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Originally posted by PackRat:

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Originally posted by RT and his SE:

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Sorry about your situation at the hospital but 18 mph over is not going to get you a warning especially when your young.
Good luck with the other stuff though!

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I once got a visual warning for 75 in a 55 while driving for Pepsi in a rental truck (DOT cop flashed his lights and made a "slow down" gesture.)

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Even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while! Plus your old!

Originally posted by Kremithefrog:

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would have bout same chance of killing someone at 65 as I would at 83.

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Originally posted by Horse:

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Im not going to touch this incident with a ten foot pole. All I am going to say is since none of you work in law enforcement you really dont have a clue what you are talking about and subsequently have no legs to stand on.

Officers do not and cannot just enter any home at will. They must have permission granted them by a legal entity (read judge). Officers in most areas it is true have a certain amount of tickets to issue on a daily/weekly/monthly basis, but honestly - gimme a break. Do any of you realize how much shiitty driving they ignore?? Kermit- you going 18 over is well lets face it - breaking the law. You complain about it, well if you dont think the speed limit is adequet for the road you were traveling on - then take it up with the municipality you were in.

I will not speculate the "motives" of the officer for pulling you over except to say that even if you were going 1mph over technically he could have issued you a citation. As for your whole "blinded me with his spot light" - oh cry me a river- I know how bright they are - the cops do that to me as a joke when Im leaving dispatch - they arnt THAT hard to not look into!! Not only does this show some obvious stupidity on your part - (its not that hard to look at your toes) but your argument is about as asinine as I have heard since- wait - I got off work this morning at about 1:30.

You think that a lot doesnt go on where you live - well to me that shows that the police in your area are doing their job. I can assure you that a LOT more goes on that you will ever realize unless you go on a ride-along or something similar. Ill give you an example - last night in my city while I am at work we had simultaniously 3 domestic assaults (all three ended up in the hospital), an older gentleman died in his home, two foot chases with minors fleeing with drugs involved, and several other calls of high importance.
We then get a bunch of calls from one young man who thinks that the party going on in his apt complex is too loud and wants an officer to go break it up. LOW PRIORITY! - yet he called every 10 min and got more and more angry. He finally asked to speak with a sarge to lodge a citizen complaint. (Every person has a right to do this BTW) while I am not party to the end of this call I can assure you that everytime you make a complaint it is recorded and goes on the officers record. You calling to compain about this officer is like the ACLU sueing you over your speeding for a violation of their civil rights- ASININE!

I realize you dont have a lot of respect for police officers, but remember this before you criticise too harshly - not only are police officers some of the worst paying jobs in america, they also have one of the most life threatening job descriptions. While you may not have threatened the officers life during your traffic aprehension I am willing to bet that the officer was in danger of losing life or limb at least once during that week as a minimum. Wake up and realize that without these guys you would not have the rights you do today. Realize that they do more for you than you will ever know and all the thanks they get is you promising to never help them again. They are hated because they wear a badge, but like you and me thay are people just trying to get home to their loved ones each day.

If you cant tell it really bothers me that people have your type of attitude, you think that everything is guarenteed to you and that you have "you rights" - well having lived in other countries where you dont have all these rights let me tell you personally to OWN UP TO WHAT YOU DID AND ACCEPT FULL AND COMPLETE RESPONSABILITY FOR YOUR ACTIONS!!!!

Try living in a country where just because you look different the "cops" can shoot you and leave you in the street to rot and no ones will intervene for fear of dying as well.

How about instead of bitching and moaning you go out and try to improve your comunity instead of pulling down its peace officers for your personal amusment!

ps- if you see an officer down and you dont stop to fight under the good-samaritan law you are an accesory and can be charged with the assault as well. If the officer dies you could go to jail for manslaughter. think about that before you say you wont help him.

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I'm not complaining about being ticketed, READ. I'm complaining about how he acted,etc. You wouldn't understand though cuz you're a cop, and I think it takes a special type of person to be a cop (not necessarily wanting to help people,,, more like wanting to have a position of authority).

It shows more obvious stupidity on your part and the officers part. Hmm, let's see, he was behind me and I needed to pull out on to a road,,, got to look behind me to make sure no cars are coming... Or I guess I should have just pulled out blindly.

I work with cops, I know a lot goes on, but not as much as the previous person I was replying to made it seem.

You don't realize anything. I actually have plenty of respect for police, again I work for them. I don't have respect for this particular officer and how he acted.

I am accepting my responsibility, but guess what I can still have an opinion about it and can still do something about it.

You know NOTHING about me,, I guess starting a neighborhood watch isn't trying to improve the community. Though I'm sure this cop giving me a ticket and being an ahole while doing really helps the community.

