as a final note, Jato, I called the White House. Evidently they did know you were coming. Damn sneaky bastards, hiding everything from you. Dern shame, it really is. Let's all just agree to disagree and end this foolish post. Or maybe it's just me that's foolish. Ah well, good debate, I think we all got to vent, and I got to make an ass out of myself

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