Originally posted by JVT:
Originally posted by JaTo:

It's now very obvious Iraq didn't represent an immediate WMD or nuclear threat. Am I to understand that we shouldn't have gone in until we were 100% positive that our troops were to be gassed and nuked? If so, I now have a new definition of stupidity to refer to...



Thank you.




It is also VERY obvious that several nuclear threats are being defused as a DIRECT result of the Iraq invasion..

1) Pakistan. AQ Khan gives up his nuclear secrets...allows tracing of centrifuge tech to Manila. Details shipments to Iran and Libya revealed (see below). Now we have Pakistan troops and tribal leaders helping in the hunt for Bin Laden. Remember when they were afraid to go to the region?

2) Libya...ship "BBC China" from Manila to Libya with centrifuges intercepted. Set stage for nuclear dismantling and most recently 55 TONs of mustard gas turned over. Quedafi now has "seen the light"

3) Iran..compelled to allow IAEC inspectors in. Evidence of greater nuclear proliferation than expected has worried investigators, pressure to sanction Iran insuing..

4) N. Korea...after shotting off mouth BIG TIME pre Iraq..now comming to table in 6 way talks that WE wanted (remember the Dems screaming that we should agree to 1 on 1 talks back in April??). Now clear it is a nukes for cash/food blackmail sceem all along (similar to the one they sucessfully employed against Clinton). I'm sure we will give them something but THIS time around we will REQUIRE varification.

Now, are there any of you out there that can honastly say that this is not related to the Iraq invasion? These are 4 problems that brewed for the last DECADE, refractory to solution, now all at once breaking open within MONTHS of our Iraq invasion... Why, because they respect strength/power in the middle east, not lawyering and cheap talk. The captured Al Queda even told us that Clintons/UN limp wristed responses to the WTC 1, Embassy bombings, USS Cole, etc. egged them on. There is a new sheriff in town and THIS is the case that Bush needs to put together for the folks..not going to hear this on ABC/NBC/CNN..And this is what Bush is refering to when he stated we were going to reshape the face of the Middle East, one of the STATED reasons for going to Iraq and by far the MOST IMPORTANT reason.

Thats all for now..





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