be done by sealing the borders, attacking anything that moves in violation of same and by making it clear to Syria and Iran that any participation on their part will be considered an ??act of war?. Let the country be governed by the local tribes, [censored] in the south, Sunni in the central and Kurds in the north with a U.S. pro consul overseeing the military. Oil revenues could be spilt by population allocation. How about installing a Republic?it worked pretty well here with diverse populations.

The very idea that we should spend our sons and daughters blood or our tax dollars on trying to building a ??democracy? in the region which has neither a history nor a desire for such, is sheer nonsense. The very essence of Islamic teaching speaks directly against this principle. Continuing on the current path can only result in fostering greater hatred for the ??Great Satan?. Force is the only thing which is respected in that part of the world and this force need not be tied to ??reform?. I suggest Mr. Rumsfled acquaint himself with a copy of Julius Caesar??s Gallic Wars and Sun Tsu??s Art of War. All the tactics and strategies necessary to subdue the Iraqi insurgents can be found in those two military gems.

Please not the UN

Bringing the U.N. to the party will only compound the problem without adding any accountability. The U.N. has been accused of many things over the years, but being a ??democratic? institution has never been one of them. Just the latest scandal of the ??Oil for Food? program should provide any thinking person with all the evidence they need to keep the U.N. at bay. But this doesn??t seem to bother the likes of the John Kerry??s of the world who prattle on as if the scam doesn??t even exist.

Just one example will make my case; the UN mandate in Israel, which has been in place since 1948. One more salient point needs to be made on this subject. There is no such thing as ??The International Community.? There are only individual countries, each with its own agenda which is always self serving. The myth of a higher level of ??moral authority? coming out of the UN as been one of the greater lies of the past half century, but it is a lie which persists in spite of a bloody record of hypocrisy, graft, genocide and ??perpetual war for perpetual peace.? I have a suggestion for the 9/11 Commission:.Why don??t they look into what the UN was doing before the attack on the World Trade Center? If they do, they will find that exactly one week before, the UN was holding a Conference on Racism in Durbin, South Africa where the delegates voted overwhelmingly to condemn Israel, as ??racist and terrorist.? The U.S., Canadian and Israeli delegates walked out in disgust. Nary a word was uttered about Saddam Hussein, al Qaeda, or the Taliban, to say nothing of what was happening in Rwanda while they crunched caviar on toast and washed it down with vintage Champaign. Genocide does not qualify as ??racism? according to the UN ??morality.? Neither we nor the world needs the UN to muck up what is already a very delicate situation. If given proper leadership every Middle Eastern country named above will throw in with the Coalition, for if they don??t they will be the next targets of the Third Great Jihad and the Great Caliphate. Pakistan is already showing the leadership which others will follow. What do you think moved Kadahaffi to cozy up to the U.S. and Great Britain? He fears the Jihadist more than he hates us.

Evil Does Exist

Our current crises, in meeting the threat of the Third Jihad, is one more example of how most Americans simply refuse to believe there is evil in this world and are willing to grant moral equivalence on any human action. Unless the crime is personalized such as in the case of Lacy Peterson, we lose interest quickly and become bored or at least not involved.

To try and understand what we are facing, look into the eyes of your son or grandson and try to fathom a mind which would take pride in strapping a bomb to his body and sending him out to kill himself and countless innocent people. Or in the case of your daughter or grand daughter, try to imagine a religion which commands you to mutilate her vagina to destroy her sex drive or demands you to stone her to death if she has sexual relations with a man other than of your choosing.

If you can comprehend these facts both intellectually and emotionally, then you will start to understand what we are facing in the months and years ahead, both at home and abroad.

The radicals of Islam will stop at nothing to destroy us and all we stand for. They see this war as their ??entry to paradise? and a release from the miserable existence they have built for themselves within the confines of an evil and perverse religion. The Jihadist are NOT like us, nor most of their fellow Muslims. But, like terrorists everywhere they have silenced any criticisms from fellow Muslims through threat and intimidation and have, with the help of the ??useful idiots? in the West, ??created the appearance of popular support?.

If we are incapable of understanding these realities and acting accordingly, within the life time of everyone who reads these words, we will see our cherished way of like cease to exist and chaos become our lot. The Clash of Civilizations is now reaching out and touching all of us. May God grant us the wisdom and the courage to meet the challenge.



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Interesting read. I have always thought that there will be a clash of civilizations sooner or later, whether in the middle east or in China when that sleeping dragon wakes up. Whatever happens, I trust (however niavely) that whatever president is in office will take care of it. Before WWII the government was quite pacifist and only a (rogue) president had enough forsight to start getting things rolling so that we coudl do something about it. As we saw during/after 9/11 Americans, no matter how pig headed we are about things at times, will rise to the occasion when our core ideals (ie life, liberty justice) are threatened to point that makes us actually afraid. 9/11 was such a point and we did act on afganastan. However, Iraq was such a mess and seems so much more like a political/economical move that it gives the opposing view, liberal democrats etc a lot to work on. WWII didn't really have that as much there was good and evil. Today especially in Iraq, we seem as much of the bad guys as others, especially to the Arab people.
I wish that instead of invading Iraq, we would have finished the job in Afghanastan. the 80 or so billion that's been invested in rebuilding Iraq would have done so much for that country.
Anyway tough to say what's right or wrong now. We're in Iraq, we need to finish the job correctly. Marines without armor and not having any field choice about negotiatiions reminds me quite a bit about 'Nam. Next thing you know Rummy and Bush will be picking out targets to hit in the basemnet of the White House. I do think that Iraq was a justified war, the timing was lousy, and our tactics really suck. In war all plans go awry and you need to plan for that, It seems that the Bush administration had no clear plan for anything going wrong there. I know that it's only been 1 year that we've been over there and it'll probably take several years to get to a point that the place has setteled down. We'll see I guess.


