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Originally posted by zgendron:

1) Well lets allow him to have a public life at his residency then. Oh wait, that's the White House!

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lying to the American people for two


Name one politican who hasn't. At least he lied about his personal life, and not... I dunno, say.... A WAR!

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and the fact that young teenagers now use Bill as an excuse to have oral sex for three




Sure, when caught they may have blamed Clinton, but that's something this country does great. Pass the buck and don't take any responsibility for ones actions (or their child's).




1) Oval office = WORK, rest of white house = home
2) How about..George Bush....what lie? That Sadam had WMD??...prove that Bush knew he did not..that's not what Tennat told him, what the UN told him, what Clinton told him. Being wrong (which may or may NOT be true) does not = deliberate lie. I'm curious, what do you percieve as a lie?
Liberals have been screeming this to anyone that will listen like they had concrete proof. Like it never happens to liberals. Clinton lied bold face, under oath, with irrefutable proof (rember the dress that jogged Bill's memory) that he lied...Give him all the accolades you want but this remains a FACT.
3) Pass the buck...you're right about that. But it is simply that I feel a public paid servant, especially one in such a visable position should set a little better example than to single handedly try to get the "Hummer" renamed the "Slick Willy" (pun intended again)..




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Thank you Dan, at least someone understood my point. This war and the sex scandal are two completely different things.

How does the war caused US deficit = gone to far on the war on terrorism. Saddamm was a [censored] up, sadistic SOB that needed to be removed from power. He laughed in the UN's face for 9 years and the [censored] EU/UN did nothing, which means the UN was pretty much useless in this case. The US backed up there resolution even though they wouldn't.

Clinton failed us after the first bombing of the WTC and as a result they kept coming and took both buildings down.


The terrorist are fighting us with bombs and gun fire. What are we supposed to do stand in the middle of the battlefield and yell at them to stop. Analogy of the day " That's like throw a paper football at someone who just hit you over the head with a brick" Give me a [censored] break you liberal panzies.

When Japan bombed Pearl Harbor did we only engage on the Pacific front? No, we engaged on both fronts because we knew that only defeating Japan wouldn't solve the problem. Germany also had to be dealt with. Did any US citizens object then, no, because everyone had balls and wasn't affraid to eliminate those who threatened our freedom. I think I just had a revelation.

The EU is mad because they aren't the world super power. The US is and that scares them. Not to mention they don't like owing us becuase we saved their asses on many occasions.

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Originally posted by Dan Nixon:
and the fact that young teenagers now use Bill as an excuse to have oral sex for three.




Whether you liked or disliked Clinton I think that has got to be the most ridiculous far-fecthed bunch of b.s. anyone has ever said in regards to him.


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Well andy, while I agree with some of the things you said, I definitely don't with others. First off, just because I am liberal on the topic of this war, by no means makes me a "panzy". I guess since we as Americans must protect our right to Freedom, let's just bomb the [censored] out of .. lets say South Korea first off, then China, and finish it off with Russia, as long as we are over there. That way we can REALLY become a world super power, and if everyone becomes American, the whole world will be happy. But wait, where will our cheap prices come from if there's no more child labor? And whose ass will we kick so we can boost our economy? hmm, lets just leave Europe open for attacks when we need them. I think that's the best solution to this problem. GO BUSH!


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Child labor?

Going to war to boost the US economy?

BOMBING S. Korea!? (an ally)

I'm too tired to address this kind of ignorance. You paint things with FAR too broad a brush; put some substance in and try this attack again. I don't care if you are liberal or conservative, bring some meat to the table instead of poorly thought-out sound bytes that the media throws out so that even a half-wit can have something to talk about at the water-cooler...

EDIT: If you think the Iraqi war has boosted the US economy or was for oil, check out gas prices at the pump and then correlate somewhat stagnant wages compared to rising consumer good prices.

Also show me a period of history where the Federal Reserve has kept it's rate at or below 1.75% when the US economy was "doing good".


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Originally posted by freakshow:
Originally posted by Dan Nixon:
and the fact that young teenagers now use Bill as an excuse to have oral sex for three.




Whether you liked or disliked Clinton I think that has got to be the most ridiculous far-fecthed bunch of b.s. anyone has ever said in regards to him.




You are so correct..
I guess I was just thinking of the far fetched senerio of a father, a "Clinton lov'in liberal" and his 15 year old, who gets caught performing oral sex(never happen in a million years)on some submoron who dropped his pants on the schoolbus (public proporty no less!)...and when said liberal (or what the heck..conservative)father says "WHAT the HELL was THAT",and she says..

"Well DAD, Bill Clinton did it to that fat chick whatsherface and lied about it and you've said as long as I can remember that he was the best President we ever had"...then the Clinton Lov'in liberal stands there with his mouth hanging open feeling like he just got kicked in the nuts...
(I point out here that the conservative would at least be able to respond.."I told you not to act like that scum bag"..but the Clinton lovi'n liberal would still have no words eminating from his gapping pie hole)

Basically...Bill's legendary "slick willy" deed could potentially lead to some ackward, special, "liberal moments". But, I'm sure this is just far fetched conservative BS..no teenager would be creative or spiteful to come up with something like this..

I'll had to recind that farfetched, BS reason..
But hey, that still leaves 2 other reasons


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Please, I meant N korea of course, and it was a very VERY flagrant post. But I have done alot of research on child labor, and it is very well proven fact that war boosts the economy, due to higher employment, expenses, and overall morale that our nation is doing something. I apologize for the flagrant post, but I very rarely watch TV, so believe me, none of this is media driven, or as someone else accused, stolen from a "John Kerry" speech. eh, oh well, I think everyone has made up there political mindset anyway, I'll stop "preaching" and just do my duty and vote when it comes time. - Chris


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Originally posted by PlatoSVT:
it is very well proven fact that war boosts the economy, due to higher employment, expenses, and overall morale that our nation is doing something.




I'd like to see some facts proving that this war has boosted our economy. Anyone else been laid off lately? Or try finding a job?

But yeah, the recession is over!


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Originally posted by PlatoSVT:

and it is very well proven fact that war boosts the economy, due to higher employment, expenses, and overall morale that our nation is doing




How can this be?
According to Kerry, the economy is in the toliet, everybody is unemployed, and morale is at an all time low on his own specially created "misery index"...

Oh wait, Kerry says we are really not at war..


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haha, ur post made me laugh nixon, but i highly doubt that anyone would tell their kid that Clinton was "the best president we ever had", nor would anyone in the U.S. stand by a president that firmly, and saying that everything he did was right. We all have our own opinions and that includes our Government. I guess I'm just sick of arguing about this, but that's one of the great rights we have as Americans(since we are the only ones on this continent).


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