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Word to the wise canamSVT didn't get everything out and some of the "steel packing" was sucking to the engine and destroyed it.
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If you see what comes out of the exhaust manifolds when you gut them, you won't want to do it "on-car"! I know I wouldn't dream of it, even though the rear bank is a nightmare to take off  Get some swivel joints and a good selection of extension lengths. Extra hands help out a lot, and an air ratchet will make it much easier IMO.
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Originally posted by Swazo:
If you see what comes out of the exhaust manifolds when you gut them, you won't want to do it "on-car"! I know I wouldn't dream of it, even though the rear bank is a nightmare to take off Get some swivel joints and a good selection of extension lengths. Extra hands help out a lot, and an air ratchet will make it much easier IMO.
This is only my opinion, and is not based on any hard facts - but the work required to remove the manifolds is way more than the payoff you get from gutting them. Heck, I did mine in like 2 hours on the car and still feel it was wasted effort.
97 Contour SE MTX
K&N 3530, UR UDP, 19# Injectors, mystery mod, FMS wires, Fordchip.com chip, SVT: TB, Flywheel, clutch, exhaust
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Originally posted by ScottK:
Originally posted by Swazo:
If you see what comes out of the exhaust manifolds when you gut them, you won't want to do it "on-car"! I know I wouldn't dream of it, even though the rear bank is a nightmare to take off Get some swivel joints and a good selection of extension lengths. Extra hands help out a lot, and an air ratchet will make it much easier IMO.
This is only my opinion, and is not based on any hard facts - but the work required to remove the manifolds is way more than the payoff you get from gutting them. Heck, I did mine in like 2 hours on the car and still feel it was wasted effort.
I think his concern was the risk of damaging the engine with particles of catalyst material. From that perspective he has a valid point. Its just a matter of how much work is too much when it comes to risking your engine.
Must be that jumbly-wumbly thing happening again.
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Originally posted by TourDeForce:
Originally posted by ScottK:
Originally posted by Swazo:
If you see what comes out of the exhaust manifolds when you gut them, you won't want to do it "on-car"! I know I wouldn't dream of it, even though the rear bank is a nightmare to take off Get some swivel joints and a good selection of extension lengths. Extra hands help out a lot, and an air ratchet will make it much easier IMO.
This is only my opinion, and is not based on any hard facts - but the work required to remove the manifolds is way more than the payoff you get from gutting them. Heck, I did mine in like 2 hours on the car and still feel it was wasted effort.
I think his concern was the risk of damaging the engine with particles of catalyst material. From that perspective he has a valid point. Its just a matter of how much work is too much when it comes to risking your engine.
I did mine on the car before everyone started pointing how bad an idea it is. I know it is a bad idea now, but I got lucky and had no issues.
My point was that I don't think the benefit is worth the effort, even if you take the easy way out and do it on the car.
97 Contour SE MTX
K&N 3530, UR UDP, 19# Injectors, mystery mod, FMS wires, Fordchip.com chip, SVT: TB, Flywheel, clutch, exhaust
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That's part of why I think they need to be removed. I'd really be scared that some debris might remain from not fully gutting them.
Gutting them is only part of the modifications you need to do to make it a worth while mod IMO. When you see what the exhaust ports of the heads have to dump into, it's easy to see what needs to be done. That is the other half of this mod.
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I would just take the extra time and take the manifolds off.
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well i just gutted mine on the car i also took the torch to the y pipe cut out the center where the pipes come together and just finished welding it all back together and then ground it perfectly smooth wish i had a digi so u could all see how beautiful it came out i can't wait to drive it too bad i know it still wont be enough  oh well its only a free mod anyway
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