Also state laws determine the speed on the road I was on, I think the speed limit is good for most conditions, but it could be variable and be higher with less traffic and dry conditions, but like I can really get that to happen by myself.


And I'm sure there's a law that says you have to fight. I know how many officers like to interpret the law in their own way, but I guarantee there isn't a law that says that. It may say do whatever is possible, like call more cops or something... nothing requires you to put your own self at that much risk... though you being an officer of the law, I guess I'm wrong and you're right and people have to fight if you say they do.

I wish cops would just get off their high horses,,, but that's why they are cops, so they can boss people around,etc. Like I said, I know and work with plenty of cops, I know how they are.

Originally posted by 99blacksesport:

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First off, GO HORSE!!! Finally someone on here realizes what cops do is very important to your life everyday, and they deserve respect for what they do.

Originally posted by Kremithefrog:

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would have bout same chance of killing someone at 65 as I would at 83.

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WRONG!
How about this proven fact? At night, for every 5mph over 55 you drive, your require an extra 3 seconds to respond to an emergency! What does this mean? Driving 55mph, a child/deer/car pulls out. It takes you about 3 seconds to 1) see whats going on
2) decide you need to slow down
3) move your foot from the gas to the brake
4) get the car slowed down enough or stopped to do
something about the emergency at hand

Now we are drving 83, lets round that to 85... Now the child/deer/car pulls out this time. We are 20mph over the 65mph limit, so that equals about 12-15 seconds to do all of the above steps! Do you really think that going 85 is the same as 65??? Now with all these problems you have with your eyes, since you were damn near impared by a spotlight, I would say that your time would be alot higher than 15 seconds. Try this next time your driving at night on an empty road, before you get in the car, tell your passanger to give you an emergency to react to going 65.

Now, your reaction time will be slightly faster, because your brain is hearing the signal to stop, not your eyes seeing and having to interpret you needing to stop. You will see what I am talking about.

I had the lovely experiance of getting to know what happens when a car slams into the back of an 18 wheeler at a stop light at 65mph. Passanger decapatated by the round bar under the bumper, driver had his seat break before he was decapatated, so he just had the bar lodged in his mouth. All he could do was gurgle blood for a short time before he died. Grow up and quit speeding like that, cause its not only your life that you affect.

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Originally posted by Kremithefrog:

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I'm not complaining about being ticketed, READ. I'm complaining about how he acted,etc. You wouldn't understand though cuz you're a cop, and I think it takes a special type of person to be a cop (not necessarily wanting to help people,,, more like wanting to have a position of authority).

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Originally posted by Kremithefrog:

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Well if there was any car with no lights, a deer, or a child on this highway at 11:30 at night, they deserve to be hit. You realize that europe even with super highways have lower fatality rates? Mainly because of better driver training,, and I've been through training. Sure you can't do a lot to avoid stuff at higher speeds, but it's not like there is no road where these speeds are legal. And these people that drive on these roads are pretty safe... If roads were really about being safe, speed limits would be 30mph or less everywhere and it would take weeks to get across the country,,, though safety isn't always why speed limits are made or enforced.

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Originally posted by 99blacksesport:

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Originally posted by Kremithefrog:

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I'm not complaining about being ticketed, READ. I'm complaining about how he acted,etc. You wouldn't understand though cuz you're a cop, and I think it takes a special type of person to be a cop (not necessarily wanting to help people,,, more like wanting to have a position of authority).

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Yeah, this about proves it, your an idiot.

Originally posted by Kremithefrog:

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It shows more obvious stupidity on your part and the officers part. Hmm, let's see, he was behind me and I needed to pull out on to a road,,, got to look behind me to make sure no cars are coming... Or I guess I should have just pulled out blindly.

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Jesus Christ!!! Do you think that he might have accidently left the damn light on!!!??? Quit the cops are a-holes bull that your spouting around here, its so old!!! Yes, everyone hates the cops, and your so much cooler cause you hate them more.

Originally posted by Kremithefrog:

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You don't realize anything. I actually have plenty of respect for police, again I work for them. I don't have respect for this particular officer and how he acted.

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You have no beef with this officer other than he gave you what you deserved! You have no respect for him because he left his damn light on?! Please tell me in 2 sentences or less, what this cop did to you to warrant a complaint filed against him??

Originally posted by Kremithefrog:

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I am accepting my responsibility, but guess what I can still have an opinion about it and can still do something about it.

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No your not accepting it, you came on here looking for a way to get the ticket dropped. You started with saying that he cant sit on the side of the road with his lights off clocking you, which they can do.

