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Hey SVT2000SVT,

Why fill this thread with propaganda directly from georgewbush.com???

Look here for realistic info.

I thought I'd jump in and voice my opinion

Bush 04 ALL THE WAY..........

Supply Side works and I don't care how much we spend in Iraq, it was worth it.

Let the era of Conservativism flourish....

What a long winded way of saying you want a tax change that benefits your family and that you don't care if that change is NOT revenue neutral, and any tax you don't like is exhorbitant, and no one can use the money as well as your family, so we should subsidize them.

Richard "Crook" Nixon thought he was better than the rest of us too.

Your prior George Will thread responses speak for themselves. You were smugly willing to put your foot in your mouth. Spare us your newly revised damage-control versions of those postings.


Since you said you follow this area, you should be able to educate us: Aren't estates now federally taxable ONLY AFTER the first one or two million bucks pass tax free? So how much are your family's farms worth anyway, if your family has exposure? Are those farms worth $3 or $4 or $5 million? And you gotta get the OTHER millions free too, before you're happy? You poor, picked on victim!!!

Care to speculate how many CEGers have that kind of accumulated worth?

Yeah, Bush is your kinda guy.

I won't become a registered voter due to the fact that I don't want jury duty. If I had to vote, I'd vote for Kerry.

JaTo, I quoted George Will to show that you're on the neocon fringe AND that you shoot off your keyboard about topics on which you are half as aware as you pretend to be. But you getting caught making a fool of yourself was not enough to teach you to back off.

You'd once commented you'd picked up habits of heated debate with philosophy and divinity students and others, and you imply or out-and-out represent you're well-read on domestic policies, international relations, and now the tax code. There seems no limit to your knowledge about which you are self-compelled to preach on this site, nor by implication your opinion of yourself.

You cry about your family farms being threatened by your family's ONLY being able to pass on the FIRST $1.5 million free of federal estate taxes while not disclosing how many OTHER $$millions they hold and are at risk to have taxed or lose.

You make your political beliefs everybody's business by your political preaching and judge others with smug put downs. But then when your objectivity and financial bias is questioned, it's none of anyone's business. That pretty well establishes your bias and lack of objectivity for us.

Your professed philosophy SEEMS to be one in favor of a meritocracy: Personal responsibility, hard work, self-reliance. We greatly agree there. But now we see that philosophy you'd sell us requires that kids and grandkids of your parents and grandparents get a headstart of tax-free accumulated $$MILLIONS. Gee, that's fair to those of us that weren't born to your family.

(Was there a silver spoon in your mouth at birth, disguised as 400 acres of windblown sod and a huge John Deere contraption that now includes air conditioning and a CD player? Is your family like those which want the gub'ment to send a check when the crops fail, but EVERY OTHER gub'ment program is wasteful?)

So back on point, you're in like the top 4% telling the other 96% that what's best for you is best for them, and they are not allowed to disagree without having your haughty quotes cast at them. And you can't back off when I mock you as being a bad posterboy for the Bush cause. You're making my case for me.

How about you spend less time rationalizing your stand and preaching at us (you're on this board doing that ONLY a TINY bit) and more time learning the estate and gift tax code and all those things that the Kerrys and Kennedys know that your family of poor ol' dirt farmers are too busy pushing beeves to learn for themselves while you'd been off debating with the philosophers and divinityers. That would be doing your family a favor, since Bush is unlikely to win and end that estate tax for you. (Could your preaching be more important to you than your family's holdings?) (OMG, if we all dropped the political preaching, this would be a CAR site again!! I'm up for that. JVT, what did you expect would happen when you posted your poll? Do you dislike this being a car site?)

Since I struck a nerve JaTo, that's supposed to be a hint for you. You might pick the log out of your own eye. Churchill did not say that one, so maybe you're unfamiliar with it.

You know...after this thread, I am now MORE resentful of paying Federal taxes than before the thread. I pay my share and then some. I benifit primarily from the security I recieve from our military (and I did my fair share for them too). No handouts, no free medical care, no gimmees. And I am fortunate in that I have a good life and thank America for that..

BUT..when liberals start complaining that I get a tax reduction.. That I do not pay enough.. That it is "fuzzy math" that the more tax you pay, the more tax break you get. That our DEFENSE is costing too much BUT we are not paying enough in handouts, free this, free that to others..I start to get a bit annoyed.

I will keep paying and liberals will keep whinning...and GOD bless America. UhOHhh..the G word in the same sentance with America. I'm toast..