I see you are still up to your old ploy of NOT addressing any questions put forth to you or even trying to refute or defend any of the half-assed positions that I've torn to shreds...

Originally posted by PDXSVT:
OOPS. Now Sen. Lugar agrees we have a mess on our hands in Iraq and he's dissappointed the Bush administration does not really have a plan, and so needs extra time to develop one.

No one is questioning whether we have a mess in Iraq. Daily deaths of our troops is testament of that. It's still a war zone in places, for all intents an purposes, though a LOT of progress has been made.

The Bush administration executed one of the quickest and most overwhelming victories in military history last year; their follow-up and planning has been less than stellar, as I have mentioned in the past. Budgetary overruns have been enormous (mainly due to the fact that we didn't have civil engineers on the ground from '91 onwards checking Iraqi infrastructure out with a fine-tooth comb, DUH) and the situation has been a fluid one. People (especially you) are forgetting that rebuilding and reconstituting an ENTIRE country is a very iterative process; you would have to be an unforgiveable MORON to think this is like building a house, where you can run your pricing by a contractor or your local Lowe's or Home Depot and come up with a number that would probably be within 2-5% accurate.

The Marshall Plan wasn't executed down to the nearest estimated dollar amount, either, but our budgetary overruns have been rather obscene compared to the inital numbers put forth. I'll never deny that.

Originally posted by PDXSVT:
Lugar's perplexed Bush blundered in like an idiot. JaTo, I guess you know better than Lugar how Bush was so poised and wise to jump on an easy kill.

Given that he was one of the one's in favor of Bush enforcing UN 1441 to the letter , I'd say your full of s**t and he's simply venting what most everyone is: frustration that things haven't gone as smoothly as expected. No-one knew precisely what state we were going to find Iraq in. If so, I'd kotow to your point.

Originally posted by PDXSVT:
How long have you chaired the foreign relations committee now, JaTo?

As long as you've been able to make some coherent sense...

...or in other words, never.

By the way, how long have you been editing director for the Fisher-Price pop-up books on "History for the Mentally-Challenged?"

I know, it was a shameless joke at your expense. I seriously hope there will be other opportunities for this in later posts!

Originally posted by PDXSVT:
And what's Bush doing now to stabilize Africa, since the terrorists will go there to set up shop after that plan of Bush's which you admire so much turns the middle east all democractic and pro-western?



God, you've actually forgotten that they've ALREADY set up shop there and have been working out of North-Eastern Africa for quite some time??? Seems someone is forgetting that Al-Qaeda has been in Africa since the early '90s; the run-in that our Army Rangers had with the rather nasty rabble in Mogadishu, Somaila was supposedly one of the first Al-Qaeda engagements with US troops.

Just because you aren't reading or hearing about Somalia, Sudan, Yemen and some other places in Africa doesn't mean that we don't have folks sniffing around those parts...

Don't think that for a MINUTE.

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