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Originally posted by Antonio:
Don't buy one.
At least be carefull. do lots of research. They are fun as hell, when it runs.
99' SVT #811 of 2760
Born on january, 12, 1999.
"This may have been his only shot at number one, but he just sucks on so many levels that I couldnā??t even let him win a contest of suckiness."
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lets look at the cool factor wagon-no way FSVT-kids car they have already made more in the 3 years so more people have them...CSVT..you can save a bit of money find a 50,000-80,000 mile car and have a car thats not on every block except if your on my block I now have 4.5 CSVT's.
Point of the story......none. Cars are cars they always have problems My ex girlfriend called me she got a 03 Fsvt trans came apart! she might go over the speed limit by 7 miles an hour every other month...no one drives it but her. (cars got 11,000 miles on it.)
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Originally posted by Nate S:
well there is the dash warpage thing, but that is on recall, so you can get that fixed for free. not sure which years it was though...i think 98.5 and up? not sure. not all cars in that timeframe have it either...
This is no longer free and it was primarily the 99 MY.
-- 1999 SVT #220 --
In retrospect, it was all downhill from here. RIP, CEG.
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You guys are starting to scare me away from the CSVT. Do they have a high comp ratio, is that why they require premium? I guess thats not a deal breaker though. Almost sounds like they are starting to fall apart? Im already and SVT owner, I have a 93 and an 02 Lightning and both have been trouble free so far. Would an extended warranty cover things like the dash pad, etc?
The Protege5 and ZX3 both have only 130hp (unless I get an 03-04 ZX3 with the 2.3l and 147 (?) hp) compared to the 200 in the CSVT. Plus the CSVT is more unique and less boy racer. I think the insurance is right about the same for the CSVT and Focus and the Mazda comes in just a bit higher, but I have to double check w/my agent.
But in reality do alot of the cars current problems come down to maintenance and driving histroy of the previous owners? Compared to just being "poorly" built? Arent these the same as the euro Mondeo, I thought the euro cars had good reliability ratings?
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Originally posted by lightngsvt:
You guys are starting to scare me away from the CSVT.
But in reality do alot of the cars current problems come down to maintenance and driving histroy of the previous owners? Compared to just being "poorly" built? Arent these the same as the euro Mondeo, I thought the euro cars had good reliability ratings?
I would have to say yes. I don't think of this car as built poorly by any means. My car has been great. Although its not an SVT, many of the parts are the same, if not similar. And I can promise that I've driven this car as hard as many SVT owners, and its held up well.
As you'll see throughout these boards, preventative maintenance is the key to this car, and it will easily see 200k with good maintenance schedules. My maintenance schedule has dropped off significantly this past year, and this car should still see 200k (only 15k to go!) Now with 4+ years into this car, I'm getting ready for a change. Definately considering an SVT in 4-6 months.
Nothing in automobiles is a guarantee, but with these boards it makes owning this car significantly cheaper. There is plenty of info and HOWTOs for anyone thats slightly mechanically inclined. Additionally, we have Bill Jenkins and Steve Mullins at a Ford dealership in Las Vegas that give us discounts on Ford parts. This board alone has saved me thousands of dollars in repairs. Again, its a choice only you can make, based on your maintenance committments and such.
- Zack
WANTED: T-Red HEATED Side Mirrors
FOR SALE: 4 14" Alum Alloys and Nearly New Avid H4s Tires w/ Center Caps
2000 T-Red SVT
1995 LX V6 MTX (RIP)
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Originally posted by zgendron:
Originally posted by Pigeon:
Premium gas is at least $0.10/gallon more money. The CSVT requires it and gets worse mileage than the other two cars you mention. Figure that over a year's worth and it adds up to a couple grand easy.
How do you figure?
Lets say you go 25,000 miles a year. That's way more than average. And lets be conservative and say that you get 20 mpg.
25000 miles/20mpg = 1250gallons * $0.10/gallon = $125/year. That's hardly thousands...
OK, so my math skills suck. Figure the Focus or P5 will get high 20s MPG, so that's still an additional nearly 1/3 more gas that a CSVT will use over a Focus or P5.
Switching gears, I don't mean to scare anyone off a CSVT. I think they are a great bargain, and like any car, treated reasonably well will give a long service life and lots of fun. Heck, look at my car. 142,2xx miles and I still run it to the rev limiter every day and have a blast with it, with minimal repairs over basic maintenance.
The bottom line for me is always get what makes you happy. Life's too short to worry about stuff like this.
Scott
Troll! '99 BMW 328i
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Common problems for the SVT Contour:
Water pump will fail (typically around 60K)
Wheel bearings will fail (around 90K)
Rear suspension will creak
Blower motor switch will fail
Audio head unit will quit loading CDs
Power antenna will quit retracting
Catalytic converter will fail (around 80K)
Fuel pump will fail
Water will accumulate in trunk because of plugged drain channels around the tail lights
Rear bumper will sag slightly creating an unsightly gap
Things that will last:
Front brake pads last a long time
Clutch will last a long time
Leather interior is pretty robust
Motor is fairly strong
It's still a very fun car to drive, even though there are more advanced (and quicker) sports sedans on the market today. To your advantage, depreciation is horrific on this car, so you can pick up one fairly cheaply. Expect lots of little things to go wrong, with nothing major except for being stranded in a remote place when the water pump fails.
Lee K
98 CSVT, silver (fun beater car)
03 Evo, red (scary fun car)
Last edited by Lee K; 04/06/04 05:15 PM.
Lee K
98 SVT Contour, silver (sold after 7 years and 100K miles)
03 Lancer Evolution, red
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