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Looks like later will work better for me now, as I have to perform some unexpected trans work
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The dual hone svt manifold flows 175 cfm - and if the accounts are true, then Demon's flows around 185-190. 10-15 cfm is not even close to being a significant air flow increase, and you will never see and HP increase from it - and for the cost......??? I really doubt this is worth the time and money. Can anyone logically argue otherwise?
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Well, hard to say for sure but if the UIM is the flow restricting component of induction (ie, we know the heads, t.body, and prob MAF meter and K&N style filters are better flow..not sure about LIM butterflies)...and assuming an adequte exhaust (headers, Y, catback) then a 5% CFM increase in air would be expcted to gain, with proper fuel adjustment (say custom burned chip), gain 5% more power...about 10 HP...
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the greatest gains would obviously be seen on FI layouts. . .where every CFM counts!
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Originally posted by Derk2000: Just wondering - if this GB occurs after SZ and the track season, are people still going to be interested?
Derk, Seeing the number of orders and since there's always the possiblity of some kind of delay (turnaround time), later would be better so that guys aren't pressed for time for events such as SZ 04.
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Originally posted by Dan Nixon: gain 5% more power...about 10 HP...
For 5% to equal 10hp, that would be crank hp estimates. That would probably show up as 7-8hp at the wheels (assuming Dan's estimates are correct).
Pete - we'll see how things play out. We may not even get a choice as to BSZ or ASZ (that would be "Before Spring Zing" and "After Spring Zing").
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Originally posted by Derk2000: Originally posted by Dan Nixon: gain 5% more power...about 10 HP...
For 5% to equal 10hp, that would be crank hp estimates. That would probably show up as 7-8hp at the wheels (assuming Dan's estimates are correct).
Pete - we'll see how things play out. We may not even get a choice as to BSZ or ASZ (that would be "Before Spring Zing" and "After Spring Zing").
expect it to be even more gains on a 3L with headwork
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I sent out an email with these questions: 1) There is a fellow in Ireland wondering if he could somehow hop onto group buy pricing but have his manifold honed at the Extrude Hone facility in Ireland. 2) What is the cfm goal you're shooting for again? I didn't write it down. 3) Will pricing be different if the manifold is non-honed (normal 2.5L V6), single honed (98 SVTs), dual honed (99-00 SVTs), etc? 4) With this new technique you spoke of, is the goal "maximum flow?" Maximum flow is what is wanted by the people interested in the group buy. and got these answers: Derek, Hello The answer to your questions are. 1. The Ireland person will have to send his part to Irwin, Pa. sorry 2. We are going to try to reach 225 cfm. Hopefully 3. The cost will be the same for all intakes. 4. Yes the goal is maxium air flow. I thought I asked about the 3L manifolds, but I guess I didn't. Sorry about that.  I hope this answers some preliminary questions.
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How soon? I can send mine out in April/May i think.
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Originally posted by SVT ST PETE: Derk, Seeing the number of orders and since there's always the possiblity of some kind of delay (turnaround time), later would be better so that guys aren't pressed for time for events such as SZ 04.
Pete, when we get some more info from EH, maybe we (the interested) should reevaluate who's still in and when would work best for most of us (can't please 'em all). BTW, are you in?
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