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Originally posted by RT and his SE:
Of course it's acceptable in the eyes of the NHL. You act like this is the first time it's happened, well it's not. It's been going on for decades and will continue until the NHL makes tougher rules to rid the sport of fighting. But they are NOT going to do that! This was brewing for weeks between these two teams and if the NHL cared to nip it in the bud they could have.
Unless you outlaw fighting all together some will toe the line, some will step over and some will skate past it at a full sprint. None of this breaks new ground.
I never said rid the sport of fighting. I said rid the sport of wreckless, cheap, excessive violence (face pile-driving and stick wacking).
Here's what the NHL needs to do:
1. Retract the instigator rule.
2. Discipline players/coachs/teams who step over the line more severely.
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Originally posted by csc99svt:
in 83-84 when the oilers won a cup, gretzky has score something like 205 points on the season....ONE FRIGGIN SEASON!!!!!!!!!! this is what mtl was talking about....where did stuff like that go? do we even have a 100 point scorer this year? sheesh....
That would be due to better goaltending and Jaques lemair's(sp??) neutral zone trap that has worked for the devils since the early 90's. If the teams like the 80's oilers were playing today, I don't think they would have much of a chance. Now days it is more of a team thing than an individual
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Originally posted by Antiramie:
Originally posted by RT and his SE:
Of course it's acceptable in the eyes of the NHL. You act like this is the first time it's happened, well it's not. It's been going on for decades and will continue until the NHL makes tougher rules to rid the sport of fighting. But they are NOT going to do that! This was brewing for weeks between these two teams and if the NHL cared to nip it in the bud they could have.
Unless you outlaw fighting all together some will toe the line, some will step over and some will skate past it at a full sprint. None of this breaks new ground.
I never said rid the sport of fighting. I said rid the sport of wreckless, cheap, excessive violence (face pile-driving and stick wacking).
Here's what the NHL needs to do:
1. Retract the instigator rule.
2. Discipline players/coachs/teams who step over the line more severely.
What you and I are saying is not that different. Back in 1975 a guy by the name of Henry Boucha from the North Stars was attacked by Dave Forbes of the Bruins. Jabbed in the eye with the butt end of the stick and then beaten when he fell to the ice. Ended his career at 24 years old. Forbes was suspended and prosecuted in criminal court. I watched this game, I was outraged! There was a huge call for change in the NHL. Well here we are 29 years later and it happened again. Why? Because the NHL has done very little to clean up it's act in that 29 year span. Why? Simple. Money! Why do you think this has not been resolved before? People pay to watch this kind of stuff whether we agree or not otherwise the NHL would have outlawed all of it a long time ago.
I'm on your side on this one! I love the speed of hockey when all this clutch and grab crap isn't going on. If you have a chance watch the Russians from the 70's. They were soooo good! Because it was all about puck movement for them.
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Being someone who has played hockey for most of my life (12 of 17 years) I can understand where most of you are comming from and for the most part I agree with a lot of it.
For me the NHL used to be the best hockey ever. Now I love college hockey more than anything and have been watching attending games for the past 6 years. The college game is all about playing hockey. Sure there are scuffles here and there but for the most part its clean hockey. No one is playing for money or contracts or any of that. As far as attendence goes the team I have been going to see (Yale University) has sold out something like 50 straight home games witch dosent include another 500 in standing room only. I suggest that if you havent been to or seen a college hockey game in a while that you get to one.
As far as penalties and slashing and what not it goes on at any level. As far back as I can remember in any game I have played in there has been some sort of hooking, slashing, ect. that has gone uncalled, and thats what is exprected. I totally agree that games should just be called when fights are just breaking out and the score is totally meaningless. I have been involved in a game with a similar situation. The score was out of had (something like 8-1) and fights were happening for the last 8 minutets or so. With about 4 minuets left the officials smartened up and ended the game.
As for the above it's all my .02$. Not trying to start any more debate than there already is but just throwing in my opinion.
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There is one thing we have to remember is that, when you watch a game on t.v. you don't see what happens in the corner or what is going on between 2 players just before somebody gets slashed. Why because the camera follows the puck.
Just bare with me for a second, and no i'm not saying that this is what happend last week...let's say the puck went in a corner and there was a "melee" then a player gets away with the puck, the camera will follow that player in particular, it will not stay zoomed on the rest of the players left in the corner. There is alot of fights, scuffles or whatever that got initiated in that corner, that we did not see on tv. MY point is that we don't always see everything that goes on.
And i'm with RT and Antiramie on this this the NHL needs to do severly punish these sensless act of violence. Something in the lines of banned from the ligue for life and then charge with attempt of manslaughter in a court of law
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