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Just got my gas bill for last month....over $450.00


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Yep. I don't bother bitching about gas prices, in fact I laugh when SUV owning friends [censored] about them.

I have a certain amount of driving I have to do and until an affordable resonably high performance hydogen fuel cell vehicle is available, IC power it is.


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Originally posted by sigma:

As I said in another Forum, I'd be happy to pay a 25 cent tax on gasoline, as long as the money went straight into State Highway Fund coffers.





come to sunny CA, taxed at 29 cents/gallon (if not more in some areas)

funny thing is that if you drive to the Oregon or Nevada borders, gas prices are 30 cents cheaper just over the state line...


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I actually spent most of last month in CA -- down in Barstow; and the highways I drove on in CA were bigger, paved better, and under significant improvements as well.

Money well-spent? Arguably so. Compared to the roads we have in North Texas, definitely so.


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Originally posted by Toadster:
Originally posted by sigma:

As I said in another Forum, I'd be happy to pay a 25 cent tax on gasoline, as long as the money went straight into State Highway Fund coffers.





come to sunny CA, taxed at 29 cents/gallon (if not more in some areas)




In WI we just had an automatic gas tax increase (written in to state law) which jumped at the start of this month to bring us to 29.1 per gallon. That's on top of the inflated prices we pay for reformulated gas.


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I hate it when I hear people bitching about the gas prices. Are you aware that the US has the CHEAPEST gas prices in the world by a SIGNIFICANT margin?

We as a country have become WAY TO DEPENDENT on gasoline. We needed to start adjusting our lifestyles a long time ago. Instead we continue to build/buy SUVs that are not required to meet the same GPM ratings as cars because we classify them differently (BS).

As far as I'm concerned, not only should gas prices be significantly higher, but SUV owners should pay a premium or tax for owning an SUV.


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Are you aware that the US has the CHEAPEST gas prices in the world by a SIGNIFICANT margin?




I agree with you on the moaning about gas prices thing, but we do not have the most expensive gas prices in the world.

The most expensive out of the major industrialized nations maybe, but not the whole world.


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Originally posted by zgendron:
As far as I'm concerned, not only should gas prices be significantly higher, but SUV owners should pay a premium or tax for owning an SUV.




Isn't there already as gas-guzzler tax?


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I think Texas has something like 38 or 48 cents tax on gas, at least thats what I read on one of the gas pumps while I was down there. Well, if we vote Kerry into office and he actually stands by one of his convictions, we could expect a 50 cent a gallon or more tax increse. I don't see how that would be good for the American people? The taxes on gas need to be lowered, and they could be. I am willing to bet that the taxes collected on gas do not all go into the roadways. Maybe its time for a little government downsizing, and put the taxes collected from gas where it belongs.

There are a bunch of ways that we could get our gas prices lower, or at least to level out. The main one, in some states, would be to get the EPA mandated additives out of the gas. First of all I would like to know if these additives are really casuing the cars to be cleaner; that is cleaner enough to warrant the big jump in price to add them to the gas.

I know there are a bunch of doomsday forcasts for oil, like the $3.00 a gallon gas by 05, but I really don't believe them. People that come up with these studies are usually tied to hardcore environmentalist groups. I have heard on the radio, maybe last year, about a study done at a very liberal college in the northeast. The study came to a couple of conclusions such as the hole in the ozone layer was not man's fault exclusively, and that there is enough oil in the ground to support us for at least 2-300 years. Now, getting that oil out of the gound will become harder and harder, but with oil consumption on a steady rise, it will become more profitable for oil companies to develop ways of harvesting this oil; and we all know that the greedy oil companies love their profits...

Another solution to the U.S.'s oil woes (after all, it is the U.S.'s problems that we do care the most about right? )would be to allow drilling in formally protected areas, such as Alaska. I am not for clear cutting the forests to search for oil, but there are ways of getting the oil out of the ground that minimize harm to the land. To put an oil pump and accessories in the ground doesnt require all that much land to be cleared of trees. Also, the proposal on the table most recently would be to open up a whopping 10% of the protected land to oil drilling.

Also, someone stated how in the U.K. that gas was so expensive. Did you know that 78% of the price of gas in U.K. is because of their government tax? In U.K. prices, at the time of this article, gas was 86.1pence. 61.5pence of that was tax, or 71%. So, I don't care about these we should feel lucky cause so and so has it so much worse. Well, they bring it on themselves when the citizens ask for tons of social programs. Its a vicious cycle. You need more government help because you cant afford to live, so they give you more help and then raise taxes which makes it harder for more people to live, who then receive government help, who raise taxes, etc.


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