Originally posted by Faboo:
Originally posted by DemonSVT:




Yes the GTP should win "bench racing" (as I have beaten them stock for stock way back when) but it would be close.

Generally true, depending more on SVT becuz of auto tranny on GTP





A decently launched GTP will beat a decently launched SVT stock for stock 100% of the time. These cars are tough to launch, same as CDW-27, even in auto form. Wheel spin is a problem with 280 lb/ft. However, the GTP's should only be ahead of a CSVT, stock for stock, by about half a car length up until about 60-70; after that time, the SVT should start pulling, and as for how bad it pulls: I'm not certain, but it shouldn't be too far (the GTP has 2.93:1 gearing, so top end acceleration is weird, but the power is there). Just to add, I wouldn't in the slightest say that the GTP has a top-end advantage, stock for stock, over a CSVT. GTP is governed, loses a lot of its quickness in 3rd, and just simply does not have the revs that the Duratec does. Ungoverned, its stock top spend is around 160mph, however (got to love short gearing and aerodynamic body for that consideration alone, at least).

Originally posted by Faboo:
Originally posted by DemonSVT:




Also the newer GTP's are heavier so they are not as quick as the older models.

They also have more power




Aye, and the Comp G's have throttle by wire, if I'm not mistaken, tapshift. They *should* be, on paper, slightly faster than the older GTP's, but I don't know enough about the weight difference to make that call. From what I've heard, though, they are faster .. ? Motor trend says the tap shifting G's should be faster than the old P's, as well. Ah well.. no worries (they're butt ugly, I wouldn't drive one ). They should have done a better job with making the production unit match the stylings of the GForce show car.

Originally posted by Faboo:
Originally posted by DemonSVT:



Also the GTP still runs into a wall once moving. From a roll advantage SVT.

Definitely, they fall flat if they start from around 40-60. They dont breathe that well...rockers and I/E will take care of that though




They fall flat because GTP's can't downshift stock to first and sometimes even second gear from 40, not because they don't breathe well (not sure if that was what you were trying to say). A mod called a "DHP" will remove the governed speed and, when combined with a simple "case learn," raise the car's shiftpoint to redline, and give the ability to downshift to 1st from 40mph. Doing this will break the tires free quite a bit, stock. Doing this modified results in tracks and smoke

Originally posted by Faboo:
Originally posted by DemonSVT:




Then once you consider roads have turns it becomes 100% advantage to the SVT verses the couch with the durable 30 year old Buick engine. (Go Buick! )





No arguments there in the handling department, though it should be noted that a suspension package (braces, sways, struts, lowered 1") will put the car just slightly ahead of a stock CSVT in handling ability. After that, the boat just can't turn

Tim

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