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#916095 04/02/04 02:26 AM
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Just replace all of the Duratecs with Zetecs....


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#916096 04/02/04 03:58 AM
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According to one of the guys across the pond in the UK it would cost approximately 40 British Pounds to fill a Mondeo tank. The current exchange rate would make that over $70.00 US.

We still got it easy.


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Man this got off topic real quick! Those really interested in gas prices in every city:

http://www.gasbuddy.com/

I can't wait to start modding a fuel cell car....

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Well, by my house, i have seen $1.75 to $1.95 For standard unleaded. Now if I drive a few miles down a road, its $1.69 (different county )


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Originally posted by MarkO:

Wind powered cars ?? Come on. The social, cultural and infrastructure changes needed to move society to this lifestyle and this type of thinking takes a generation. The oil could be gone by then.




I don't think so. I'd be happy to do my daily commute in a 1 or 2 seater small electric car. Less parking problems, less smog, less traffic jams. I don't need 200HP for my ride to/from work.
The technology is available, it just needs some incentive from cities/govt's.

Of course I'd happily use my gasoline powered vehicle for trips to the West Coast or even for a Walmart run, but most problems cars cause to us are inside cities.
Many people have beater cars for commuting. I think many of them would use some alternative if it was available.


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Believe it or not, there is already an incentive for alternative fuel vehicles in the form of a tax break.

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******* NEWS FLASH *********

Europe in general has like a 400%++ gat tax that pay for the plublic transportation.

The US has about a 30%-40% gas tax. I think a better way to look at gas price is to see what a barrel of oil costs.

Also not all oil is the same.. There are some wells by me that have been pumping for 60+ years, because it heavy waxy oil that's great for plastic and Pensoil (sp?). The USA has a LOT of heavy oil but not much light oil or "sweet" oil that is used for gasoline. Heavy oil can be turned into light oil..with extra cost.

The USA also has over 1/2 of the worlds coal. PA alone has enough coal to provide for all the countries power demands for 200-300 years (at current levels). New tech is out to strip the pollutants out of the coal before it's burned.

But the real question is $$$$. It still cost's more to mine coal than it does to pump oil.


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Originally posted by midcoastme:
According to one of the guys across the pond in the UK it would cost approximately 40 British Pounds to fill a Mondeo tank. The current exchange rate would make that over $70.00 US.

We still got it easy.




Bet you can't drive across the US on one tank like he can.

Fact of the matter is, take the Europe vs. US gas prices with a grain of salt. While it may take you 5 miles to get to the grocery store here, it will take someone in Europe 5 minutes by foot.

You may drive 20 miles to work here, where they drive 5.

Public transportation is excellent throughout Europe, even in small cities and places out in the boonies, so cars are not a necessity like they are here.

And you've got a LOT more gas friendly cars over the pond.

On the other side, there's Venezuela, where gas is $.14 .

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Quote:

PA alone has enough coal to provide for all the countries power demands for 200-300 years (at current levels).




Coal is definently an energy source that most people don't know we are so dependent on. Over 50% of our electricity comes from Coal. But this statistic isn't even close to correct.

The US alone consumes some 1.2 billion tons of a coal a year. PA has less than 4 Billion tons of accessible Clean Coal reserves -- meaning it wouldn't sustain the US by itself for even 3 years, let alone the entire world for 2-300.

Now, there is enough Coal throughout the entire country to sustain ourselves electricity-wise for a very long time. As long as we don't care if we use High-Sulfur Coal we can generate enough power to last 100 years.

The problem then becomes, if Oil runs out we have lots of coal, but not enough coal-fired power plants to generate enough electricity. And they take forever to build, so you've got to plan ahead -- this is why the Bush Administration has quietly been looking into a new Nuclear power program since we haven't built one of those in decades.




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I have seen it as high as 2.20 for 93 here in the Chicagoland area.


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