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The author went a little extreme in PART II, talking about Islam in the schools, etc. I wonder where he got that. Also, I wouldn't say the Democrats are in with Bin Laden either, maybe just ignorant of the dangers that may lie ahead.


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Perfect Example of why Secular Humanism is the ONLY way that people can continue to hold on to their beliefs without attacking those who are different.


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Originally posted by cpurser:

Evidence of the Bush Administration awareness of this plan is found in the events immediately following the 9/11 attack. The administration's first move was to shore up Pakistan and Egypt, believing that these two would be the next targets for al Qaeda, while Americans focused on the disaster in New York. The administration also knew that the most important objective was to send a loud and clear message that the U.S. was in the region to stay, not only to shore up our allies but to send a message to the Jihadists.

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I think this an excellent article, I agree with much of it.

I really do agree that "jihad awareness" is behind the so-called "Bush doctrine" and I would add both Saudi Arabia and Jordan to the list of governments that Bush has reinforced against jihad. Bush has recieved substantial critisim for "not cracking down on the Saudis" but while not all of the Saudi royals are on our side, I think in general (given their delicate situation) they are as supportive as they can be. They have been much more agressive against the wohabiists (esp after Ryhad) and recently, it was reported that they were MUCH more supportive than we were lead to believe in the Iraq invasion. They are at high risk from AlQueada..same as the other afformentioned leaders, and I think we have seen a shift in the way they deal with militant Islam.

I agree that Bush has done a poor job of explaining this to Americans..

I agree with virtually all the characterization of Iraq and what our goals should be.

I agree FULLY with the UN accessment...as I have said many times here.


I think the treatment of Carter, Dean, Kerry & Dems in general was pretty rough and I do not believe they are willing conspirators. I do believe they (with some notable exceptions..Lieberman, Zell Miller, etc) lack awareness of what we are up against as was stated:
.."Either none of the Democrats currently leading the drive to their party's nomination are aware of the facts of the Great Caliphate and Third Jihad or they do know and they don't care so long as their power lust is satisfied".


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Does anyone else find Internet essays SO much harder to read than the same essay if its printed out? I can barely read anything longer than a few decent sized paragraphs on message boards , but If I were to have the same thing in hard copy form its no problem at all. Ill print this out , hopefully Ill read it.


Ive read pretty extensively on AlQaedas organization and goals , this just furthers that , although it may have too much opinion. Know your enemy

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Historically it's fairly accurate, though I wouldn't place every ounce of blame on failed US policy with the Middle-East on Carter's administration, and it glosses over centuries of Islamic history that would much more fully flush out an understanding of early events that were considered "jihads" or aggressive acts of fundamentalism as in the case of Iran's ouster of the Shah in '79.

I find that US understanding of what "jihad" is to Muslims is about as misunderstood as Muslim understanding of what "crusading" means to a Western mind.

Anyway...

The author is also being a bit myopic in that he's not considering that when you compare actions and reactions taken towards the Middle-East in terms of foreign policy, one has to look at it under the light of the Cold War with the USSR. There were strategic and tactical actions taken by the US that did embarass and alienate Muslims and their leadership at times, but only in order to prevent the USSR from gaining a toehold in the oil fields of the Middle-East, which was a STRATEGIC resource and one we COULDN'T afford to loosen up on or back off on for an instant.

I don't entirely agree with the whole "conspiracy" element within Islamic governments anywhere near to the degree that this author seems to, either. Most of the Middle-East is as mistrustful of their neighbors as they are the Western powers, if not more so in some cases. Furthermore, Islamic fundamentalism/extremism seems something of a reaction to a volatile mixture religious oppression, lack of economic/social well-being, xenophobia and poor education. That's a 60,000 ft. view of it, though as it seems to be a social disease that could almost classify as it's own dysfunction...

Point in case:

Odd that one doesn't see droves of suicide bombers or radicals coming out of UAE, Baharain, Qatar or any of the other more civilized and well-to-do societies in the Middle-East, no?

Odd that we haven't seen droves radicals spring up out of the desperately poor Christian, Shinto, Taoist or Buddhist societies, no?


Finally, I don't believe for one instant that the liberals that are vying for power in this election are "in cahoots" with Islamic extremists, directly or indirectly. They may be a babbling, incoherent mass of morons that subscribe to the appeasement and diplomacy thought of winning a war (something the US tried for 10 years through the UN on Iraq AND something that Neville Chamberlain did until the Nazi Party was well on the way to overrunning Europe), but one simply can't nail the ignorant and short-sighted as wholesale traitors or sympathizers of the Islamic extremist cause or to the cause of those countries that are overtly hostile to the US and it's interests.

I sincerely think that the liberals pumping for the Oval Office think and truly believe they would be doing the US and the world a service by backing out of Iraq, regardless of the state we would leave it in. The fact is that if we do, then Powell's BS linking of Al-Qaeda with Iraq becomes a self-fufilling prophecy as a destabilized nation is one that is ripe for terrorist elements to recruit and establish operations out of.


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I agree witha LOT that the second piece discusses, except where the author gets a touch mental and rants about US children being taught the Koran and the "call to prayer" being poured out of loudspeakers at City Halls...

He also seems to get on a roll about fundamentalism and is trying to paint Islam with a broad brush, which is no better than Muslims painting all Westerners as Infidels and zionists to the extent that it cripples any intellectual understanding they could reach with our culture.


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