Originally posted by PDXSVT:
What a long winded way of saying you want a tax change that benefits your family and that you don't care if that change is NOT revenue neutral, and any tax you don't like is exhorbitant, and no one can use the money as well as your family, so we should subsidize them.

Reading comprehension obviously isn't a strong point of yours, nor is answering questions that I've posed, but going off on a litany of ill-founded, generalized and knee-jerk accusations you have mastered. I'll give you that.

Long-winded? Perhaps it is time to bring out the pop-up books and "Cliff Notes"...

In how many different languages need I say that money gained is most likely money invested to bring about GREATER gains, thereby bringing forth MORE taxes? Anyone that is moderately intelligent about money will INVEST those gains made, which ARE taxed. Again, what is so damn difficult to understand about this concept? I'm NOT for the elimination of taxes; I'm for the FAIR application of them, and by FAIR I mean not screwing those that planned, saved and invested so that future generations would have a leg up in life or by having the goverment take up to 90 cents on every dollar at the time of passing!

I'll go so far to say that the an estate tax elimination is tax beneficial over the long run, as anyone with half a damn brain will REINVEST the earnings that they gain. Few people with inheritance just simply SIT on what they get; they invest it or spend it, which is taxed. Many start small side ventures that provide additional work for people and additional taxes to the city, state and national coffers!

Yes, I am concerned that the property and wealth that my family worked hard as Hell for is put at risk due to an unfair tax that is aimed at those that are frugal, hard-working, successful and wise with their earnings and assets. I will never deny this. At the same time, I see small businesses and family-run farms/ranches get nailed to Hell and back unless they've gone through the contortions of setting up some serious estate plans over the years leading up to the death of the principles or owners.

Furthermore, it doesn't take a lot to hit the $2 million mark these days, especially if grandparents invested wisely and have property that they've held on to for 30-40 years. Hell, half-acre lots with a two-story house on it in many towns and cities are topping $400-500K, property values have shot up so much. Combine that with wise parents who have saved and invested wisely as well and you've got someone that can get hammered HARD. NOW combine that with your spouse's grandparents and parents legacy that they want to leave behind.

Things starting to dawn on you now? $2 million over the life time of two different sets of grandparents and parents is not out of line by any means...

Originally posted by PDXSVT:
Richard "Crook" Nixon thought he was better than the rest of us too.

Coming from a thinly-disguised fiscal leech who appears to lack even the most fundamental and basic understanding of capitalism, I'll take that comparison as a complement, though I would consider it a base insult from anyone else.

Originally posted by PDXSVT:
Your prior George Will thread responses speak for themselves. You were smugly willing to put your foot in your mouth. Spare us your newly revised damage-control versions of those postings.

Can't think of anything solid to present, so it's back to ripping off the coffin lids of discussions that were dead and buried, eh?

Why am I not surprised?

Again, I never heard of George Will before you mentioned him. I still haven't changed my opinion that his characterization of Iraq is unfounded and incorrect; I even provided mention of a counter article in the Wall Street Journal by Mark Bowden that shows things the way that I feel best represent the current insurrections. There is NO version. I've stayed rock-steady with what I said and continue to say on that topic.

I challenge you to prove otherwise. Please, go back to the original post and pull up where I've put up another "version".

Originally posted by PDXSVT:
Since you said you follow this area, you should be able to educate us: Aren't estates now federally taxable ONLY AFTER the first one or two million bucks pass tax free?

The exemption rate is at $1.5 million as of '04; it goes up until it's (hopefully) repealed in 2010.
Originally posted by PDXSVT:
So how much are your family's farms worth anyway, if your family has exposure? Are those farms worth $3 or $4 or $5 million?

None of your damn business.

Originally posted by PDXSVT:
And you gotta get the OTHER millions free too, before you're happy? You poor, picked on victim!!!

What is it about personal wealth that bothers you and pisses you off so much? If you don't have a trust-fund in your name or don't have an estate to benefit from when your loving elders pass on, take your vitrolic out on YOUR own parents or elders, not through a death tax on someone else who planned and saved for future generations. You sound like a child that since he can't have as good a sweater as some of his other classmates, he has to go over and push them in the mud or take a pair of scissors to them.

If you do have a sizeable "pot of gold" waiting for you and are still screaming for it to be taxed to Hell and back, you obviously think that the Government can manage your money better than you, which scares the s**t out of me and begs me to question your sanity.

Originally posted by PDXSVT:
Yeah, Bush is your kinda guy.



As Lenin most certainly is yours, to bring back mention of the Bolsheviks...

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