Originally posted by Kremithefrog:

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You know NOTHING about me,, I guess starting a neighborhood watch isn't trying to improve the community. Though I'm sure this cop giving me a ticket and being an ahole while doing really helps the community.

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Hey, that is a good thing your doing with that, they really do work. However, for it to be the most effective, you need to coordinate with the police, the same police that you have beef with.

Originally posted by Kremithefrog:

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Also state laws determine the speed on the road I was on, I think the speed limit is good for most conditions, but it could be variable and be higher with less traffic and dry conditions, but like I can really get that to happen by myself.

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Okay, so we have this variable speed limit, now how do we determine when the extra speed is reasonable? I will bet my car on the fact that this "law" would have a nice little phrase in there, "Officer's discretion." Montana tried this, with their "autobahn" you could indeed get a ticket on these roads, it was up to the officer to determine if your speed was reasonable and necessary.

Originally posted by Kremithefrog:

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I wish cops would just get off their high horses,,, but that's why they are cops, so they can boss people around,etc. Like I said, I know and work with plenty of cops, I know how they are.

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I wish whiney teenagers would get off their anti-authority horses. I never joined the reserves for the ability to boss people around, and neither do 99% of cops. Of course there is always an exception, but thats what those cops are, the exception.

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I never said I wasn't an idiot, but you're one too, so .


Dude, READ READ READ. I did not come on here looking for anything, I came on here just to rant and blow off steam. I clearly stated that. I said I HEARD the cop couldn't do that, but he turned his lights on, then hit the blue lights anyways, showing I realized that didn't matter.

I am in contact with the police, but not the ONE I have beef with.

Yeah, the variable speed wouldn't work here as they would still write the laws to be messed up. It works in Germany and Italy becuase they do it right. No speed limit when little traffic, out of cities, and good weather. The electronic signs set a speed limit when these conditions are met. It isn't left up to a single officer.

I don't like the fact that I drove home seeing spots. I could care less whether you think it's fine or not. Obviously the officer felt it was fine. Ooo and I guess I just forgot I was speeding and he can forget his light is on and it's all OK, whatever. He pulled me over PRESUMABLY for speeding becuase it's unsafe, well he ended up making the remainder of my drive home even more unsafe. But it's OK, because he's a cop and that's his job to do that and not think.

And if you really think 99% of cops don't join the force for the reason to have authority,, you are sadly mistaken. I know it may not even be 50% but it's still more than 99%.

Originally posted by RT and his SE:

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I can't believe you're still bitching about this! You broke the law and got caught. If the big bad police man shined his light in your eyes and that's the worst thing that happens to you this month you're way ahead of the game. So hike up your skirt and deal with it!

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I'm not bitching about it. I'm replying to people's post. I actually just posted to blow off steam and then everyone jumped on me. But you can see it however you want. And it's definitely not the worst thing that happened to me this month or even week, read my posts and you'll see that. I am dealing with it... so deal with me dealing with it.

Originally posted by 99blacksesport:

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First off, GO HORSE!!! Finally someone on here realizes what cops do is very important to your life everyday, and they deserve respect for what they do.

Originally posted by Kremithefrog:

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would have bout same chance of killing someone at 65 as I would at 83.

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WRONG!
How about this proven fact? At night, for every 5mph over 55 you drive, your require an extra 3 seconds to respond to an emergency! What does this mean? Driving 55mph, a child/deer/car pulls out. It takes you about 3 seconds to 1) see whats going on
2) decide you need to slow down
3) move your foot from the gas to the brake
4) get the car slowed down enough or stopped to do
something about the emergency at hand

Now we are drving 83, lets round that to 85... Now the child/deer/car pulls out this time. We are 20mph over the 65mph limit, so that equals about 12-15 seconds to do all of the above steps! Do you really think that going 85 is the same as 65??? Now with all these problems you have with your eyes, since you were damn near impared by a spotlight, I would say that your time would be alot higher than 15 seconds. Try this next time your driving at night on an empty road, before you get in the car, tell your passanger to give you an emergency to react to going 65.

Now, your reaction time will be slightly faster, because your brain is hearing the signal to stop, not your eyes seeing and having to interpret you needing to stop. You will see what I am talking about.

I had the lovely experiance of getting to know what happens when a car slams into the back of an 18 wheeler at a stop light at 65mph. Passanger decapatated by the round bar under the bumper, driver had his seat break before he was decapatated, so he just had the bar lodged in his mouth. All he could do was gurgle blood for a short time before he died. Grow up and quit speeding like that, cause its not only your life that you affect.

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Damn... Sounds like the class you majored was in Drivers Education